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Ravenmaster

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2003, 01:06:06 am »
What does having the name \"Nazi\" have anything to do with this being a dictatorship?
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2003, 07:05:43 pm »
ever heard of hitler???
and his gang the nazi
hitler was a dictator who wanted to rid the world of non-cristian
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2003, 08:27:54 pm »
Of course I\'ve heard of Hitler! But this forum is run by Vengeance, not Hitler! I\'m sure if Hitler had a web-board, he wouldn\'t mind you naming yourself Nazi.  But just because this may very well be a dictatorship, does not mean we belong to Nazi Germany. There is no correlation!  All governments of a certain type aren\'t the same thing.  ie. Russia is not the same as China just because they are both socialist.
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2003, 11:19:20 pm »
forum = flame.  Ya, I think he was kinda joking when he said that about an anti nazi dictatorship.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2003, 12:15:24 am »
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forum = flame.  Ya, I think he was kinda joking when he said that about an anti nazi dictatorship.

What are you talking about?  forum = flame? I don\'t understand the meaning of that.  In fact, I don\'t even know where the term \"flame\" came from. I\'ve never heard it before coming to this board.  And Vengeance was joking about an anti-nazi dictatorship? Are you saying Vengeance is a Nazi, or at least pro-nazi?  I didn\'t get that connotation.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2003, 12:46:20 am »
errr lol. sry that wasn\'t me... someone else on my account. lol seriously. I am using a public computer. lol
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2003, 03:00:59 am »
Russia hasnt been socilist for over 10 years now... and China also has come along way this decade from its old extremly hard line communistic political stance.

just thought id correct you on those points.

and lastly the vast majority of the worlds White supremisists and Neo- Nazis funly enough reside in America and Britain (south african Apartide supporters not included since there not entirely the same thing), i dont include survialists in that lot since there more anti government than anti race (although they do tend to have racial dislike to certain racial groups they think controll the government, or are favoured by the government).
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2003, 01:26:22 am »
*commends big foot on his social ideaology notability
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2003, 02:31:43 am »
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Russia hasnt been socilist for over 10 years now... and China also has come along way this decade from its old extremly hard line communistic political stance.


I feel stupid, but my point still stands
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2003, 03:51:15 am »
Ah, Venge the almighty dictator with an iron fist?If any of you think this is a dictatorship you are sorely mistaken, Venge can be taken out of power as simply as anyone can?the fact that the project is a dictatorship has some merit, but no one person has absolute power.

To even refer to Venge as a  Nazi even remotely I find extremely offensive. The Nazi party was arguably the best incarnation of evil the modern world has ever seen. Fascism and dictatorships are often associated as inherently evil?not true,  the problem is in most cases they are in today?s age.

To say that China has made long strides to improving itself in the last ten years is a tad bit odd, it has gotten better for many people in china, but many still suffer the same extremes that where suffered 10 or even 20 years ago. While I would say the US has made large strides in the last 50 years towards racial equality, I am mentioning that as an example of great strides Vs. some improvements as we see in China.

As for socialism?I do not have knowledge of any countries that don?t have any socialistic qualities, and much like communism, the concepts and ideas of many of these things are not bad, they just run in the face of what in the end seems to be natural human tendencies.

In the end we require some order so that simply the strongest do not rule the world, the flip side is that the most intelligent rule the world, also terrible, as that requires some setup to say who is the most intelligent and that would not allow for manifest destiny, the movie Gataga made this argument, and I believe it to be true.

Any government that does not allow people to live as they wish, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others has issues, the polygamy issue is a grand example in the US, or the abortion issue, or the suicide issue. Many of these are very gray and require great amounts of forethought to legislate correctly. Scientifically when does life begin and end?well many parts of us are alive long before and after death?so is it murder until every last cell in our bodies has died, well what is we make a machine that can bring us back?

Currently there is no government that allows people to live as they wish, until it affects the rights of others and until that is accomplished I feel all governments are flawed.

Pure democracy is flawed as people vote on emotion, and perception and for their own interests and not the interests of reality or the greater good, I am not saying that I hold the answers to ?what is the best governmental system? I am simply saying is all forms of governments have their flaws at this point in time, a governmental system is not inherently evil, only some lend themselves to be more evil then others.  

We have a public forum to promote thoughts in and about the Planeshift video game, and like the referee of a boxing match, a police officer, a debate moderator, Venge supplies order to what could be chaos. Venge could freak out tomorrow and delete 90% of the posts?but shortly after Venge would no longer be the moderator.

As forum members we all participate in a debate and idea exchange, Venge has the added responsibility of moderating that.

If any of you think this invades your right to free speech, you have no idea what free speech is, sort of like Eddie Vedder , but that is another issue.

Anyway I have lost what I was originally going to say and see this is going to go nowhere other then into comments about government types and other things as such that was not my point. If Venge is too heavy handed in your views there are other places you can post thoughts and express ideas, I would love to see a forum where everyone had moderator privileges. Just so we could see how immature people really are.

Anyway those are my thoughts.
 
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2003, 04:18:09 am »
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??? So we should just blindly follow their rules even if they are wrong? Not that we have much choice here, but still. We are allowed to voice out opinion about it.
This isn\'t a dictatorship (is it?)



When you come to a place like this, you place yourself in the hands of the people that run it. That means they make the rules. There for the rules they make cannot be wrong because it is their domain and have full say of what ios or isn\'t allowed. You may have the right to disagree with them but that only entitles you to abide by them unwillingly or just leave.

Now I am not asking or suggesting you, personally, to leave but that is the way the world works.

When you enter someone\'s house and they have a rule not to smoke in their house, just because you may feel you should be allowed to smoke anywhere does not give you the right to smoke in their house. As soon as you walk through their door you give up most of your freedoms and place yourself at the mercy of the owner.

Same thing aplies here. When you click the link to open these forums, you have agreed to abide by the rules that have been placed for you. If ytou do not agree with them is not an issue. You are subgect to them for as long as ytou wish to post here.

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2003, 02:02:59 am »
I think on the contrary I have been too easy on these forums and allowing too much whining and complaining and spamming.  I\'m not allowing any more.