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« on: February 05, 2006, 10:32:16 pm »
Hello all,
a special greeting to the DEV\'s
I know this is Beta and in Development.
BUT:
Could you please make an open anouncement if you change
SL-Scores or wipe weapons?
I have been killed twice by a mercenary that i usualy killed easy.
This is very anoying.

I like the game and the kind of communications in the game with other players.
There are other games that are technicaly much more developed,
including crafting, and very much more.
As an example try Eternal-Lands.
With that kind of information politics i don\'t think that you will attract players.

I think i will stay with PS for some time more,
but another such an expirience will make me turn my back on it.



OH, and keep an eye on EL-Homepage.
They have an own segment News and fill it with what belongs into it. :-o

Edit:
Maybe it would could to use the login-screen for information,
i saw your info at the PS-Homepage.
Edit end

Greetings
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 10:39:38 pm by a19183 »

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2006, 10:50:15 pm »
actually one word

pre-alpha

not beta.

and

tester first. player second.
may laanx frighten the shadow from my path.
hardly because the shadow built the lexx.
the shadow will frighten laanx from my path.

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2006, 10:56:34 pm »
Yeah, I would be nice if even a single posting were put up with a heading like \"sorry, you\'re going to be losing all your weapons today\".  But no, instead we get \"it\'s pre-alpha\", \"you knew weapons wipes were coming\", \"check your attitude\", etc,etc...

I love the game, I love the people playing, I love the devs for the great effort put into this game... but a little common courtesy of at least posting simple warning messages would be nice.   The other guy who complained about this is another thread just got shot down and had the thread closed.  Why?  In my opinion it\'s just plain rudeness.

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2006, 11:06:53 pm »
This didn\'t belong in Server Announcements section ;)

I too agree that warnings are generally nice, maybe a day in advance at most, but I also don\'t think that this is an issue large enough to warrant such reactions. A weapon wipe is something everyone knew was going to happen.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2006, 11:14:57 pm »
Ylikone,

You are a nice guy. I have met you in game (with my another character). Please do understand, it is said on the main web page, this game is a pre-alpha technical demo. Things like this have happened in the past, happen now, and will happen in the future.

Do not pay too much attention what your character has, but more what your character is about. Many of us know your character and we appreciate what you are doing in the game, regardless how much tria your character has or what weapons he got.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2006, 11:19:31 pm »
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Originally posted by Karyuu
This didn\'t belong in Server Announcements section ;)

I too agree that warnings are generally nice, maybe a day in advance at most, but I also don\'t think that this is an issue large enough to warrant such reactions. A weapon wipe is something everyone knew was going to happen.



I didn\'t know a weapon wipe was going to happen.  Granted, I\'ve only been here since the beginning of December, but I feel I\'ve gotten to know a lot of what\'s going on in the game.  I\'ve been waiting for a complete wipe (which never seems to come)... and instead we get unannounced mini wipes seemingly for the purposes of torture.  I mean, weapons over 10 slash have existed since I started in Dec.  Why let them go on for a length of time, let the players build themselves and their arsenal, then suddenly cut them down.

I think people are waiting for the big wipe.  Lots of little wipes during the wait process is cruel in my opinion.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2006, 11:20:35 pm »
But necessary.
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Smith: No, My Lord. I am attempting to conceal it.

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2006, 11:22:54 pm »
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Originally posted by Bereror
Do not pay too much attention what your character has, but more what your character is about. Many of us know your character and we appreciate what you are doing in the game, regardless how much tria your character has or what weapons he got.


This is the ironic part... I don\'t level.  I don\'t kill monsters.  (maybe a bit with my alt character)  So, I shouldn\'t even be complaining.  I am purposefully trying to make my character likable, as that is something I can retain when the wipe comes.  

I am just imagining this from the point of view of somebody playing daily to level up and get the next best weapons... it must terribly frustrating.  

Maybe I should just shut-up now.  :)

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2006, 12:15:21 am »
So that\'s where my weapons went  :( they were a \"welcome\" present from someone I met on my third day and I was pretty upset that I had \"lost\" them somehow .... I feel much better now  :]

Except I haven\'t got anything to fight with now, but I\'ll live, not for long, but DR is a nice place.

Just out of Interest, were all weapons over slash 10 wiped ?

 :rolleyes:  edit - double word deleted.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2006, 12:20:43 am »
Why announce somethink what is obvious?
This is roleplaying game.
RP games have realistic world to support the rp as much as possible.
The deleted weapons weren\'t realistic and consistent part of the world.
Result: elimination of the weapon element. Simple as that

You probably was playing too many pseudo-MMORPGS which  aren\'t really about rp and you could learn from nowhere what exactly rp is about.
Am I right? :)

If you would be warned, you would sell all your weapons to NPC merchant to gain money and some would start begging/complaining/threatening they leave game^^. I gues it\'s all deal about the money, which you gained so easy and can earn it again, what make me wonder why you still care about it :s



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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2006, 12:20:58 am »
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Originally posted by Ekusile Feyorel
Just out of Interest, were all weapons over slash 10 wiped ?


So it\'s been reported, and so it appears, yes :)
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2006, 12:34:21 am »
OK Karyuu thankyou (nice pic btw ... oops sorry ... wrong thread).

I agree with Niko, announcements just result in mass selling and scamming of characters not aware.

a19183 - I played the game you are referring to for quite a while, and you have to agree with Niko, the server announcement forum was full of \" ... if you do this I\'ll leave\" type threads.

The only thing I would like to see is maybe an announcement on the forums after the change/wipe has been made, so everyone is aware of what happened and why. But the way I see it, the Devs have more important issues to work on, and losing items/stats in the name of progress won\'t keep me awake at night.

Note for Devs and Mods - keep up the good work, you won\'t please all of the people all of the time.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2006, 03:38:30 am »
pre-alpha?? Anyone actually know what that means? Thats the game before the first version and wait we are already playing CB for over a year now.

*shakes his head*

Edit: Even if the game isn\'t done yet the community is already four years old. You can hardly say those people are just testers after such a long time of contribution.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2006, 03:41:11 am »
Early alpha seems to make more sense now.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2006, 03:47:49 am »
Pre alpha in my eyes is all the work you do before putting it all togehter and before you as \"player\"would be able to do anything normally.

Now I have walked around in MB and I don\'t know what it was like in the beginning but being able to walk around like that it\'s already an alpha.

Ofcourse CB isn\'t nearly close to a beta atm so it\'s simply alpha 2, but it\'s definately way past the \"we\'re not sure if it\'s an alpha now\" with being able to do things such as interact with NPCs and fighting

PPS: could the tittle be changed? :P
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