So there will be no freeshards like those running with ultima online c

[hjoerek]

(So there will be no freeshards like those running with ultima online clients?)

I just read the license
http://www.planeshift.it/pslicense.html

So even when with the final release of the game, there will be no freeshards allowed?
For example a server for german speaking player with stricter rpg rules, like no ooc (out of character) speaking allowed?

But still everybody can download the full source code of client and server software?? (And can install the server on his home server? )

I\'m a little confused now...

[Caldazar]

Why would you want a freeshard when the game is free?

[hjoerek]

Because there are different kind of players. Some want  more diabolo style monster slashing, others want (epic?) rpg with believable characters in a believable  fantasy world, where no one uses smileys and such in game.

so there should be different server for them.

And as said above, not everybody can express himself that good in english. I would have problems with it...

[Vengeance]

That is correct.  We may have shards but we will not have untrusted shards run by individuals who \"feel like it\".

[Deddarus]

unregulated free shards would result in the good name/reputation of PS being trashed by being associated with a bunch of servers that dont know what they are doing (im not saying all free shards would be like that.. i used to be a senior gm on one of the most popular UO free shards..... but there will be a lot of crappy ones)

[hjoerek]

Hm, don\'t know if there is a way to regulate them, if they would be allowed.

Actually, I was looking if there is something after Ultima Online which is really old now.  There is NwN (Neverwinter nights), but its not open source and the server can only have 60 clients at the same time. The graphics of nwn is better, but UO has much more GM features.

[Kiva]

Probably because UO is a MMORPG, and NWN isn\'t. It\'s just an RPG capable of hosting a big multiplayer game, but 60 clients isn\'t much compared to the +1,000,000 people playing UO. Maybe that\'s why UO has better GM features.

However, if people decide to make their own quests, their own graphics, their own models, and their own everything, there could easily be fake-PlaneShift shards, but I don\'t think it\'ll happen in the near future.

[Kiern]

Bah...NWN would never let me play multiplayer...loser

That would be cool to have a totally different game based on the same thing...well, maybe not cool, very strange for people used to PS

[Xordan]

Actually... I used to be lead GM in a NWN server which could hold upto 500 players. (A big mod made this possible)
And the GM features were quite good. Especially because it ran the land of nordock map, which gives lots of extra stuff.  
*remembers the good ol\' fletching days*

Anybody can make their own server without permission, but u can\'t have the art/music. So there won\'t be lots of little servers.

[Bigfoot]

I personaly would kill the person that made the Nordock module. Cant stand that pile of crap (I have a thing against the hardcore rules) its like some wild rabbit, every second damn PW is a nordock module running server!. Actualy all the NWN persistant world servers out there are crud, mainly since there made by people with little imagination and to much or maybe to little experiance with real mmorpgs, most dont use or implement quests or any real form of story and most try to emulate other mmorpgs.

As a mmorpg NWN actualy stands up rather well, even though its not actualy intended to be used in such a way. Does have alot of problems in some areas sicne it is aimed and designed for single player (which is why some of the rules and abilities are rather differant from the PnP rules, and can be out balanceing in PvP.) The main problem ive seen is alot of the PW\'s dont use the community made content, thats out there. There are some, since a couple have used my Savage Shields hak pak, and some use the odd head pak or cloak or weapon hak, but most use the OC centent and the result is they are all the same, just with altered stats on monsters and uber weapons and armor housed in boreingly stark environments (not the NWN engine, but the builder makeing the areas lack of detail) with little story, and ludicrus rules.

The GM situation in UO is almost non exsistant since Origin was closed and they fired all the volunteer counselors and seers. But UO has never realy had, hmm actualy alot of MMorpgs have poor GM service. Its a trend they all tend to share

Bah...NWN would never let me play multiplayer...loser

Was it a pirated copy?, and if not did you register it?... sicne you have to have your CD key registered with Bioware (*bows to the god of RPG\'s*) in order to access multiplayer with gamespy. Although I get a feeling you might have a pirated copy since you would be able to ask in the troubleshooting forumn for help, although you wouldnt be able to post there unless you registered your copy which brings us back to the begining

[Kiern]

Nah, no pirating

I just haven\'t bothered to seek help, because I\'ve been too busy to be playing games since I\'ve bought it.

[Bigfoot]

Got Hordes of the Underdark?

Best expansion theyve made so far, far better than shadows of undrentide and the First campaign.

Large battles, most of the most popular monsters (mind flayers, beholders drow, dracolich, a duke of hell ), the Underdark, best music, best tilesets, best story, romance sub plots (male and female) and epic level content. (Although the ending is a bit of a downer), Robes . Get it if you havent, deffinetly worth it.

anyway de-rail off