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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #120 on: September 06, 2006, 03:39:02 am »
What if you found out that everything bad in sombodies elses life is only able to be connected to you? What if by just living you are a pox to the person you love and chearish?

I'd probably kick myself in the balls then yell at myself to grow up and get some perspective.
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« Reply #121 on: September 06, 2006, 04:33:56 am »
Some feelings are inconvenient.

Lord, i gotta put that in my Sig...

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« Reply #122 on: September 06, 2006, 06:17:37 pm »
you gain some you loose some

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out of girlfriend error. find new girlfriend.
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« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2006, 01:50:52 am »
Finally, read through the bloody thing. Now, onto my input.

First of, I am absolutely amazed by how much you remind me of myself when I was younger and (more) naive. A lot of the same crap happened to me that happened to you.  I liked a girl, I tried professing my feelings, got kicked in the head while trying to jump ladders. Turns out, she only saw me as a friend, but the guy a year ahead of me who smoke and drank was seen in a different light. Eventually, I started getting the feeling that she felt uncomfortable being around me, so I slowly cut off contact with her as much as I could. I saw this as an attempt to try to make her life better, and hoped some day I could feel nothing for her in order to cause her no more discomfort.

Anyways... yeah, I grew up (somewhat) since then. I realize now it was nothing but a stupid crush, and I bet you will come to that eventually. And about your post saying that we all are biased in thinking that love hardly ever exists in the teen years, I give you this to think on. If someone is saying this, they are probably past their teen years. They have probably gone through this crap already. I've heard of a few examples of people growing up and marrying their high school sweetheart, but this is rare.

Second, you seem way too idealistic. She was an angel? You knew her better than anyone? This all sounds like lined from a fairy tale to me. I used to be a romantic too, but then I realized that there is no place in the world for one. I’m not trying to insult you or make you feel bad. I am trying to help save you from a lot of self inflicted misery that I went through. The world is a dark, shallow place, and maintaining your current outlook on life will ultimately lead to a lot of disappointment.

For the one who said men and women are pretty much the same (can’t remember who said that, or where) you are mostly correct. Males and females are very similar biologically, with small differences in muscle strength along with primary/secondary sex characteristics. The big difference comes from the gender roles established in our various societies. In US society, men are expected to repress emotion, not wince at pain, be confrontationally and emotionally unavailable, and energetically seek out sex. I doubt any would question the final point, in part by the fact that male virginity carries a large negative stigma along with it, while usually female virginity is praised. Females on the other hand, are expected to devote great energy to their physical appearance, be emotionally available, and pretend to be innocent and morally superior. This last part causes females to say that they look primarily for aspects besides appearance, such as humor, intelligence, empathy, etc., when looking for a boyfriend/lover/spouse. This however is false, as females are just as shallow as men. I recall one study in which subjects were put into a speed dating setting, given a minute to meet a person, then pulled aside and interviewed by the psychologists. When asked what the subjects (both males and females) first noticed in their dates, all but a handful said physical appearance. So, where does this leave US society? We are left with a society that expects men to be a#####es, and females to be hypocrites. I know I will likely get a lot of angry posts because of the previous statements, so let me tell you a story to reinforce my statement. When I was in high school, one time this guy I know suggested that I kill myself. His girlfriend was right next to him, and could hear it perfectly, and even scolded him for it. Even so, Such a suggestion, jokingly or not, is a horrible thing to do. Did the girlfriend leave him because of this display of incredible insensitivity? No. They stayed together. People don’t give a d### about kindness or personality. If they did, why would the less attractive nerdier people in high school who are kind, humorous, intelligent, and all that crap be constantly shot down, while the alcoholic, smoker jocks that are cruel and insensitive get all the girls?

Now, NS, (nightstalian) mind if I call you NS? Great. In your posts, you spoke quite loftily about this girl, describing her as angelic even. In my opinion, this might have been part of your downfall. For one, you put her up on a pedestal, placing her high above you. If you told her any of these things, she may have begun to get the feeling that she deserved all those compliments, and therefore agreed that she was better than you. If she thought she was this angelic picture of beauty, and you were so beneath her, why should she go out with you? If she is so wonderful she could hook herself a fish much bigger than you, so why settle for you? In my opinion, you might have made yourself too available. Humans seem to naturally seek out the things that are more difficult to obtain, probably thinking the grass is greener on the other side or some similar mentality.

There is another thing concerning your lofty descriptions. If you said those things to her, without ever dating her or anything, you may have creeped her out a bit. If someone suddenly walked up to you and professed their undying love for you, you would probably be taken back by it. This is just speculation though, so I could be wrong.

I hope that some of this may be able to help you in some way NS. I doubt it will help your current situation, but perhaps future endeavors. Me? I’ve chosen to be single. Dating seems like too much of a headache from what I’ve heard 

BTW: I’ve never seen that Ladder Theory before. Thanks for posting it.

