join the war dragons

[Cha0s]

I\'ve read that. And I think the guild idea has a nice base. Just change every instance of the word \"dragon\" to something else that exists in Planeshift (while I like pink fluffy bunnies, it may deflate the guild\'s reputation somewhat ).

The problem is not that \"there are no dragons in PS, so even the name can\'t be used.\" The problem is that dragons have pre-existing connotations in real life that you CAN\'T get rid. Trying to create a guild with that name attaches all those connotations to the guild regardless of what else you try to do. So, whether you want to or not, you end up giving your guild a meaning that is interpreted out of character (OOC), not in character as it should be.

Here\'s another example of the same issue:
I create a guild called the Riflemen. We\'re a guild that sneaks around stealing things from defenseless townfolk (alternate definition of \"rifle\"). It\'s a workable background, no? A newbie gets on and sees a guild member and he says, \"So you guys fight with guns? Cool! Can I join your guild?\"

You see what the issue is? Rifle = gun. Dragon = huge flying thing that breathes fire. You can\'t change that, no matter how creative you are; OOC stuff will always interfere.

[Teegress]

Here is an apples and oranges debate.

Dragons, by definition, are mythological creatures no matter which life you are in.  (apples)
Rifles, on the other hand, are tangible items in real life and of course, do not exist in Plane Shift. (oranges)
And your silly \"pink fluffy bunnies\" do not exist in PS either. So you make a weak argument.
The Dragon Guild is here to stay, ACCEPT IT!

[Keyaz]

but with an attitude liek that you might not be, so calm down

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Cha0s
Here\'s another example of the same issue:
I create a guild called the Riflemen. We\'re a guild that sneaks around stealing things from defenseless townfolk (alternate definition of \"rifle\"). It\'s a workable background, no? A newbie gets on and sees a guild member and he says, \"So you guys fight with guns? Cool! Can I join your guild?\"

You see what the issue is? Rifle = gun. Dragon = huge flying thing that breathes fire. You can\'t change that, no matter how creative you are; OOC stuff will always interfere.

See, explaining what the problem actually IS can be useful.  But a lot of words have connotations outside of Planeshift.  Take the guild Blitzers for example, I asked them where that came from and it meant something in some language and came from Final Fantasy.  It has connotations outside of Planeshift, would you say it would have to be changed as well?

Originally posted by Demarthl
but with an attitude liek that you might not be, so calm down

Nice unwarranted threat.