Wipe question for the 'NO' people. What would make a wipe worth it?

[Under the moon]

* Under the moon thumps Garile on the head for skirting around the rules of the thread for the entire first half of that post.

No debating why you would not want a wipe. No debating the reasons the Devs might need a wipe. No debating at all, please. Just answer the given question.

[Garile]

*smiles*

It's called an explanation Moon. Before putting down the list I think it's also important to explain how one came to that list. otherwise someone might misunderstand why you made it like that.

[xantor]

Sorry for asking but when was the last wipe of any kind?

[peeg]

If I remember correctly the last full wipe happened ~2005, just before 0.3.011 was released. There were several smaller wipes since then - i think we had a partial money-wipe September 2007.

[Garile]

aahh yes the memories of wanting to be the first one to make sure your name was still available and getting the guild back up and running. The planning and stuff we did with passwords. Worked out alright though. No big wipescams, but then again everyone was constantly talking about them so that kinda makes it hard to fool anyone 

[Kerol]

Maybe we get a new way naming system people someday.. this would warrant a full wipe.
However, I don't think a full wipe would be that bad as long as people can "back up" their names and claim them (or a similar one) afterwards again.
Not to mention those Rings of the Past...

[The Only Joey]

In my opinion the only good reason for a wipe is.... if the developers need it.

They are developing a game and we are allowed playing and suggesting things.
If they think the game would be better if they wipe everything, so be it.

They could also be blizz.. making a horrible game where we wait to long for!

[Necronomium]

First of all Id like to make my statement about the state of the game. Today most mmorpgs will never be "finished" for example if WOW devs would state that they are going to stop developing the game since it is finished most of the people would be irritated. So you cant always hang up for the statement that this game isnt finished, it might have some glitches and stuff that devs are working on before they will start calling it ready but id really hope that they wouldnt stop developing the game to that.
Secondly about the skill differences between characters, thats really not a good reason for a wipe that new players are too jealous for the older players for them being better. I dont have very good characters at the moment but Im still not hoping for a wipe so that the "better" characters would be wiped. It will offer some challenge to the game if there is older players that you need to catch up to.

And finally about what would make the wipe worth it. If the Devs were to put something new to the game that would really make the old characters obsolete I could easily accept the char wipe. For example if they woulde implement the racial traits, if they were to take away the chance to use heavy armor for klyros, I could understand the wipe completely. Another good reason would be some kind of huge update that would bring loads of more stuff to the game that would be just plainly easier to put in with wipe. But Im really not in for the idea that when there is any kind of new thing going to be put in to the game there will be a wipe, nor will i understand the wipe to make everyone have even starting ground to the game. The older players should have the advantage over the newer players if they want it. And no one is stopping an old player to make a new char eh?

[Myysst]

Seeing as PlaneShift is more RP oriented than anythinig else, and I don't see how a wipe can even affect my RP, and well, my Chr is more about who he is, than any numbers attached.  Didn't mind all the grinding the first tiem, don't see why it's such a hassle, save for those who attach importance to numbers.  The RP'ers will still RP, and the PL'ers will still grind away, and i'll still do both, even after the wipe.  A wipe is a good thing, means enough work has been done to need a clean slate, means many new things to discover, and many new skills/quests/items/spells etc. the list is long.

Not too say I don't understand the long hours it takes to max a skill, having maxed a few myself, to the detriment of my mouse ( anyone say 'Buy Rank' in the new version? ), it's just that it's not all that big a deal IMO...I mean last time I played, Myysst was maxed everything, then I show up two years down the road, and he's like semi-noobish, which made sense in a way, he had ben awol for 2 years, prolly in DR trying to free his brothers.  I'll be ticked like the next player when the wipe happens, all that work gone to hydlaa's sewers, then i'll get over it, and then i'll start PL'ing a bit, then i'll be happy again, plus all the new things, nah, i'll get over it fast indeed.

Basically, I say wipe when and if necessary, and don't listen to much to our griping, we just get attached to our chr's and feel for them when they have to start over.  Myysst has been through 2 wipes, partial yeah, but it did make me a lot poorer, though, it also gave me a reason to go out, and kill things, and meet new players, make new friends etc...was all for the good in the end.

Besides, i'd have too many tria to know what to do with if it hadn't been wiped, I had way too many from too long ago, those high slash weapons sold for a kings ransom, and i profited all too well from them...heh.

I guess in SB, i'll continue crafting, seems to make quite a bit of tria, and I like the system, hope you didn't change it too much, never seen one like it in all the RPG's/MMORPG's i've played, had me hooked for the last three days of CB even...which is a good thing

Nuff said

PS -- I usually only wipe if and when necessary

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