I have 3d studio max 4, can I heLp?

[malverian]

I\'ve been watching this project for 2 years off and on, and every time I look at this board, I\'m amazed more and more by how dumb people are. \"You have to be 16\" ? That\'s complete bullshit. It\'s a volunteer based project and you could be 3 if you had the skill that they needed. Child labor laws don\'t apply.

P.S. I realize that Mephisto has already replied properly to this thread, but the ignorance level of people in this forum makes me so stock raging mad that I can\'t help but put in my two cents.

[Cyonamie]

u technically could be 14 to work in the united states, but i remember washi saying that  they want to turn planeshift into an official organization, making it minimun legally 16...if not, someone could get a lawsuit out of this for agism or whatever, but less then 14, how did u get ur hands on 3dsmax?

[Mephisto]

ok so maybe it\'s rather good that they have the 16 year old rule, I mean, they can\'t affoard to risk any lawsuits, I mean people sue anybody for anything these days just to get a nickel, better to just keep everything 100% secure just in case

[ParaSite]

You must be atleast of age 16 to work but you can\'t really call it \"work\" as you do not get paid, if you can\'t \"work\" at all you can\'t even clean your own room, yippey!

Wrong. Helping PS is concidered voluntary work. And voluntary work is also work for the law.

Cleaning up your room, isn\'t voluntary, your mom demands it

[Vengeance]

You must be 16 because Planeshift is being set up as an actual legal entity (non-profit) in Italy, so that all developers can sign a contract with Planeshift agreeing to donate their contributed work to the entity, so they can\'t take it back later if they get pissed and quit.  We need to know what we own and what we don\'t own.

Under Italian law, you must be 16 to sign a contract of this nature.

This is my understanding.

- Vengeance

[Cyonamie]

but thats italian law, if someone doesnt live in italy it doesnt apply? another thing, dunno if its in italian law too, but you could get your parent or guardian to agree to it or somefin, i dunno, im not much for legal stuff

[Vengeance]

Talad has not been talking to students or programmers, but instead *actual*lawyers*!!!  :-)

We should probably defer to their expertise.

- Venge

[Magdalena]

Originally posted by tcd12642
this board type is dumb, phpBB is better1
i can\'t upload my pix
with yabb/phpBB yabb mod, you can
I luv phpbb
part of the group

you forgot to mention how much working adding mods is.

not to mention that file attachments suck up space and bandwidth site owners don\'t want to waste.

I love phpbb too but it\'s had it\'s problems.

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by ParaSite

You must be atleast of age 16 to work but you can\'t really call it \"work\" as you do not get paid, if you can\'t \"work\" at all you can\'t even clean your own room, yippey!

Wrong. Helping PS is concidered voluntary work. And voluntary work is also work for the law.

Cleaning up your room, isn\'t voluntary, your mom demands it

I cant do volountary work?!
HARR HARR, in your face church! i\'m not helping you again  

[Link]

Im sure the Kid doesnt have a legit Copy, He probley got it from Kazaa, along with a few viruses packed neatly inside. I dont think a 13 year olds parents would buy something like that for him and I dont think a 13 year old could afford it on his own.

[Bigfoot]

You would be surprised at how few people have legit copies ^^, with a price tag over 3000$ american (around 7000$ in my country currency) its something people would rarely legitamatly see outside a Studio or University...

I my self have a, dare i say it \"Pirated\"copy, how ever no money was exchanged for it and theres virtulely nill chance of me ever being able to actualy BUY a copy so no money got robed from the software makers and i aint useing it for things that Im selling or making a profit on, add to that Im useing a fairly old version compared to the current and very altered 4 (i think 5 is coming out soon). Basicly my copy doesnt exist in all respects.

If I ever was in a position where i needed to make things for a commercial product I would buy a copy. After all at the end of it i would of have earned the money back.

Whats this got to do with anything.. not sure Im a little bored.

[Mephisto]

I kinda agree here bigfoot, not many \"average\" persons can affoard to buy something like that, only massive game developers can, when they set the price at 3000$ they can\'t really expect many people to buy it, it\'s not something you just think: \"hey, I have nothing to do, I might aswell walk over to the shop and buy myself a copy of 3dstudio max\"
I think they would make a lot more money on it if they reduced the price, considering the cost of the software right now you might say it\'s a bit too... expensive,
but then again if they lowered the price to 1500$ it would still be bloody expensive and most people wouldn\'t buy it,
Just a thought

[Bigfoot]

I would buy it for that price. But not to much more than that.

The academic version is that much, however you have to be a student and live within the US (I think cant remeber) so that kinda screws me over, im no student and i dont live in \"mighty\"america.

[Cyonamie]

send me the money and i send you the max

[AendarCallenlasse]

heh every single prog I have on my comp is either free or pirated.  I\'m poor and lazy.