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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2006, 11:28:25 am »
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infact i believe it was mathematically expressed that earth has to be in the center of the universe.
Copernicus presented his theory of Heliocentrism 500 years ago, though the church later forced him to renounce his theory.



Actually, you can have 2 points of view on this problem... a personal point of view and a universal point of view.
From a personal point of view, everything around you is perceived trough your senses, trough you. In .this case, it is not the earth who is the center of the universe but it is you who are the center of the universe as the only starting analytical point.
In the universal point of view… we are talking about a presumptive infinite amount of space, and in this case, any given point in an infinite system can be considered a center. Of course, there is still the structure point of view, that would make suns center of a solar system, a certain point in space center of a galaxy, etc. But no point in space can be considered as being the absolute center of a infinite universe, so our humble planet can be as good as any.
It is only a mater of reference systems. As dear Einstein said “The same event, observed from 2 different reference systems might occur differently for each observer depending on the reference system they are in. [common known as the baseball ball theory]”

About the topic at hand, time travel is mathematically impossible, or at least, backward time travel would be. We said the world travel… that means movement… that calls for the basic law of movement where T=dD/dS [T= time, D= distance, S= speed]. To have a negative time value we would have to have either a negative speed value or a negative distance value. Of course, there is a theory about the time line, being possible to bend until a certain point intersects another but the estimations for the amount of energy required or the implications of that would be rather impossible at the time being. Another theory would be that about bending the space factor but that is useless in our case since it would not result in a negative space coefficient nor negative speed.

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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #106 on: October 10, 2006, 02:07:26 am »
wow... thats a huge amount of writing to simply say "people effect people" :-X


In effect, but it's also to say that things we hold as objective absolute truths are in fact malleable, subjective, and the result of compromise.
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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #107 on: October 10, 2006, 11:13:04 am »
wow... thats a huge amount of writing to simply say "people effect people" :-X


In effect, but it's also to say that things we hold as objective absolute truths are in fact malleable, subjective, and the result of compromise.

Here is an absolute truth i hold, please show me that it's malleable :D :

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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #108 on: October 10, 2006, 02:03:36 pm »
Interactionists don't deny that there are objective physical realities, they just say that our understandings of those physical realities are subjective.
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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #109 on: October 13, 2006, 04:03:40 am »
I don't think I'll like the second movie though...this plot doesn't seem to fold out like the first one's did. It just seems like he randomly got the power to go back in time, but Evan's was some sort of bloodline trait.

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Re: The Butterfly Effect
« Reply #110 on: October 15, 2006, 02:32:59 pm »
I don't think I'll like the second movie though...this plot doesn't seem to fold out like the first one's did. It just seems like he randomly got the power to go back in time, but Evan's was some sort of bloodline trait.
i agree, i just watched it and it does nothing to deserve the name "butterfly effect". the first movie made at least some sense in its own logic and it made one care about the characters, but this one is just badly written. absolutely not worth watching it...  :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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