I looked over the stickies, but they don't appear to be relevant to my issue, due to not seeing the applications or other info that they refer to. I've got a loaner computer, mac with snow leopard os, fully updated today. I downloaded the game through the mac torrent, no problems. Mounted it, installed the folder available into my applications folder, and went in. Didn't see any file names like referred to in the mac install topic, but did find two icons that looked relevant, psclient and pslaunch. Was successful in launching the pslaunch, allowing me to update the system. Completed, was unable to get into the game using the launch or play button. Used the psclient instead, was able to create a character, but unable to proceed into the game. I couldn't check the server status, at least not through the link provided in the forums. I chose the non-roleplay server to start in, not interested in the roleplay server, just not that type of player. I did have a problem at first with getting the game to patch, but that was because I was launching the pslaunch while still mounted. After I moved the entire folder, which included what appears to have been an empty folder, into applications, I'm showing a folder with the game inside. There's no icon, just a folder. I'm assuming that's to be expected, but figured I'd include that info in case I installed improperly. I'm still fairly new to the mac, since I used to have windows 7 installed, and used the mac as mainly a windows computer (most of my games don't support mac, darn it!). I'm really interested in the game, and would love to explore it further. The creation process was really fun, so I'm wondering what I'll find when I'm able to successfully get in. Please help, I'm really liking what I've seen so far.