Using ooc knowlege ingame

[bilbous]

You could do this in a preface:

* bilbous turns to Mornox "your shoe is untied."

I believe this would be more acceptable than:
"Mornox , your shoe is untied."
as it does not imply that your character knows the other characters name. It is a little more awkward but being proper is not about convenience.

[Under the moon]

This is never going to stop, so get used to it.

My complaint would not be IC usage of OOC info about new items becoming availible. It would be the total -lack- of IC info about the new items soon to be sold in the first place. Merchants -know- what they have ordered, and know when they will start selling such a thing. What kind of idiot merchant would keep this info a secret until the day he started selling said items?

No, he would be hollering "Coming soon, Silverweave daggers and shortswords! Order expected within the week! Save up your tria for these very nice, discount blades!"

Even if it was kept secret, characters would still have ways to find out.

As for the 'name tag' thing, I don't see what the huge issue is, or what the massive whining is about. You are maybe online 5% of your character's life. It is bad RP to assume your character vanishes during that time. You are -not- and unknown person in the game, I do not care who you are. People, NPCs, and others will know your name, and it would be a simple manner to find that out. If I want to know a player's name without the bother of asking, I just assume my character learned it while offline.

I do not OOC ask someone how they know my name. For one thing, it puts them in an awkward place, and will offten make them feel bad, or start an OOC bitching match. For another, it is a waste of time. Lastly, if it does not affect the RP, what the hell does it really matter? Get a grip and stop bitching about it. If they say your name, and should not know it, and it MATTERS, STAY IN CHARACTER and ask them how they know. Then, ACCEPT THEIR ANSWER, even if it is not the most realistic, or best of roleplay. You could suggest to them in tell that they would be better to ask a person's name, but do not -demand- that they do so. It is their choice.

Edit* And claiming to have a perminant name other than the one you choose in Creation is just plain lame in most cases.

[zanzibar]

As for the 'name tag' thing, I don't see what the huge issue is, or what the massive whining is about. You are maybe online 5% of your character's life. It is bad RP to assume your character vanishes during that time. You are -not- and unknown person in the game, I do not care who you are. People, NPCs, and others will know your name, and it would be a simple manner to find that out. If I want to know a player's name without the bother of asking, I just assume my character learned it while offline.

Are you using a RP-bot of some sort?

[Feline Prince]

As for the 'name tag' thing, I don't see what the huge issue is, or what the massive whining is about. You are maybe online 5% of your character's life. It is bad RP to assume your character vanishes during that time. You are -not- and unknown person in the game, I do not care who you are. People, NPCs, and others will know your name, and it would be a simple manner to find that out. If I want to know a player's name without the bother of asking, I just assume my character learned it while offline.

I do not OOC ask someone how they know my name. For one thing, it puts them in an awkward place, and will offten make them feel bad, or start an OOC bitching match. For another, it is a waste of time. Lastly, if it does not affect the RP, what the hell does it really matter? Get a grip and stop bitching about it. If they say your name, and should not know it, and it MATTERS, STAY IN CHARACTER and ask them how they know. Then, ACCEPT THEIR ANSWER, even if it is not the most realistic, or best of roleplay. You could suggest to them in tell that they would be better to ask a person's name, but do not -demand- that they do so. It is their choice.

Edit* And claiming to have a perminant name other than the one you choose in Creation is just plain lame in most cases.

You should make the name you want people to know you by the one hovering over your head. That much I can agree with. But sometimes when playing less savoury characters it pays for people not to know your name and you might get a little defensive that they claim to when it can damage your RP if people can put a 'face' to your name so to speak.

[Illyria]

do not OOC ask someone how they know my name. For one thing, it puts them in an awkward place, and will offten make them feel bad, or start an OOC bitching match. For another, it is a waste of time. Lastly, if it does not affect the RP, what the hell does it really matter? Get a grip and stop bitching about it. If they say your name, and should not know it, and it MATTERS, STAY IN CHARACTER and ask them how they know. Then, ACCEPT THEIR ANSWER, even if it is not the most realistic, or best of roleplay. You could suggest to them in tell that they would be better to ask a person's name, but do not -demand- that they do so. It is their choice.

Accept their answer though you know it's a freaking lie? I'm not a person who likes to get walked over. Shouldn't be fault like this be corrected? Don't you say something about it when someone stands before you and types: "/me kills Under the moon"
And Why is it 'their' choice to know my name? Would you like it when you are in a RP someone walks up and types "/me is killed by under the moon with a quick dagger strike"
I know this seems extreem, but with 'name stealing' it's even worse, If all people would presume your name, Why would one have names for (other then ooc recognition)

Edit* And claiming to have a perminant name other than the one you choose in Creation is just plain lame in most cases.

Why would that be? and 'most' cases, How many would that be? Isn't this the only way to play a good spy? Or just if you character is raised with the believes ones name is very personal?

