Market developing: in a bad way.

[sesmi]

A player market is forming I\'ve noticed. But however, it revolves the ring of the past, which is a rare item, and markets that revolve around a rare item always turn out ugly. I sold one for 100,00 Tria and t was an apparent bargain. that is not how a player market should work.

In the best case scenario the market develops out of it, and the economy is healthy. Worst case scenario Is that we get an OOC economy that revolves around lust for rare items *cough runescape cough*

I am happy that a player economy is evolving but I\'m upset that it has to be this way  ;(

Another thing: i got muted for saying \"---- for sale!\" (can\'t remember what was for sale) because apparently that\'s how they talk in runescape. but isn\'t that how medieval merchants really talked? Why do i have to be so picky when i\'m just trying to sell things?

[hook]

Erm ...wasn\'t the Ring of the Past supposed to be bound with the player and not sellable?

I wouldn\'t know, I didn\'t earn one :/

[sesmi]

Originally posted by hook
Erm ...wasn\'t the Ring of the Past supposed to be bound with the player and not sellable?

I wouldn\'t know, I didn\'t earn one :/

evedently not because I sold one of mine ( I had 2 for some reason)

[Watcher]

I think they should become untradable, but wearable.

[Seytra]

I can only guess: you probably were muted for announcing it too often. This would be spam. Yes, in medieval times people would do that, but given the textual system we have to work with, this method cannot be simply copied 1:1. Instead, other means must be provided, like auction houses (special, closed areas that confince all biding, only those in the area will see it) and ebay-like ingame auctions (in order to compensate for RL time constraints).

Anyway, I think the ROTP issue is more or less completely OOC anyway, since the item itself is completely OOC (and thus shouldn\'t even exist, even if I had one). Yet, I haven\'t seen such an auction myself yet, so I think it is more or less an infrequent thing. What I see, however, is a player driven market for weapons. There are even two stores that I know of: The Hydlaa Outfitters (in Hydlaa) and The Community Of Vaalnor Shop (in Ojaveda). Both seem perfectly IC and perfectly desirable AFAICS, and they work without the highly questionable auction channel.

[sesmi]

Originally posted by Seytra
I can only guess: you probably were muted for announcing it too often. This would be spam.

I said it once. And I was selling a weapon of some kind not the ring.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by Seytra
I can only guess: you probably were muted for announcing it too often. This would be spam. Yes, in medieval times people would do that, but given the textual system we have to work with, this method cannot be simply copied 1:1. Instead, other means must be provided, like auction houses (special, closed areas that confince all biding, only those in the area will see it) and ebay-like ingame auctions (in order to compensate for RL time constraints).

Anyway, I think the ROTP issue is more or less completely OOC anyway, since the item itself is completely OOC (and thus shouldn\'t even exist, even if I had one). Yet, I haven\'t seen such an auction myself yet, so I think it is more or less an infrequent thing. What I see, however, is a player driven market for weapons. There are even two stores that I know of: The Hydlaa Outfitters (in Hydlaa) and The Community Of Vaalnor Shop (in Ojaveda). Both seem perfectly IC and perfectly desirable AFAICS, and they work without the highly questionable auction channel.

Now you\'re contradicting yourself.  It\'s in the game, the dev\'s made it, people want it, it has an artificial value, there is NOTHING out of character about it unless you MAKE and DEFINE it as out of character.

I, for one, will define this as completely in character and as part of the planeshift universe.  Of course, I can only define it as IC for myself, and if Seytra CHOOSES to define it as OOC then there\'s nothing anyone can do.

[Karyuu]

I disagree, Zanzibar. I, for one, can\'t find a way to explain Rings of the Past IC. They were given during the crystal migration, which was OOC. Of course people roleplay with the rings as if they were other objects (e.g., tokens from someone-or-other for such-and-such), but to give them such a ridiculously high value really does mess up the economy. They shouldn\'t be tradeable.

[Watcher]

Karyuu why can\'t you just say that the rings of the past  are bestowed by the Gods upon those who have done a service to the Gods

[Karyuu]

What service, Watcher? You can\'t present an idea without fully explaining it :)

[Watcher]

Every tale needs an enigma, I will quote from Tolkien in the subject \"And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are.\" The service could be anything.

[Karyuu]

Then you presume that everyone who traded in their crystals for tria would do some service for the Gods. My character certainly wouldn\'t ;)

[Watcher]

Just call it an enigma then, all things have enimgas why not this game?

[Karyuu]

Because even enigmas have to have some sense of logic to them. Calling \"I just woke up one day and there\'s this ring on my finger, and a ring on the fingers of all those I have known before...\" an enigma is rather silly.

[Watcher]

An enigma is something that cannot be explained

mystery: something that baffles understanding and cannot be explained; \"how it got out is a mystery\"; \"it remains one of nature\'s secrets\"

The ring being on your hand with no logical reason would be an enigma. It may be silly but its still an enigma.