Staying with planeshift :)

[XpYtZ]

In light of a number of (possibly old) threads that I have seen around lately with people leaving because this person or that person saying something to them. I wan\'t to make it perfectly clear that I -for one- am stickuing around. No one PMs me, no one Emails me and hell I don\'t even get a responce from the Devs no matter how many times I apply (it\'s up to 10 now I think) but I see no reason to leave a perfectly viable and much needed project over some twelve-year-old squabbles.
Who\'s the bigger fool; the one who open\'s their useless mouth and attacks perfectly useful members of the community over a bad day or the one that lets it ruin their Hero?

[edit]Waithing for deletiong/closing at the will of...

[Karyuu]

People have their reasons, reasons that may not be apparent without a deeper glance. Some are perfectly valid, some lack foundation, but we\'re not here to make fun of each other, or ridicule anyone over his or her decision. If someone has left, let them go unless you wish to keep in touch for positive purposes. I\'m glad many people are sticking around no matter what, because these are the ones that will influence the future of the community, not those who have given up. However, everyone has the right to a choice.

Be careful with this thread :) I\'d much rather discussions remain open, but it is quite an iffy subject, and the wrong kind of replies may very well hasten its closure.

Try to be sensitive to others for their experiences.

[verideon]

i\'ve never been harassed by any devs/mods or anyone of that rank. If I did I would probally read it and take it as a joke. if we all start complaining about stupid things in life we would have a thread here with like 50 billion posts.

*UPDATE!* life is life, put up with it.

also with Efflixi Aduro\'s post

Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
Mods were placed here to keep the place a good enviroment since the devs didnt have time but as people likes the ones who I got sick of came along they made the place worse with their usless insults, closing threads, etc.

Indeed Moderators were placed here to keep these forums in a good enviroment. but well the reason Moderators close threads is the main purpose of safty for the other members of the forum. they do this if it contains harrassing, sexist and racist comments and other things like this. plus if there are stupid and inappropriate posts then they close it so that people don\'t start argueing over a post ie; price of eggs in india and stuff. what do these threads really have to do with Planeshift or life???

[Valbrandr]

I was thinking of making a thread like this maybe titled \"Why are you staying\"  but I wasnt sure how people would take it and I didnt want to be the only one to post .  But that is good to hear XpYtZ, I will join you .  I am another that will not leave.  So over the next 30 to 50 years XpYtZ9er (my goodness I have a hard time spelling your name even though it is only 5 letter )  I hope to see you around.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by XpYtZ
In light of a number of (possibly old) threads that I have seen around lately with people leaving because this person or that person saying something to them. I wan\'t to make it perfectly clear that I -for one- am stickuing around. No one PMs me, no one Emails me and hell I don\'t even get a responce from the Devs no matter how many times I apply (it\'s up to 10 now I think) but I see no reason to leave a perfectly viable and much needed project over some twelve-year-old squabbles.
Who\'s the bigger fool; the one who open\'s their useless mouth and attacks perfectly useful members of the community over a bad day or the one that lets it ruin their Hero?

[edit]Waithing for deletiong/closing at the will of...

If only you\'ve seen what I\'ve seen.

[verideon]

Originally posted by Valbrandr
So over the next 30 to 50 years XpYtZ9er (my goodness I have a hard time spelling your name even though it is only 5 letter )  I hope to see you around.

hmm I don\'t know who to thank for the trusty and very convenient things that you can do. they are called \'Copy\' and \'Paste\' do my trick and use that to copy people\'s names. that way people can\'t complain that you spelt it wrong .

[Kiern]

Hahaha.  I like this thread, though I have no idea what XyPtZ is saying in that last sentence.

Originally posted by zanzibar
If only you\'ve seen what I\'ve seen.

Oh please zanzibar, I can guarantee you a lot of people here have \"seen\" way more then you ever will.  Get over it.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kiern
Hahaha.  I like this thread, though I have no idea what XyPtZ is saying in that last sentence.

Originally posted by zanzibar
If only you\'ve seen what I\'ve seen.

Oh please zanzibar, I can guarantee you a lot of people here have \"seen\" way more then you ever will.  Get over it.

Your posts are usually to the point, but you have a tendancy to jump the gun on things.  I\'ve seen and experienced things in game that others have not, just as others have experienced things in game that I have not.  Is that not a fair assessment?  Given that it is a true statement, I might come to one conclusion based on what I know while someone else comes to another understanding based on different or contrasting information.  It isn\'t about bulk.  It isn\'t about knowing more or less than someone else.  It\'s merely about having a different set of experiences leading to a different set of inferences.

