I wanna see advisor-points!..

[Janner]

 To find out your AP go on IRC and ask nicely a Dev, and if you do so nicely you will be told your Points and position.

 Unless it has changed I have about 800 maybe a little-less and was top adviser, and I to would like to see MY AP in MY stats box, were they used to be don't give a fig about stats page were all can see JUST wont to know how I am doing.

 I should not have to ask on IRC, i fell this is degrading and takes away the pleaser i get from helping Players. I also fell the hype about bad advice and grabbing points was brought about by the new penalties for challenge ect.

 P.S. I have timed the length of time a request for help. It is 3 minuets so no need to grab.

[Peacer]

Before you start giving advises on the help channel, keep in mind that the help channel is monitored by other advisors and also by GMs.

only the first question is monitored by other gm's and advisors... all the other questions will not be seen

[Karyuu]

Going on IRC is "degrading," Janner? It takes away from your pleasure of helping players? Rather strange phrases to use. Will knowing some points make you feel better about yourself, or the knowledge that you are making someone's time in-game easier through giving out quality answers? If you feel it's the former, I cannot help but feel disappointment, personally.

I also fell the hype about bad advice and grabbing points was brought about by the new penalties for challenge ect.

I don't see how invite spam penalties relate to bad advice and point-grabbing. Would you be willing to explain?

[Janner]

Why should i have to ask to find out what my points are ? had to ask several times and mostly no reply. So yes it is degrading.

 Simply if you got penalized you lose 10 AP. Some players hate being minus so will do anything to get them back, or should i explain more.

[Karyuu]

People have a lot of points - some hidden, some visible. Just because it involves you does not mean that -everything- must be visible, accessible, and right there for your constant viewing pleasure. You are supposed to help because you are a nice person, buttom line - which I know that you are. Ignore advisor points - you get no message about them any more, so consider them nonexistant. We don't want people helping others and somehow "keeping score." So consider it this way - no one has any advisor points.

And since players don't have a way of keeping count of them, being penalized and losing some won't let them know just how much "minus" they are. I've seen advising improve after this change. Bad answers, whenever caught, are corrected by GMs, and if they continue further actions will be taken. But the amount of those bad answers has decreased.

[Janner]

In the main I agree that bad advise is on the decline, but if i wont to look at my stats and privately gloat were is the harm ?

 I have all ready said i don't give a fig about public stats page just would like to know without asking.

[Karyuu]

Because gloating about advisor points is bad :} You're helping people - not racking up points.

[Syilph]

IMO the advisor points should be only stored in a database that players don't have acces to. That might prevent competing just for advisor points and might raise the quality of advices.

[Janner]

Because gloating about advisor points is bad :} You're helping people - not racking up points.

 Your right i am as Janner as Rennaj and as Girecol, so as you see its not important to me haw many i have, i would just like to know with out asking. O by the way a few others i have advised with as well, not really the actions of a person concerned with racking up points.

[zorbels]

Not knowing the advisor points one "racks up" has saved alot of players headache of having to race to give advice. Not rushing means better more well rounded advise. I really see no issue here.

Janner if you want to keep some sort of tally, you could always do it yourself , if it is important to you to keep track. I mean you pretty much know right from wrong in game, so everytime you answer a question ... mark it down. Vola, now you don't have to ask anyone. 

[Janner]

Not knowing the advisor points one "racks up" has saved alot of players headache of having to race to give advice. Not rushing means better more well rounded advise. I really see no issue here.

Janner if you want to keep some sort of tally, you could always do it yourself , if it is important to you to keep track. I mean you pretty much know right from wrong in game, so everytime you answer a question ... mark it down. Vola, now you don't have to ask anyone. 

 Never been a race for me, never rush to answer and if someone gets there before me good, I always answer as best i can never did any difference , except once and got pounced on by a GM grins.

 Sounds good but don't always have the time to do it smiles.

[zanzibar]

My most common question is "How Do I get out of the Death Realm?"

Which happens to be my favorite simply because trying to explain it via chat is almost impossible anyway.

You aren't supposed to answer that question.  It's like giving a quest solution.

To find out your AP go on IRC and ask nicely a Dev, and if you do so nicely you will be told your Points and position... I should not have to ask on IRC, i fell this is degrading and takes away the pleaser i get from helping Players.

Helping people should feel good whether or not you get points.

Devs shouldn't be giving out such information because it defeats the purpose.  Shame on those devs.

[Janner]

To find out your AP go on IRC and ask nicely a Dev, and if you do so nicely you will be told your Points and position... I should not have to ask on IRC, i fell this is degrading and takes away the pleaser i get from helping Players.

Helping people should feel good whether or not you get points.

 Yet again you show your uncanny ability to twist things, try reading the rest of my posts, even a moron can see i don't care about the points, i just wont to see them in my privet in game Stats box were they used to be, duel points are there so why not AP.

[Karyuu]

He's not twisting anything... Don't be so quick to jump at the chance to say something mean, Janner - even though you may dislike someone :\

Enough bickering, to everyone.

[zorbels]

The reasons why have been stated in this thread Janner. I don't understand why you don't see them. Having the advisor points gone is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Why is it so important to see these points? What real purpose does it serve to open up your stats box and see these points? Am I missing something?

[Edit]     Sorry karyuu, I posted after you. I am truly curious as to why Janner is so interested in these points and I am not trying to quarrel or keep a quarrel going ... just so this is clear.