Bah, if I see Akkaio one more time...

[Jakob]

What would life be like if everything in life that you could possibly were just handed to you on a silver platter?  How boring would that be?

[Kim]

Stop complaining about something so silly. At least you can play the game fully!

It\'s inconvenient, but you chose to be an Enki and that\'s the consequences of that choice. If you\'re so easily killed, you probably shouldn\'t be challenging the mosters in the arena without a party either.

I\'m wondering, with so my Enki\'s in this game, why I never see anyone roleplaying in Ojaveda. It\'s always deserted except for the few fighting rats. I wish we could build up the RPing there.

[sesmi]

You spawn in akkaio? i\'m an enki and i spawn in hydlaa  ?(

[TheMinority]

i\'m an enki, too, and i\'m not complaining. it\'s a minor inconvenience, but i deal with it. and it so does not take 20 minutes to get back to hydlaa! more like 5.

i\'m always willing to RP, wherever i am. i\'ll often stand near the character spawn point in Akkaio to meet whoever comes up (since yes, that does seem to be where the most people are).

yeah, though... more RP in akkaio would be nice... and perhaps doing away with that rogue in the warehouse would make things easier for the new kitties.  maybe move him outside? near the boxes to the right of the spawn point would be nice.

[Ekelios]

forget it, none of you who replied to me didnt actually read my post... i posted our experience because somebody said the warehouse is a good place for newbies and i 100% dissagreed with that.

maybe we will come back when the game is more finished


and to the person that said he wouldnt want to play anything tough, trust me, we play games that are 46756427865245 times more challenging than this... the only thing challenging in this game is that you have to \"Get there quick before somebody else does if you want to play an Enki\"... nothing else is close to being challenging/tough... MMORPG\'s are nowhere near tough, all they are is a challenge of how much you can take doing the same thing over and over...

and why bring life into this, this is a game, an escape from life, who cares if life is tough...


im not flaming the game, it will be a nice game when its done, im just pissed with the attitudes of the campers who were in the warehouse yesterday and so was my friend (it was that bad, he uninstalled it)... we tried to group, they didnt want to know, so why should we run to Hydlaa  for the next hour to kill a few rats and run ALL the way back to Akkaio just because some greedy camper is sitting on 3 rat spawns and wont let us have 1, the quest even says \"theres some rats in the warehouse, can you kill them for me and bring back the hides\", why run to the sewer, he doesnt want sewer rats, he wants warehouse rats, that doesnt make good RP if you have to give him the wrong rat hides and you want to be an honest character...


and spawns cant be good if somebody comes up and offers you 250 tria to find another rat so they can camp it themselves... (that person is a member of this forum) character name begins with \"S\", you know who you are...

[Jakob]

Originally posted by Ekelios
im just pissed with the attitudes of the campers who were in the warehouse yesterday and so was my friend (it was that bad, he uninstalled it)...

Isn\'t everybody?  Rats are public property...  I find if you beat someone to a rat once, they tend to leave.  I don\'t like working as an exterminator, but it\'s what\'s open to me right now.

[Ekelios]

ok, heres the situation


3 rats on the easy side

3 rats and a rogue on the hard side

2 rats stuck in the middle of the dividing crates so nobody can click on them...



the hard side was full and my friend couldnt jump high even after i showed him, so we was going to stay on the easy side.

there was 2 fEnki\'s on the top of the divider watching for a free rat, one of them jumped off to the hard side, i think the other was AFK


the easy side had 1 person camping ALL 3 spawn points, he was killing them in 1 hit, i dont even know why he was there in the first place... anyway, i told my friend to stand on a certain spot where the rat would spawn in, the rat spawned in as expected but this camper ran up to us, i was showing my friend how to attack the rat because it was biting his feet, and the camper just slapped it even though there was 2 people standing next to it already...

i asked him nicely to leave 1 rat for us because im showing my friend here how to play, and he just told me to F off and started going on about how he got here first... that pissed my friend off, we then sat around for it to spawn again, and he killed the rat again... my friend isnt exactly fast at doing stuff and the rat didnt let him click on it when it was directly under him because he ended up clicking on himself, which also got him a bit annoyed

eventually the camper stopped and ran out the warehouse, then the fEnki i thought was AFK jumped down and killed the rat we was standing next to that i asked the other person to leave alone for a minute and the fEnki started camping herself... THAT is when he gave up...

[Karyuu]

Camping is a serious problem, every player of PlaneShift learns this almost immediately. If someone gives you serious problems, however, particularly with language, feel free to notify a GM (search for someone in the Game Masters guild using /who, or write a petition with the name of the offender and a short explanation of the problem). Your friend would not have died fighting rats in Hydlaan sewers, that is clear. So why didn\'t you two decide to make a run for them? Simply because of the distance? Instead of wasting an hour of your time with someone eating away at your nerves, you could have spent a grand total of five minutes maximum traveling to the sewers, maybe fifteen minutes finding what you need, and running back.

You have to run! And you have to get used to it. You\'re not going to stay in Akkaio forever, might as well start familiarizing yourself with the best roads leading to the other places of significance. Besides, the main dirt path isn\'t even the fastest way :) Explore a bit.

