Question Regarding a Rule

[NeoHazard]

After reading through the Ingame and Forum rules, I've come across a particular question that can impact roleplay to a certain degree.

Are we allowed to create guilds or have a character roleplay with a certain racist dislike with any IC race?

Obviously the rules state no racism or the like, but to roleplay racism among races based upon past experiences, past relationships, or similar events (i.e. your mom/dad/grandfather/guardian/mentor was killed by a lemur or a krahn, therefore you hate / want revenge from them) would allow for some more depth in RP, allowing a character to not have to be kind, nice, and gentle to every single person they meet, besides evil characters who do pretty much the exact opposite in the long run, i.e. subterfuge.

Just a curious question, obviously we don't want widespread racism in the game, but variety would add to the roleplay experience.

[Caarrie]

one of many posts on the subject
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=28042.0

[hitancrias]

Not sure if it's allowed or not, but I strongly advise against it. If you create such a guild, you'll probably be flamed for it as long as the your guild exists by people who say that racism "does not exist in Yliakum". Besides that it doesn't make great RP. I'd rather RP a grudge against mages or miners or bards etc. than against a race. And even then, it's probably better if such a grudge is a characteristic of a single character rather than of an entire guild.

Good luck with your guild, whatever you decide! And an applause for asking before doing.

[Dajoji]

As long as it is all IC you would not be breaking any game rules. However, keep in mind that racism is an IC crime so openly expressing racist opinions in Yliakum would get you in trouble with the guards. Check the Octarchal Decree when you get a chance.

Also, note that this is a touchy subject and not everyone will understand that it's RP. If you do carry on with this, you'll have to be extra patient in explaining this to other players as well as  keeping your distance if necessary.

Plot-wise, you would need a good reason to hate another race. Not so much because it is a touchy subject but because it's been done before and it can get old.

So, summing up: no, it si not against the rules but it can bring a lot of misunderstandings, be ready to deal with them with maturity (if you're not willing to be the bigger person if a problem arises, don't even go there); if you do go on with this, be original and stay within the game settings.

Good luck.

[Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins]

Yes, as the previous posts state - Racism via ooc is definately not allowed - but ic stuff based through your character's ideals is, however - it is against the laws of the lands of Yliakum so your guild would have to be 'secret' and played as such - for talking about it in public places, or near guards would lead to your guild and its members being 'hunted' for their 'crimes'...   

I would envisage it being very hard to RP - and would or could (depending on who is around as you RP) require a lot of 'ooc' tells or use of [] in main to reassure people that you actions are in character and not meant as an affront to them personally.

Otherwise - best of luck with such hard RP.

[Timmothy Perriwinkle]

Yeah, I'd advise you be very, very wary of who's around when you make racist comments. There are a lot of people who IC completely lose it and gather a mob of angry citizens to pummel you. Then the mob leads to people spreading horrible rumours and your character retreating, with growing resentment for the general world until he bursts out and tries to destroy an evil character because of other subplots which leads to his untimely death and rotting, barely alive in a necromanced corpse used for evil deeds that only lead to lower his reputation more.*cough*didn't happen to timmeh*cough*

...So be wary is all.

[Gaian]

Heh, I agree: RPing racism between Yliakum races is not against rules (ah, wasn't the Dermorian vs Enki "war" this kind of RP?  ). But take care, as other people said, it's an hard thing to RP with.

[Lanarel]

Heh, I agree: RPing racism between Yliakum races is not against rules (ah, wasn't the Dermorian vs Enki "war" this kind of RP?  ). But take care, as other people said, it's an hard thing to RP with.

This is against the settings, as it states that races live in peace. A whole race against another race is therefor not going to happen. A single person not liking a race for some reason could be OK with settings, and others of that race helping him as well, but not the whole race. And then still note all the warnings in previous posts.

[Mythryndel]

I appreciate the "all races live in peace" mantra but it does tend to make for a lack of conflict. It tends to get everyone feeling like there should be no animosity/crime/etc... like this is a utopia. I don't see that being the case since there are guards and "fortresses" and the like.

Maybe it is just the other games that I have been exposed to in my... um... few years... but is it really realistic that so many different races speak the same language? That they all have the same ideals? The same or compatible customs? I mean look at Europe IRL... how many different languages are spoken? How many different wars fought between people who hold different view/values? Are we saying that the races of Y'liakum have achieved something the human race has not been able to achieve in a few millennia?

Were there wars in the past between the races? Is there some great treaty? Did the Octach come down from on high (Like Sauron in the beginning of the LOTR Movie) and just start bashing those who were fighting into a broken and bleeding mass?  Is it just simpler to get everyone to get along IC this way?

I can't exactly go in-game and search the library right now... but have these things been explained in settings?

[NeoHazard]

Thank you for your warnings and advice, I will take them into consideration when I decide my character's background and RP plots.
Of course this won't be my starting RP, I'd like to get a feel for the game and its players before I go into tinkering with the roleplay.

Thanks again

-Neo Hazard

[Under the moon]

Mythryndel: That info is not completely ingame yet, but exists.

[Mythryndel]

Cool... I look forward to finding out the answers to my questions some day...

[Eloras]

Thank you for your warnings and advice, I will take them into consideration when I decide my character's background and RP plots.
Of course this won't be my starting RP, I'd like to get a feel for the game and its players before I go into tinkering with the roleplay.

Thanks again

-Neo Hazard

That sounds good as its always best to lurk something new to see how things work and what is accepted or rejected. My advice with starting some RP is to try to get in-character (IC) conversations going if your say mining or crafting etc. This will get you noticed and then later you can maybe add some background support to other peoples RP and go from there. Dont push in as it will be seen as rude and intrusive. Remember to enjoy yourself but not at other players expense then you'll be ok. By observing you can adopt the things that entertain you into your own style and dont worry too much about your quality as i think we all know when you are trying to do your best.
This is only my personal advice and not gospel as i dont consider myself a good RP'er but maybe it will aid you to becoming one