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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2007, 12:02:35 am »
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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2007, 05:56:37 pm »
Doesn't it say under races on the webpage that "The land of Yliakum is a melting pot of races with different culture and origin, mixed and integrated by living together over the centuries. Racial suspicion and hostility are completely unknown, given that the distances between cities are not great, and trades are a central part of Yliakum society." Now it does say that the racial traditions are quite strong but if the language of each race was used centuries ago and the citizens of Yliakum are in a "melting pot" I believe some common language would emerge so that these races can all communicate for reasons of trade, adventure,  and for the sheer fact that the cities are quite close to one another. After all, dialects of a language can develop but overtime there will be commonalities that cannot be ignored as peices of each language are melded together to form an entirely new Yliakum language that everyone can understand. So, who is to say that the language spoken "in game" by the characters is not some language other than english, it is simply translated to english by the client for ease of use by the players. I live in the U.S. and we speak english - If I traveled to Austrailia they speak english - some differences among the terms but I can figure out what they are saying - if I travel to britain they speak a slight variation on it as well but I can again understand what they are saying. Now, why certain groups cannot speak their native tongue to one another I see no issue with, but when speaking to others they must use the "Yliakum language" which so happens to be english that the players use, this is no different than the characters speaking so that one another can understand. Just a thought on this.
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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2007, 07:04:51 pm »
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Once again it is a great point! Do you know how long it takes to learn a language. It doesn't happen over night I promise. And to be able to learn a language that is not even developed it by far nothing to get angry over. Lets just calm down and take a breath. Thanks!
That's exactly my opinion! I think it's wonderful to have some official languages for the different races. I takes a long time to invent a whole language, and probably you'll never be able to really speak those languages, because there are simply not enough words. Let's take Tolkien's Elvish as an example: you can translate quite a lot of things, but there still are at least as many things you can't.
On the other hand those languages add another realistic aspect to Yliakum, and besides you can for example use them to create names. Thus you can create meaningful names that not everybody understands at first, and they fit the race of your character.

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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2007, 07:17:26 pm »
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and besides you can for example use them to create names. Thus you can create meaningful names that not everybody understands at first, and they fit the race of your character.

Thats an interesting point, we arnt allowed to use phrases to make our character names, now would it be alright if the phrase was in an in game language? e.g 'Sharpclaw' for an enkindukai, in enkindukai tongue of course.

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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2007, 07:28:01 pm »
That would result in something like Hokahetakh (h'oka=claw / hetakh=sword). Remember the guild "H'oka de Ojaveda".

I think using of "real" names or names with sense is cause of copyright violations as main argument. Building names from Enkidukai which are making sense would be ok ...
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Re: Languages of the different races?
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2007, 12:08:16 pm »
You *could* make it so races speak the same language (Elves can fully understand, same with Humans) but the languages *can* be learnt, like a language skill.

I'm just throwing ideas out there.