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Kythag

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My attempt to try to stay in this game...
« on: December 10, 2005, 02:54:27 am »
When the GMs imposed a ban on weapons, they refused to roleplay against Kythag.  Therefore, he is running around with a pickaxe killing rogue\'s with one hand tied behind him.

My issue is this:  If we are wanted to roleplay, the GMs should be roleplaying as well when they come into the game possessing characters like that!  The Kythag character naturally believed that he was told no big bad stick ever.  If it had been roleplayed properly, I wouldn\'t have issue with this.

I also have suggestions to help me with this:

1) Someone come in game and roleplay this through.

2) Someone official tell me it is ok to not roleplay my character anymore.

This game was turning out to be very unique.  Where is the uniqueness if the game officials break the very atmosphere they say they are trying to create?  I know I am going to catch all kinds of negative comments over this, but I do not care.  This is how I feel whether you believe it to be right or not.  I am making this post(turning back on my word to never post again) because I really like this game.  It is the only RPG with any RP at all.  This is my attempt at saving its uniqueness, freshness, and liveliness from degrading into \"just another online game\".

With great sadness and dread.

Kythag
« Last Edit: December 10, 2005, 02:55:55 am by Kythag »
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2005, 02:59:56 am »
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When the GMs imposed a ban on weapons, they refused to roleplay against Kythag.


I\'m afraid you have me a little befuddled here. When did the GMs impose a ban on weapons, and how was this reported to you? I have heard no such thing...

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My issue is this:  If we are wanted to roleplay, the GMs should be roleplaying as well when they come into the game possessing characters like that!


Possessing characters how, again? The GMs are completely OOC unless they are directly involved in a roleplaying event/scenario, in which case they make the distinction clear.

This situation is too confusing to make sense of as is, so I would suggest providing a bit more detail on what happened, and who was involved (there\'s always a chance someone was pretending to be a GM).
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2005, 03:08:03 am »
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The GMs are completely OOC unless they are directly involved in a roleplaying event/scenario, in which case they make the distinction clear


I have to disagree. GMs may not roleplay, but they should not ruin the RP and fun of others. Kythag breaks no rules, he just roleplays a retard that gets smarter as time progresses. He is not OOC, and the GMs who keep telling him to stop OOC-ly are just making things worse. Kythag is a good roleplayer, and the GMs just see him as an idiot. I\'ve roleplayed with him, and you know that in some animes, theres always the big, dumb person who can understand basic speach, but cannot speak very clearly. That is this person, and they cannot eliminate him like a common newbie saying, \"lol hw do i ply dis game lolz\" >_>
« Last Edit: December 10, 2005, 03:08:18 am by Suno_Regin »

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I thought it was a knwon thing among all
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2005, 03:08:53 am »
Somene possessed Harnquist spouting an official ban on weapons in the plaza.  When Kythag said, Kythag word bad.\", nothing was said.  However, it was shouted over and over again that weapons would be confiscated from players not complying.  I had to break character to comply.

A simple,\"Kythag no bads bads no big bad stick\" would\'ve saved me grief.  However, if it had been roleplayed, \"Kythag no big bad stick.\" I would\'ve never wielded a weapon again and laughed about Kythag killing Rogue\'s one handed(he is carrying a pickaxe in shield hand).

My issue is with us(the players) being told this is a true roleplaying community, but the rule is broken by the game\'s officials(I can only assume that a GM possessed Harnquist).  Go in game and ask around, Harnquist was spouting (basically) no weapons in plaza.  My only beef was no one acknowledging the need to walk up to Kythag and deal with him.  Even if it had been mean-spirited and the weapons then confiscated, I would not have had an issue with this.  That is my point.  I hope I have clarified things, I am very upset right now.

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2005, 03:17:09 am »
This was not a GM ban on weapons in the plaza. This was all in-character and there would have been no OOC repercussions for refusing to comply, though some people IC might make Kythag a bit miserable. I can tell you this because I was the RM responsible. And I did not ignore you. I said \"Harnquist mimes to Kythag to put away his weapons.\" And then I said, \"Do you understand that, eh?\" (of course Harnquist knew you wouldn\'t understand the words at all, but it was role-play).

Now that I think about it, I think the issue was that /say does not have a long enough range. I had some other issues with hearing as well. It\'d be better if it reached a bit further, I think.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2005, 03:17:14 am »
Finally, someone who shares my point of view! GMs honestly break every rule they make. Let me use Pirakika/Zayek/Keyaz (or whoever the hell he is) for example: No dueling in the plaza. Next comes,

\"X has been killed by Zayek\"

Then,

\"Now, would someone like to fight me using my axes?\"

Then,

\"You know Zayek, you just broke your own rule...\"

Then,

\"Shut up Mitaki.\"

BAM! Muted. >_>

What I\'m saying is, they think that when players do something they say is against the rules (that they made themselves, BTW), they get punished. When they break that rule, they think it\'s alright. Now, like you said, they put an official ban on players with weapons inhand. So now, the next day you\'ll see a GM with shiny platinum Galkards fit snuggly in their hands.

EDIT: Didn\'t see your post, Cha0s, but I\'m not changing what I said.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2005, 03:18:23 am by Suno_Regin »

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2005, 03:19:40 am »
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GMs may not roleplay, but they should not ruin the RP and fun of others.


Definitely, Suno. GMs are around to protect RP, not to interfere with legitimate character-to-character interaction. But your second post was pure, absolute nonsense, and I hope you can stand back and see that.

However, Kythag, I think that this was just a misunderstanding. Harnquist would never address players, but characters - and actions of possessed NPCs are always roleplayed, no matter what. There is no official ban on weapons - Harnquist, an individual living in Hydlaa and Yliakum, was addressing the people.

Are we okay now? :}
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2005, 03:19:46 am »
Suno: I don\'t even play a character, so it\'s hard for me to break my own rules. This was not even an official rule. Just an in-character thing. So relax, and role-play.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2005, 03:21:53 am »
I am NOT here to bash GMs.  I am here becasue I am very confused(or was).  Cha0s is right, the situation was very chaotic(no pun intended).  I could easily have missed something, and it is obvious that I made some mistakes here as well.  PLease close this thread before it becomes a GM bash.  I did not mean to start one.  My issue is resolved.

Kythag

Edit:  Yes, Karyuu I am fine now, lol.  I am VERY reactionary sometimes.  I will try to control it better here.  It is one reason why I had decided not to post anymore(good call huh?)
« Last Edit: December 10, 2005, 03:24:34 am by Kythag »
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2005, 03:26:16 am »
Hopefully the confusion was a one-time thing, and further NPC awakenings will make more sense :) The big thing in this case indeed seems to have been the /say range. Well, sorry for the nerves stretched and pinched, and onward to future fun!
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