[XpYtZ]

I\'ll clarfy a couple things:
First I\'m not saying that there are no valid reasons for people leaving: school, a computer blowing up, just plain getting bored and wanting a change of scenery but I have seen a lot of people leave over the past two years and the majority have been over squabbles that could easily have been solved with a simple \"I\'m sorry.\"
If people would take even a second in those situations to consider the advice they have so often given others they would probably not leave.
Second, I myself have been treated with rudeness and distain in game by people that never come to the forums and have been refered to as a \'n00b\' by at least three people. Two guilds have asked me who the hell I was after I applied to join and, as I said in my first post, though I have applied multiple times I have never gotten any kind of a responce from the Developers. I\'ve even been verbally assulted, hard core by one on the IRC channel over a lack of knowledge that I never claimed to have. So I\'m not just blowing off about people not having reasons to get upset. I\'m saying that letting it ruin your day, life, Hero (PS character) is a mistake, not sometimes, always.
Thirdly, call me \'X\' it\'s a hell of a lot easier

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
Your posts are usually to the point, but you have a tendancy to jump the gun on things.  I\'ve seen and experienced things in game that others have not, just as others have experienced things in game that I have not.  Is that not a fair assessment?  Given that it is a true statement, I might come to one conclusion based on what I know while someone else comes to another understanding based on different or contrasting information.  It isn\'t about bulk.  It isn\'t about knowing more or less than someone else.  It\'s merely about having a different set of experiences leading to a different set of inferences.

It isn\'t about the individual experiences, it is what you gain from them.  Two people can have two totally different things happen to them, and yet reach the same conclusion.  And then if you are dealing with opinion rather then fact, two people can see the exact same thing and take a totally different perspective on something.

In other words, either you meant something else then what you stated right here...or your post was completely vapid, because no we aren\'t looking through your eyes and I think (most) everyone realizes that but thank you for stating so.

[derwoodly]

Agrees with what X said.

[Levski]

Maybe it\'s partly your own fault if you are getting fed up with  some of the players here.  No one is making you associate with them...  Digging anywhere will unearth unpleasant things.  However, if you know who you enjoy playing with, and play with them, you can almost always find a way to make even the worst situation fun.  There are plenty of people playing PS who just want to have fun with others, and really, that\'s the point of an MMORPG...

Also, a lot of people tend to come back .

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kiern
It isn\'t about the individual experiences, it is what you gain from them.  Two people can have two totally different things happen to them, and yet reach the same conclusion.  And then if you are dealing with opinion rather then fact, two people can see the exact same thing and take a totally different perspective on something.

In other words, either you meant something else then what you stated right here...or your post was completely vapid, because no we aren\'t looking through your eyes and I think (most) everyone realizes that but thank you for stating so.

*sigh*  I think you\'re missing the point here.  Besides, if I wanted to be really nasty I could just say that there is no truth beyond opinion.

Originally posted by XpYtZ
I\'ll clarfy a couple things:
First I\'m not saying that there are no valid reasons for people leaving: school, a computer blowing up, just plain getting bored and wanting a change of scenery but I have seen a lot of people leave over the past two years and the majority have been over squabbles that could easily have been solved with a simple \"I\'m sorry.\"
If people would take even a second in those situations to consider the advice they have so often given others they would probably not leave.
Second, I myself have been treated with rudeness and distain in game by people that never come to the forums and have been refered to as a \'n00b\' by at least three people. Two guilds have asked me who the hell I was after I applied to join and, as I said in my first post, though I have applied multiple times I have never gotten any kind of a responce from the Developers. I\'ve even been verbally assulted, hard core by one on the IRC channel over a lack of knowledge that I never claimed to have. So I\'m not just blowing off about people not having reasons to get upset. I\'m saying that letting it ruin your day, life, Hero (PS character) is a mistake, not sometimes, always.
Thirdly, call me \'X\' it\'s a hell of a lot easier

Could you PM me with the names of the individuals involved?

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
*sigh*  I think you\'re missing the point here.  Besides, if I wanted to be really nasty I could just say that there is no truth beyond opinion.

You always say this.  Care to try to explain exactly what I missed for once?  Because opinion versus fact had very little to do with what I said, and in no way proves your earlier point.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Kiern

Originally posted by zanzibar
*sigh*  I think you\'re missing the point here.  Besides, if I wanted to be really nasty I could just say that there is no truth beyond opinion.

You always say this.  Care to try to explain exactly what I missed for once?  Because opinion versus fact had very little to do with what I said, and in no way proves your earlier point.

People disagree because of differences in personal experiences.  It happens all the time.

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