And yes I keep "whining about it, Cause this is something that is easily is resolved IF people (from what you write, presumably you aren't one of them) just think and see, hey that name tag is as ooc as my heath bar"

* Illyria tilts her head "pffuph""

EDIT: About that "just think of it that when you were offline I learned your name"  When you was Offline I married you, slaughtered your family, burnt them and sneezed upon their ashes 

[Under the moon]

Then I am forced to admit -your- characters go braindead while you are not online.

You can continue complaining about it, and crying that people know your name, but it is never going to change. If you are a good RPer, you just take it in and go with it, or walk away. If you a poor sport crybaby, then you will explode in their face with OOC rants.

As for your examples, yes they are extreem and quite lame. "name stealling".  Give me a break. Saying your character learned something during offling time is a far cry from slautering entire villages. As said, there are a great many ways to find out a person's name. If it is so freaking important to the state of your RP, then give them a simple tell saying "I would rather you did not use my name from now on, as it is important to my character not to be well known. Thanks." It goes over better than a public chat "OM*(#%*G!!! You would not know my name, you stupid %$%&@(%&!!!!one one111." I do believe one of the login system messeges tells you not to be rude, but you must have missed that one.

And you, Zanzi, assuming your character is doing something that does not affect others directly while offline is no different than creating a backstory for your character. But then I forget that you are a rather shallow RPer that just takes things as they come. Your words, not mine.

If I do see you ingame, and do decide my character would know your name, I would say it. Then I would laugh in your face (to myself) at the first twich of an OOC rant in public chat.

Anyways, I am done here. Continue complaining.

*edit* shallow- adj. 1. Means not very deep or involved, or going far beyond what can be seen. Only skimming the surface. Antonym of Deep. 2. lacking depth of intellect or knowledge; concerned only with what is obvious

It is interesting which definition was taken in the post below by a person who says his character ceases to exist when he is not online.

[Nurahk]

Why chose an extreme?

There are a few things you are assuming:
One, that the characters don't sleep 95% of the time...fair enough, I agree
Two, that the population of Hydlaa is what you see.
Three, that the characters in question talk a lot.
Four, that you not only got their name but, also, a description of what they look like.

A simple "Is it alright if my character knows your name" would be much better than just assuming they do.

[zanzibar]

And you, Zanzi, assuming your character is doing something that does not affect others directly while offline is no different than creating a backstory for your character.

There are major differences.  That's not to say there isn't such a thing as an inappropriate backstory, but when I'm not using my character, my character is not in use.  It isn't in game talking to people.  It isn't taking part in RPs.  It isn't doing anything.  It simply isn't there.  Why is this such a hard concept for you to wrap your head around?  It's common sense to everyone else.

But then I forget that you are a rather shallow RPer that just takes things as they come.

First off, you're calling me shallow, so these are your words not mine.  It's good to see the old moony back.  How have you been, flame-boy?  I missed you.  Secondly, you have to know how to take things as they come.  You can't plan everything in advance then force the people around you to follow a script.

Anyways, I am done here. Continue complaining.

Hmm.  You come in, insult people, then leave.  Textbook definition of a troll.

[Illyria]

As for your examples, yes they are extreem and quite lame. "name stealling".  Give me a break. Saying your character learned something during offling time is a far cry from slautering entire villages. As said, there are a great many ways to find out a person's name. If it is so freaking important to the state of your RP, then give them a simple tell saying "I would rather you did not use my name from now on, as it is important to my character not to be well known. Thanks." It goes over better than a public chat "OM*(#%*G!!! You would not know my name, you stupid %$%&@(%&!!!!one one111." I do believe one of the login system messeges tells you not to be rude, but you must have missed that one.

and I know, I was angry!

I'm sorry, but i just get aggravated when i have to explain obvious things over and over in a couple of minutes. Forgive my under the moon for I've sinned 
I mostly say it in a more polite way, though if it's said wih a lot of people around mostly I say it OOC in the main chat, cause they can't smell you didn't know it

As for the the many ways to find out a characters name, oke there are. Though in Illyria's case very limited (only her parents know and she self ) But in gernerall there are still a lot of times this happens. I mean Do you have 'shadowed' everyone you (with you in mean a general you to those who 'suddenly know someone's name) talk to?

Also, saying your character has 'learned' someone's name in the time she/he was offline can be oke, but again in Illyria's case I would mean that you have become all of a sudden very very very close to her and she took you in her trust. That's as impossible as what I proposed
  So saying my examples are lame? Isn't it more lame to just say 'quit whining' while it's a complain were you can't complain about?

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Seems a difficult stance to take Illyria, I mean the name is over your head there it is human nature to use information . . .

We cannot get people to quit using lol in game and you want them to not read your name tag?

I mean no offense but, good luck.

I do not see a good resolution of this complaint for you. Removing the name tag would cause more problems than it would resolve, even if it is just an option.  I would love to see people accomodate your rp, seriously i would, but i think it is a bit less than realistic to think they will.

[zanzibar]

We cannot get people to quit using lol in game

Sure we can.  I do it all the time.

[Illyria]

but i think it is a bit less than realistic to think they will.

Aaah, but aren't drrreams borrrn from surrealisticness?  Wasn't PS it self born from that? 
One can't be to optimistic, only crazy I always say