Second wipe

[steuben]

fattkatt, you may have betaed, but did you ever alpha? ps isn\'t even to beta stage yet.

[Keyaz]

mmhmm pre alpha ^^

and no matter how many you\'ve donme of anything, you still suck.

if ignorance is bliss then that makes teamwork heavenly
thats what ps is about, not hw many bugs you find, or your level, how many rats you owned in 5 minutes, its about working together and building a dream, dont throw your weight around shouting \"i have experience make way!\"
we\'ll throw it right back at you, with a twist

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Demarthl
mmhmm pre alpha ^^

and no matter how many you\'ve donme of anything, you still suck.

if ignorance is bliss then that makes teamwork heavenly
thats what ps is about, not hw many bugs you find, or your level, how many rats you owned in 5 minutes, its about working together and building a dream, dont throw your weight around shouting \"i have experience make way!\"
we\'ll throw it right back at you, with a twist

I\'m glad that the people in charge of this thing have vision like you do.

[Valbrandr]

I have been talking with people... and I think there should be a second character wipe.  People cheated so much in the short period of time they could.  Not to mention there is a way that you can stand in front of trepors and they dont attack... I have to run around the room kiling them.  (I wish I knew how to do it )  But yes.. when Ylians have 150 str already I think everything should be wiped.  No way any of us could do that without cheating .

[Cyl]

Originally posted by fattkatt
Of course there will be wipes,but over something this trivial?Funny you should mention WoW i beated that and EQ 1 Lineage 2 and am doing 3 other beatas now.Ihave just been invited to the D and D alpha,so i know what this is all about,and in all of that i have never seen wipes for such trivial stuff.Can\'t handle my reply go play with your self and don\'t try and teach someone who spends most of his time doing betas what it is all about.

*starts worshipping the ground (with excrementing on it) fattkatt walks on and kisses his butt (with the tip of his foot)*

seriously you think you are anything special?

Better a hundred wipes then a hundred cheated characters!

[mikewsnc]

Originally posted by Cyl


Better a hundred wipes then a hundred cheated characters!

Most definitly second this comment.

Aranis

[fattkatt]

Ah and the reek of hypocricy fills the air,the reason it seems that everyone wants a wipe is because some may have a character advantage.Yet this is is only a pre beta we are here to check the game not to build characters sorry fools ya cant have it both ways.Either character development is important or its not,if it is than yes wipe if not than the wipe whiners are total hypocrites and just jealous of the cheaters.

[Keyaz]

or fattkatt your going to stop looking down on people because we\'re all equal, and realise we are going to do what the Dev\'s want and you have no other choice but to leave if you dont like it.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by fattkatt
Every one or no one frankly i am getting tired of this i worked hard on my toon,Didnt cheat didnt exploit and now its all out the window again.If this is going to be the norm wipe every time the devs or programmers goof,this is all a huge waste of time.When the next wipe happens it will be 100 people in the sewers each camping a rat because there are not enough mobs,populate the outdoors at least.There is a ton of room to put rats outdoors.

There are 7 rats in Ojaveda, two rats in the tefu valley, several rats in the arena, and tonnes of clackers in both the arena and the dungeon.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by fattkatt
Ah and the reek of hypocricy fills the air,the reason it seems that everyone wants a wipe is because some may have a character advantage.Yet this is is only a pre beta we are here to check the game not to build characters sorry fools ya cant have it both ways.Either character development is important or its not,if it is than yes wipe if not than the wipe whiners are total hypocrites and just jealous of the cheaters.

We\'re playtesting it.  To get a realistic playtesting experience, we need to have a realistic version of the game.

[ilBaal]

This game still isn\'t a race for the best stats, so what?
 When people use ridiculous amounts of time (or exploiting) to make their characters \"mighty\", let them. They don\'t \"win\" this game in any way. Wiping every month could annoy a lot of players though...

[leuxast]

Ahh.....I\'m all for wipes...The more the better. If there\'s a reason, there should be a wipe. Better that every player is wiped than one player have a stupid advantage.
And all those that moan about the wipes are stupid, because the only ones who moan about the wipes are the ones who\'ve already exploited to make money!

[ilBaal]

Originally posted by leuxast
And all those that moan about the wipes are stupid,

I just don\'t bother when some people have higher stats than me...

[Eolius]

Originally posted by provisionist1
...that a second full wipe is necessary. It would seem that rats are dropping regularly 200 tria weapons at a time, people are selling them and training. The second inventory wipe was to get rid of things if the mansters dropped too much loot, but since players are training, this wouldn\'t matter. If there is not a second full wipe when this new looting system is worked out then there will be a large group of power-levelers that have become uber-strong, agile, intelligent, everything. This would be very bad, for the game to be challenging (and therefore enjoyable) a second full wipe is needed.

On a second note, it would also be preferable if the second wipe occurs after an update by a week or two so people of every client can have equal access to planeshift.

I would finally like to point out that I am not complaining. I know this is a pre-alpha tech demo and things will be done that I don\'t like, things will be done that I like and others don\'t. I am merely voicing my opinion after thinking about this logically.

Thanks devs, mods, gm\'s, everyone. Planeshift is awesome and I want it to stay that way. I look forward to playing when the mac client comes out.

Xirius

Here\'s a fact... How much did you trained after the wipe?
It seems that you didn\'t bercause if you did you would know that the new progression system doesn\'t permit somebody to gain high levels (or just levels) in short time?
For the 10 level of sword i used 85 pp?
How many do you get from a rat? 0,2 i guess.
And you have to kill about 300-500 rats for the practical part of the training only, because now leveling isn\'t 2 hits with a sword and you are leveled.
So a full wipe isn\'t required, a inventory wipe will do just fine.
People are now exceding money (that they got from bugs) and lack pp so training is out of the question.
I don\'t bother about levels and stuff like that but i\'ll have to create my character for the 5th time...

Edit:

I just don\'t bother when some people have higher stats than me...

This is not a pvp game, the fact that there are stonger ppl than you isn\'t important and has nothing to do with levels.
But the fact that you show a newcomer the world and you get killed by a  clacker has alot to do with levels.
So you train to be able to kill that clacker next time but you get wiped... And a seccond thing about wipes... Has anybody noticed the behaviour of ppl just before a wipe?  They seem to find nothing better to do and duel each other. Well, that isn\'t helping RP at all (that isn\'t helping anything actualy)

[fattkatt]

Its good to know somebody gets it kudos ilbaal and Eolius.