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Seytra

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2005, 07:06:01 am »
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Originally posted by MaidenIndigo
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Originally posted by Seytra
The orignal page\'s description bears absolutely no resemblance to the current one except for the name.
In fact, the Klyros on that site didn\'t even have wings, and also their mentality (in fact, everything) was utterly different from the current description. AFAICS, the Klyros page was the only one that was completely redone for the MMORPG PS.

Ah, my apologies, then.  Truthfully I didn\'t even look at the page, I just copied the location of the link from the old Races page.

As for being \"fast in air,\" I had assumed that the elements mentioned were refering to elemental types of magic, not elements in nature.

Hmm, this interpretation didn\'t strike me once, I must say, especially because this would have been designated as \"azure, blue and brown ways\", thus it must refer to the actual elements in nature. In fact, I think they\'d be just about average on magic, with a good shift of preference towards the azure and blue ways. I don\'t see any reason for a particular emphasis on the brown way, though. That\'d be Kran\'s domain if they weren\'t so un-magic. In fact, I think Klyros should be less able in the brown way than the other races (except Nolthrir) since they don\'t have that much contact with it.
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Originally posted by MaidenIndigo
I have two Kylros characters and found that their stats have posed no problems thus far.  I have not attempted to fight anything stronger than a Rogue, so I\'m probably not seeing the whole picture.

This is AFAICS due to the fact that the stats themselves and the entire skill system are not fully implemented yet. There are still things missing, and there are bugs and things being changed. However, before the HP bug crept up, it would make a noticable difference in HP and damage if you had 40 strength or 100. Also, the effect of the char creation options is mostly a work in progress, blurring the distinction even further.
It isn\'t much of a difference at the time being, but it surely will be in the future once most things are well-defined and implemented.
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Originally posted by MaidenIndigo
Flight, however, would be a ridiculously huge advantage compared to the other races.  That would mean that they would not need Pterosaurs at all (unless they could only carry a certain number of items while in flight or another similar limitation).

I wholeheartedly agree. That\'s why I feel the following is necessary to rectify this:
1) Both flight and gliding depend on a \"flight\" skill, which needs to be trained just as any other.
2) Flight and, to a much lesser extent, gliding, would also depend on endurance.
3) an untrained Klyros would be able to glide from the tower to the plaza, or for some RL minutes, and to fly from the floor to the roof of a normal house (two - three storeys approx.).
4) a well-trained Klyros, however, should be able to glide for a great distance and also be able to fly maybe up one entire level (upwards, i.e., from level 2 to level 1) in one go.
5) For both flight and gliding, the weight being carried should have an even more severe effect than it has on running. Gliding would be easier, but should be impacted twice as much as running, and flight quadruple times or something along these lines.
6) any clothing that is not made for being worn in flight would also increase stamina drain, more than the normal weight of it would
7) weight, improper clothing and equipped items would reduce gliding distance

This would make unlimited flight or even unlimited gliding a mere hypothetical option, and effectively limit it to about an hour of gliding and ten minutes of flight (or even less) for a well-trained Klyros while still not making it useless and balancing it with other disadvantages.
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And as for the race description, I was always under the impression that they would not fly.  By \"fly for a short time,\" I figured this meant gliding.

Hmm, I took it as what\'s written, especially since it\'s mentioned more than once and seeing that Yliakum is underground, presenting not many opportunities to glide.
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All things in the description pointed to their wings being useless.

The \"appear to be\" to me means \"they don\'t look like it, but they do work\", especially since the remaining description reads as \"flight\" to me.
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This is going a bit off topic, but given the placement of their wings on the race model, they seem too small in proportion to their bodies to do much of anything.

I fully agree. They need to be at least twice the current size IMO.