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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2007, 11:55:44 pm »
Please...Correct me if I'm wrong...

Who build Hydlaa? The Xacha people?
Do they came from outside Yliakum, through the Stone Labirynths or so?

Can be possible, that the Xacha people knew the day and night because they lived at the surface, where is the sun and moon and the stars?

I think the low moment of the Crystal is called night because reminds that hour, and the high bright is called day.
The Bronze Doors are named because their structure: bronze and wood...
is the bronze an unique metal of Yliakum or was known at the surface too?

I think some things can't be questionated... Day is day (with sun or without it... think about North Pole, 9 month of darkness but there is a "day" and a "night")

greetings!

EDIT: Ok, I went a little off topic, but I think sunrise and dawn are ok to express the moment because... my explanation, he
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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2007, 12:01:06 am »
Ylians I think actually. Either that or the Xacha really ripped off their building style.

Edit: http://www.planeshift.it/humans.html <- Look at the Ylian art.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2007, 12:06:13 am by Parallo »
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2007, 12:10:25 am »
It was both by the look of it. The temple and libary style buildings, Xacha and the houses being Yilan.

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and the winch looks Xacha to me

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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2007, 12:14:06 am »
And... extracted from the settings page in the planeshift site
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[...]
Named the Azure Sun by those races that still remember the surface
[...]

Measuring Time
The Crystal draws its light from the surface and thus Yliakum is subjected to times of "day" and "night". However, even at night, it is not completely dark. The level of the lake, which rises and falls in an extremely consistent manner, measures hours.
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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2007, 12:17:36 am »
It was both by the look of it. The temple and libary style buildings, Xacha and the houses being Yilan.

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and the winch looks Xacha to me

I'm pretty sure it says in the description of, or when you ask someone about, the Tempe that it was built by Xacha. It's not that we're talking about though.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2007, 12:40:58 am »
I think both oprions has been stated very clearly.
1) Lets make new names as the Crystal doesn't rise or fall
2) Lets keep words like rise and fall, because most races came from surface and they got usd to this wording.
3) A hybryd options. It is called in both maners as a sun which is actually fallind and rising was seen last time a couple centuries ago and some people started calling it in more native way, which stayed.

Tell about all three a setting dev and then learn answer. ;) Don't forget to tell us ;P



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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2007, 12:59:54 am »
Er...actually, I was not trying to coin any terms. I was just defining the areas that would be named.

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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2007, 01:45:45 am »
oh, i forgot about your, UtM. Yeah, it does brighten and dimm, but our real sun does it too. Only with our sun it is because of angle and with Azure sun it is literally. But i don't think there is any reason to bad rising and falling because of that. In case you were thinking about it. Frankly, I'm not exactly sure what you meant and if you were speaking to me ;P



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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2007, 02:15:24 am »
But the settings say that its the races that remember the above ground that call it the azure sun. Everyone else calls it the crystal so it seems fair enough that they would come up with diffenrent terms for its phases.
To get things straight, I was referring to the section that Eagel quoted: "Named the Azure Sun by those races that still remember the surface, it emits a radiation that (...)". To me this sounds more like "these people gave it that name", not like "only those who know the old stories call it that". Especially not if taking into account that Hydlaa is referred to as "City of the azure sun". Not undisputable, but seems most likely to me.
It is possible that the different races have different expressions for it in their native languages (more or less interesting to historians only, though). Lemur and Kran would certainly have needed some name for it. Not sure how scientific that would have been, though. Xacha would be most likely to change the name, but seeing that the other races combined  outnumber them, it's not sure their interpretation caught on. All in all, as Nikodemus says, this question would need a definition by the settings team, though it's not of high priority to me, as I am fairly sure I can still use dusk and dawn, etc., as explained.

Edit: @UtM: ah, I misunderstood you, then. Sorry for the confusion!
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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2007, 05:38:03 pm »
Well, I have given it a little thought and came up with this based on the history of this land.

"Hail to thee at Talad in his rising". Sunrise

Sunrise being Talad the form of creation and the beginning of that the rising luminance of the crystal. Also, being male and symbolically solar in nature. Also, Talad being the servant of Vodùl and as his biding could be to brings forth the morning rays of light.

"Hail to thee at the midcourse of Vodùl". Noon
"Hail to thee at Vodùl in his setting". Dusk

Noon and Dusk being Vodùl as god of future events and Master of both Talad and Laanx. More or less to be the overseer of the waking hours for most. This also is to incur balance between Laanx and Talad to separate the day and night.

"Hail to thee at Laanx in her rising". Midnight

Midnight being Laanx also the form of creation but that of nightly workings and the Masquerade of the night as she wonders the stone Labyrinth. Also, the symbology of female being lunar in origin; as well as once being consort of Vodùl. He leaving in the dusk to be with Laanx.

This would of course be symbolic to most Yliakumites or whatever you prefer to call the peoples of this world. This is more as to pay reverence to the gods that started Yliakum. The Crystal symbolizing all the gods in their manifestation. Also, it is a nice way to teach new people the history of Yliakum IC.
So, IC if someone asks the time you could say, "It is at Talad in his rising" or "It is at the setting of Vodùl" ect.
Just my two cents worth anyhow. Just thought I would be more constructive in providing a possible solution than over debating the point of what is This or That. Also, I know most people may not know of Vodùl nonetheless some do and may use these saying as a greeting of the day.
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Re: sunrise?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2007, 05:41:53 pm »
Vodúl is pretty much unknown of by the common man as far as I know.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(