Laanx dungeon entrance...

[Induane]

If you need stregnth and endurance then the mages are left out.  Unable to make money they will not be able to level their skills.  The only other solution would be to have certain monster types that were strong in hand to hand combat but weak to magic that dropped items.  That would ensure that they could fund themselves.

[Zan]

Might I mention that in the future many spells will be available to mages. I am confident that there will be spells allowing a mage to survive falls nobody could survive without the use of magic.

[Induane]

Thank you for your words Zan.  At a time where I was beginning to feel a little cynical you bring forth exactly what I need to feel uplifted and rejuvinated.  I hope you are correct dear sir!

[Keyaz]

eventually it is hopeful to be able to get experience by using skills, as Moogie has shown her opinion of not wanting to club rats for hours on end, i too will use skills to improve myself, but that is a far off dream, as with many wishes though, the more patient we are, the quicker they will come true

[DaveG]

Originally posted by Demarthl
eventually it is hopeful to be able to get experience by using skills

Mining gives PP, right now.  (successfully digging something up)  Not that anyone actually needs anymore PP right now...

[Leeloo]

WTF? Noone needs progression points? Then how am I surposed to increase my hit points enough to survive the jump down the well, or train magic? I\'m level 1 red, and 0 the others, just to make them all 1, I would need close to 100 PPs. And I need lots of more hit points to survive the jump down the well, and just to get one of those, I need lots of PPs. Lots * lots = huge number.

Some of you may have gained lots of PPs from old bugs, or simply by playing for a long time, but not everyone have been playing that long.

[Manar]

A lot of people seem to gain PP\'s faster then the trias needed to spend them on training. Dunno why, my PP\'s have slowly but steadily been going down for a while.

[Karyuu]

It\'s simple - there are less ways of gaining tria than there are of gaining PPs at the moment. Thus there is usually an imbalance. That\'s certainly the case with me - I\'ve several hundred PPs and yet I\'m struggling to find some source of \"income\" (before I get bored out of my mind with the same old tasks).

*edit* I shouldn\'t have said \"less ways.\" I meant to state that it is easier to kill a Rogue or Tefusang for PPs, for example, but their drops (if any) do not add up to enough tria to balance out the amount of points. Whew.

[Nikodemus]

it will never happen that you will gain the same amount of money and PP\'s so you can train and don\'t have PP\'s left. It won\'t happen because people not always earn trias to train skills. They buy items and spent trias on many other things.
My conclusion is:
PP\'s dont have to be element in the skilling system. They create more problems than advantages. I hope i will find some time to write about my theory later....

[Zan]

Nikodemus you perfectly pointed out why there should be more ways to earn trias than there are to gain experience, so far this isn\'t the case. Which is why most will agree the game is rather unbalanced in this aspect but I am confident that will change once more important problems are taken care of.

[Minereoy]

I suppose the only way is jumping. Perhaps the ones with high endurance are the only ones \"worthy\" of entering.

[winterk]

I have a new character with only about 100hp and I was able to get down the well safely and easily. All you have to do is go as far on the bridge as you can, then get on the rope and walk across. Then turn around and go down this new broken section till you are directly over the rail . Take a step off and land on the rail and you will have about 40hp of damage on the fall. After that just enter the caves after hopping off of the rail. If you can\'t do this then you are too dumb to be allowed to play the game in the first place.

[Keyaz]

hey now, no name calling, anyhones welcome to play planeshift as long as they obey the rules

[winterk]

Hey I am just saying.... But if anyone wishes to randomly leap off of that bridge then let me know ahead of time so I can get a whole bunch of yall scheduled to jump at once, and we can take a screen shot of the mass suicide.

[Havox]

Using the bridge was pretty simple.
Now i cant even get there. i die in the well (jump - load - move - die) X(