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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2006, 02:08:57 am »
I rarely post without reading the whole thread, but i have to leave for work... I'll likely read the rest when i get home & post more... but the last post regarding gender roles & stereotypes reminded me of a study about infidelity that found when asked about cheating there was a much greater % of males who said they did, and virtually no females...
The conclusion of this study:
It was determined that men are statistically far more likely to ADMIT when they cheated.

i'll add more later, but that bit of trivia fascinated me...

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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2006, 08:50:50 am »
People don’t give a d### about kindness or personality. If they did, why would the less attractive nerdier people in high school who are kind, humorous, intelligent, and all that crap be constantly shot down, while the alcoholic, smoker jocks that are cruel and insensitive get all the girls?



I think it's something called the frog prince syndrome.
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« Reply #126 on: September 09, 2006, 09:13:09 am »
The cure to all this is simple.... Money.

Money buys everything.

A girl who can be rated a 10 usually won't go out with a guy whose a 4.

And visa-versa, unless drunk or desperate lol. :o , yes i said it, i know, but it's true lol.

Money though, will make up for such a gap.

Is it philosophical, ethical, or moral?

No...

But sadly, it's the truth about the human race.

Money drives certain people, i hate it, but it needs to be said.

If you really want this girl, pull a Bill gates, and buy her lol.

By the way, girls who can be bought.... usually arn't the best, so read the warning label carefully and decide the risks/advantages before you purchase. :woot:

lol

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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #127 on: September 09, 2006, 10:36:56 am »
Not all women are the same.  :thumbdown:
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« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2006, 08:59:31 pm »
Been there. Done that.
Killed it.
Refuse to ever bother trying again.

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« Reply #129 on: September 11, 2006, 04:40:38 am »
Not all women are the same.  :thumbdown:

You are probably right. There surely are exceptions to our generalizations. The problem is identifying who those exceptions are. The reason I don't like the fact that exceptions exists, is because then everyone thinks they are one of those exceptions. People like to think they are unique individuals and perhaps better than others. This means that many people like to believe they are exceptions to the rules, even if they aren't. If all those who believed themselves to be exceptions were, then there would be no normal, as nearly everyone would be an exception. Then, it would be an exception if someone believed they were normal. Therefore, all those who claim to be exceptions as well as those who are claimed to be exceptions are probably not.

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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #130 on: September 11, 2006, 04:52:30 am »
Alrighty...

Perhaps the real problem here is that he looked for relationship advice on an internet message board dedicated to online gaming.
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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #131 on: September 12, 2006, 04:05:36 pm »
Lol this happened to me before. I found out the best way for me was to just go ahead and say it. I mean, lets face it, you only live once. And It also stops you woundering or worrying about it. :thumbup:

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« Reply #132 on: October 06, 2006, 05:17:05 am »
 :'(  the end of my friendship with her eamil.
*****=not real name hide her idendity.

To:*************@yahoo.com


Subjct:Friendship please read.


Dear ****** ******** ******,

      I'm sorry if you read this before I could get you alone and talk with you.But you write letters and I type emails, so it is all good.


  I'm telling you striaght out that our friendship is over. You can read the rest of this letter if you want, if you want reasons and it is not because I hate you.
 I should have relized last year what type of person you are, seeing how you blamed me for all of your problems. I'm not saying I'm perfect far from it, because of Arogance and my annoying nature.
Anywho, it boils down to this your conceited, shallow, and you don't trust anyone but yourself; I was made a mat to long and now I'm standing up for myself, you were right to end our friendship last year, for the wrong reasons seeing how you cast me away for caring, trusting, and loving you as a friend should. I forgive you for that and of the pity friendship you decided to make, but listen I don't need your pity. So guess what you get your wish after all, I'll stop being your "friend", unfourtunatly there is no "Fairy-God-Mother" to cancel your wish, so your stuck with it wheather you are happy or sad is your problem.
 To surmerize it all, you where to d@mn stupid, and immature to understand love. Two, you refused to trust me. Three, you could care less what happened to other people. Four, I was treated unjustly by you. Five, you took me for granted. Six, I couldn't stand it any longer.

 You lost a friend, you lost his respect, you lost his trust. I don't hate you, and I don't think I feel anything for you either. I refuse to blame you for the problems in my life, though you did blamed me for yours. But, think of this as the offical I forgive you letter.
 I'll say hi, and sit where I normaly do, but I stress again be prepared to be shut out of my life.

Sincerely,
   Dillon Moore
I am a Chirstian
So I believe in Predestitnation, and God giving us a \"free will\"
So what do I believe? I believe life is just a huge RPG

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« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2006, 05:29:02 am »
That's a horrible letter.  What were you trying to accomplish?  It seems like you were just trying to hurt her.
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Re: Best Friend Syndrome
« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2006, 05:25:35 pm »
That's a horrible letter. What were you trying to accomplish? It seems like you were just trying to hurt her.

Maybe revenge as she hurt him in the past?