[Shooree]

Seems like you really have ahad a hard time... But get over it, friend! There are waaay to many good people in PS, willing to help, share or RP, to just quit. you had a bad day. the guy was a rathole... I am certain that his attitude (if not a GM, for that matter) will get the best of him soon enough. What I\'m saying is: try again! both you and your friend! It will work out in the end.

[Ekelios]

\"Instead of wasting an hour of your time with someone eating away at your nerves\"


we didnt spend an hour, it was like 10 mins, we wanted 1 (ONE) stupid rat to see if he liked the combat controls (he REALLY wanted to be an Enki because they looked the best to him) and if he did then we was going to kill some rats somehwere else for the quest, if he didnt like the controls i was going to show him some other stuff (he was bent on making a fighting type character though), anyway, i asked nicely for 1 rat, and got abuse instead, i think he made up his mind that he wasnt going to play again at that point (first impressions of the community), but he stayed a little longer for me, then when the camper went another camper come in and done the same... is 1 rat too much to ask for?

i will try and get him to play again because it was a bad day and its normally quiet in the week, maybe his ideas will change


yes, he could have made a different character and gone to the sewer, but he just didnt want to, he saw it was the same situation down there aswell (he lives with me) he was watching my screen because i was checking to see the state of the sewer to go down there instead.



back on topic, lol,

the run is a long way, if you want to duel, it would be better to duel in the death realm because you can get back to where you was in a  few seconds. the first time i played an Enki, i ran all the way to Hydlaa and never duelled before, Noxide challenged me on top of the harnquist sign, i didnt know how strong he was, 1 hit and i was back in Akkaio, i didnt know that you died when you duelled, most games i played with duelling you just stand up again in the spot you died :\\

if you are dying from mobs, you are doing something wrong, you should learn that the mobs you are hunting are too strong and you should go and kill weaker stuff for a while, i can understand wanting to get good quick, but MMORPG\'s are famous for being \"kill X amount of this and bring back X amount of that\" type of games...


sorry for hijacking the thread with my problem, i only posted because somebody said how great the warehouse rats were for newbies...

[Suno_Regin]

Originally posted by Ekelios

Originally posted by Kias
b) The rats in the warehouse are great for newbies.

no they are not, my friend TRIED playing an Enki yesterday, but gave up because the warehouse is packed full of spawn campers...

if you jump over the boxes and into the back, if there is nobody else there you have to deal with a rogue or whatever it is that kills you in 2 hits as well as the rats...

its the worst newbie place in the game

ok, there are 3 safe rats you can kill, great, that means that the 1 or 2 people in there already are spawn camping those 3 rats and you dont stand a chance of getting anything...

now you feel forced to run to Hydlaa, wow, lets run for the next 20 minutes to get to the sewer...

there are 236796125762 rats in the sewer where only 10-20 people are ever down there at one time, then you have Enki town with 6 rats and 2/3 of the PS population wanting to kill a rat because they are Enki\'s...

he isnt playing again, he feels that a game is meant to be fun, that warehouse is FAR from fun, he only just started aswell, getting used to the controls, he didnt have a chance to get used to the combat controls because random bob and average joe were spawn camping...

roleplaying is NOT waiting around for 8 hours for a rat to be freed up so you can start a quest to get 6 rat hides so you can finish the quest and get enough tria to buy a normal axe with the quest money so you can move on to something better then a rat just so you can do something that you want to do for a change because you was too weak for anything else... and most of the text based RP is in the plaza in Hydlaa... you try and RP in Akkaio and you get ignored...

that is the worst area of the game.



it wouldnt be so bad if the towns had a spawn point that you have to click on and accept to be spawned back there when you exit the death realm or something... then you could run to Hydlaa and spawn back there instead of that horrible Enki town.

I got sick of reading posts down to here. I\'m NOT, NOT, killing rats, Make about 200 trias every 3 hours, not a chance, I WANT to go to the arena and get some good money for a longsword, not waste my entire day and get about 1000 trias that I can blow off for...a glyph maybe?

Seriously though, Enki\'s spawn too far away. Death is fun, you learn from it, but it gets boring that whenever I end up dying I have to run through the Hills, then be drained of stamina and walk about 2 steps a minute to the arena...-_-

[Suno_Regin]

BTW, whoever jacked my thread and started talking about rats, prepare to meet me ingame...

[Ekelios]

me? come to the platinum mines then :-)


EDIT: well, when the server gets back up, i didnt know it was down :p

[Suno_Regin]

lol

I didn\'t know the server was back up

[Karyuu]

Discussions evolve too, Suno. Better learn to deal with that. As more \"race\"-specific locations are added, I have no doubts at all that other races will spawn from there. It is just that the Enkidukai center has been built first, and they get to enjoy spawning among \'familiar\' architecture (no doubt a welcome sight after a gruesome, violent end). What is your suggestion? Make everyone spawn in Hydlaa, no matter what? Make people spawn in the Arena? And then people who battle Rogues in Akkaio will complain that they have to run all the way back there when they are killed.

The problem doesn\'t go away, so it is best to learn to deal with it. Like Xordan said, death will be an even harsher ordeal in the future - spending a few minutes running will be nothing compared to it. Better prepare yourself.