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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2003, 08:34:07 pm »
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How about the Endukai, lots of people will choose them, usually to be assassins using the azure way.

according to race description, enkidukais art better as warriors, and actually not so good as spellcasters.
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2003, 10:07:59 pm »
Most people choose endukais as assassins because of:
1. their plus3 to wis, hence better use of the azure way.
2.bonus on agility.
3. the female looks good in the dark skin :P
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2003, 10:40:45 pm »
Another good Klyros Idea would be Death from above, They can fly right? Well, Buff up Dex and you have a Airborn bomber/Fighter
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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2003, 10:42:04 pm »
but enkis besides agaility have also strenght and endurance + they are good at martial arts.
Agility + Strenght + Endurance + Martial Arts make them born warriors. Really, they aren\'t as good assassins as warriors ;)
-3 to mana make them worse at any way of magic ;)
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2003, 06:17:27 am »
THat\'s exactly what I thought when Drakar here asked me to join the Defenders, I said to myself that an assasin endukai is stupid because of the stats, but I didn\'t want a Klyros  ;)  So I am a knight
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2003, 02:17:57 am »
I disagree. Have you ever played the game D2: LoD? Well, that is a perfect example of the Necromancer. When you look at him w/o actually seeing him or playing as him, he seems perfect. But once you start working on a Necro char, you soon realize that they truthfully suck... DOn\'t worry, if you are playing PS now, KEEP YOUR CHAR! Don\'t make a new one that\'s Klyros... at least don\'t make it ur main char.

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2003, 04:24:07 am »
Yeah....but it\'s not like you should have more than one char anyways Zeon... ;)

It\'s just common sense to me, but if you find that a certain race is more powerful in the beggining of a game than another, then why not just make friends with a lot of people with that type of character and use them in your party to your advantage?

I don\'t see the point in complaining, do you want the dev\'s to melt all the races down into the basic Human race? Having advantages/disadvantages is essential in giving the game variety as well as a more personal \'feel\' to the Role Playing experience. For Example, anyone ever consider Arm/Leg Disablement in the Char Creation?
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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2003, 04:51:58 am »
Well, arm disablement for extra magic always seemed to me like a good idea for someone who will not be fighting much.
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2003, 02:43:49 pm »
I \'m not complaining! These people are complaining! I\'m jsut using an allusion to let them know that the Klyros probably won\'t be as \"perfect\" as they think and not to get all worried about it...
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2003, 03:35:23 pm »
If the Klyros race isn\'t as perfect as people say, then which race would you say is better, and why, O\' Great, O\' Grand - Master Zeonire?
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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2003, 04:06:18 pm »
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If the Klyros race isn\'t as perfect as people say, then which race would you say is better, and why, O\' Great, O\' Grand - Master Zeonire?

bah, you can\'t say some race is better than another...
all races have advantages and disadvantages, some are better at fighting, some at magic. Like Klyros can fly, but they can\'t wear any heavy armour, and their skeletons are easy to damage. Furthermore they can fly only for a short period of time. You might get into fight with kran or something that will have high magic resistance. You will fly for a bit, and what then? Get killed by your enemy.
And if you mean who is better than Klyros as:
mages: Lemur, Xacha
warriors: Enkidukai, Hammerwielder, Kran
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2003, 04:10:44 pm »
Believe I didn\'t mention your name, Draklar. I told the all-knowing Zeonire to tell us which race is the better one. :)

Then again, I think I\'d rather choose Dermorian or Nolthrir over Xacha for a mage character.
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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2003, 04:23:50 pm »
Yeah. All races are balanced. It\'s just that \"the beauty is in the eye of the beholder\" thing applies very well.
Some races are better at certain classes and worse at others.
Some have some special abilities, some do not.
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So for me and my RPed druid, the dermorians are perfect. To another klyros might do the thing...

(trying to show that disputes about best races(or sth else) are futile. All is relative ;))
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« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2003, 05:27:46 pm »
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Believe I didn\'t mention your name, Draklar. I told the all-knowing Zeonire to tell us which race is the better one. :)

Then again, I think I\'d rather choose Dermorian or Nolthrir over Xacha for a mage character.

well i did know the answer and i didn\'t want you to wait any longer ;) :D
whatever... you might pick Kran for a mage, just saying which races are best at magics. +2/4 mana at char creation make it pretty clear ;)
well that, and stuff that Lemurs get +1 to all elemental ways at start, and that Xachas strongly concentrate on magic.
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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2003, 10:50:40 pm »
ok, this thread seem to be started by not reading races descriptions.
Klyros: they aren\'t best spellcasters! I\'d place \'em as average spellcasters. Class that they are best in: merchant.
Dermorian: as above, but best as rangers.
Enkidukai: assassin won\'t use all of their adventages, best as warriors.
Nolthrir: good spellcaster, but not as good as Xacha or Lemur. Probably best if you want the blue way.
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