graphics card

[Myrthe]

Karyuu...are you taling about this one? http://www.pcclub.com/product_system_details.cfm?itemno=EN-NE9
there are like 10 different hard drive choices: 160GB, 200GB, 250GB, 74GB 10K RPM 8MB, 400GB, 500GB, or 150GB 10K RPM 16MB. i also already have the CD to install Windows XP on any comp. Should i save $65 and get it with no op system?

just one simple question: should i or should i not buy a PCI card for my existing computer?

[Kymizer]

built my own computer, went through new egg... www.newegg.com

2.2Ghz Anthon 64 CPU
Very nice case, keeps everything cool
Geforce 7600 GT
1GB RAM
Asus A8n Sli Deluxe motherboard
basic 550 Watt powersupply


basicly everything...for $650

plus 3day shipping and its cheap!

oh..and sound card $50

so yeah... 700...which...i found better than the Dell, for the same price, and i can upgrade whenever i want, and my case is HUGE the way i like it..

[Myrthe]

pretty much, if you guys could walk me through this page: http://www.pcclub.com/systems_configurator.cfm?type=Desktop&bomid=EN-NE9 that would be alsum. plus read my post to Kary above ^^.

but mostly, since this comp is only a year and a half old, i think ill buy this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814241020 and wait til this one gets obsolete or screws up. PS works fine for me right now im just disappionted that i have to use adaptive distance and there are still big holes in oja road. but its only $40 after mail-in rebate. can someone who understands the specs check them and see if its ok?

thanks for everything guys!

[neko kyouran]

"can someone who understands the specs check them and see if its ok?"

This is just my opinoin, but factoring in price, plus specs, I'd say that it is a decent buy.

[willelmo]

pretty much, if you guys could walk me through this page: http://www.pcclub.com/systems_configurator.cfm?type=Desktop&bomid=EN-NE9 that would be alsum. plus read my post to Kary above ^^.

but mostly, since this comp is only a year and a half old, i think ill buy this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814241020 and wait til this one gets obsolete or screws up. PS works fine for me right now im just disappionted that i have to use adaptive distance and there are still big holes in oja road. but its only $40 after mail-in rebate. can someone who understands the specs check them and see if its ok?

thanks for everything guys!

Look, if your current computer is only year and a half old, it almost certainly have to have AGP slot, only if your computer is very very small in size that may be left out. Have you looked inside to verify that there is only PCI slots?

Here is picture of AGP slot, it is that brown thing (there is only one of those in computer):
http://www.slo-tech.com/testi/plate01/agp_slot.jpg

Here is PCI express slot (PCIe), again it is that brown, almost black, white slots are normal/old PCI slots
http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/11/11/intel/intel_slots.jpg
I really don't believe that R9250 is going to do any improvement for performance for your machine either, it really is weak card nowdays.
Do you have information what is your current gfx card? You should see this from Display properties -> Settings tab-> Advanced button -> Adapter tab

From here you can get software called sisoft sandra
http://www.sisoftware.net/index.html?dir=&location=downandbuy&langx=en&a=
Lite version is what you wan't to download, that tool can list your hardware, also it tells lot of detail like if you have AGP slot or not etc.

About Windows XP, if it comes with computer it is OEM licensed and it is not allowed to install that to other computer. Only retail Windows XP can be installed to new computer, of course it is needed to be removed from old.

[Myrthe]

yeah, im sure its an old PCI slot because its white. any card will help my graphics because, at the moment, the slot is empty.

thanks neko. but are you sure that clock speed is ok? only 240MHz. and the controller (not a card, mind you) has Dirext X 9. this has direct X 8. but everything else is way better than what i have and, for 40 bucks? why not?

thanks you guys for all your help.

[neko kyouran]

If you do decide to get it, do as you would do with any type of hardware you buy: Go to the manufacturer's website and download the latest driver set for the card.  If it works with 8, it should work with 9, just make sure things get updated. 

Oh and will, my mobo has 2 agp slots.    Also, from the way Myrthe is talking, it seems they don't have any vid card, save the on board one, in which case this one would be an improvement.

Now as you said (Myrthe) the clock speed might be a bit slow, but unfortunately, going with PCI, thats about as good as you can get, same way with the Pipelines, which is a major factor in speed as well.  Since I have some free time, I'll look around abit and see what I can find.

If you're set on an ATI....
1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103167
2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102533
3) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814241020

One of those would probably be your best bet, keep in mind the first two are cooled by heatsink only, so if you got either of those two, you would want to make sure that there is proper airflow through the case and by the card, as in no other cards close to it, or the card may run a bit hot. 

Now on the NVidia Side....
1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143059
2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133007

If I were you, I'd put my money on #1 for Nvidia.  Faster clock speed, same pipes, better cooling system, same memerory clock speed, about the same price.   And as I said earlier, from hands on experience, I've found Nvida to do a better job at driversupport as well.  Ultimately, the end decision is yours.

Hope this helps.

Edit: oh, and as much as it wouldn't surprise me that your motherboard doesn't have an AGP slot on it, if you havent looked, see or post what your motherboard is and we can do some research to see if it has one, or you can do it yourself, as, as it has been stated previously, going with an AGP type card would allow you to expand your options quite a bit.

[derwoodly]

Myrthe, In addtion to your computer specs, It would be helpfull to list the name of the game you are trying to play.

However, if your willing to experiment, get the 60 dollar PCI card, plug it in and see if it works.  At the very least you will get an education PC graphic cards.

[Myrthe]

hmmm. dangit neko. lol i already ordered the one i posted: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814241020

no offense, but the one you recoomended was only a little bit better for just $20 bucks more. but since i already ordered the one above, ill stick with it. thanks guys for your help.

plz let this one die