Are we alone ? Lets find out.

[LARAGORN]

I'm not going to watch this, Xordan's summary is enough for me and I've seen enough "Aliens are out there" programs to last a lifetime. There's no proof that we're not alone, but it's foolish to think that in a universe so vast, with so many galaxies and stars and planets, that none but earth would have evolved to support life. Likely we'll both be long gone by  the time the distance between us could have been travelled.

This is not just another "beam me up scotty", "i've been abducted" movies, this is a world press confrence. The pannel is 21 high ranking officials from many areas of the air force, army, norad, navy and more. It is the first time in history that respected people with respected proffessions have come forward together, asking congress to here them and release the clasified information.

[Xordan]

When was that held btw? I saw something somewhere which makes me think "2001". If that's the case, then not much has happened the last 5 years.

[Akaye]

The only thing I have to add to this topic is it is pretty ignorant to think we are the only planet with life. I don't believe or disbelieve in aliens. I will believe when I see with my own eye's but until then will keep the mentality that there maybe life out there.

[LARAGORN]

When was that held btw? I saw something somewhere which makes me think "2001". If that's the case, then not much has happened the last 5 years.

Here it explains why nothing has happend in five years. Simply put, journalists wanted to investigate and report but the higher ups always stopped them. It isnt new news that the media is controlled, there may be the small paper here and there that isnt, but their voice is small. There is alot of info at www.DisclosureProject.com, that keeps the 'trailer park' crap out of it. Whether you believe or not, the site is worth a look.

[Quitarias]

personaly i got tired of watching the movie and closed it
but i still think that there realy are other lifeforms far away it is a proven theory that space is infinity so then how can in infinity exist only one kind of creatures does make some sense

[lordraleigh]

Type "Area 51" at Google Earth search button...

It is interesting to see that the "secret" organization that supposedly cover up their existence since Roswell incident called Majestic 12 have even its own site: www.mj12.com and thus exists. Not sure what they really do as they neither confirm nor deny anything.

[Kalika]

ahaha i didnt watch it but i beleive in aliens

[Xordan]

personaly i got tired of watching the movie and closed it
but i still think that there realy are other lifeforms far away it is a proven theory that space is infinity so then how can in infinity exist only one kind of creatures does make some sense

No it isn't a proven theory that space is infinite.
Firstly you can't have a proven theory. It's not a theory if it's proven, it's a law.
Secondly, nobody has proven that space is infinite, far from it. Where do you get your 'facts'?

However, the rest of your logic makes sense, assuming I'm working it out right. In a universe so huge (I would guess at 1000000000000000000 (billion*billion) stars at any given time), what are the chances that we're the only life.

[Datruth]

The only thing I have to add to this topic is it is pretty ignorant to think we are the only planet with life. I don't believe or disbelieve in aliens. I will believe when I see with my own eye's but until then will keep the mentality that there maybe life out there.

I don't think it's ignorant Akaye, and i'm with a small minority that feels there is no life outside earth.

I'm a Biology Major, going into Microbiology soon, and life is very sensitive.

People talk all the time about how life thrives where we think it shouldn't, but you notice even these creatures needed things that are VERY hard to obtain elsewhere.

The size of the planet, whether it's near a sun, presence of water, the atmosphere, Oxygen-Co2 level, all are things we take into account.

People have thought from the start that we'd have found life by now, because of the Trillions of Stars there are, but when we studied the conditions on the few planets near those stars, as well as the size of the planets, we all seemed to lose hope.

I've lost all hope, and i feel we will never find intelligent Life outside our own, i'd love to find it just as much as anyone here, it would be great to wake up and see the papers saying Aliens have landed at white house and are holding talks.

I'd be thrilled.

But from what i know thus far, Life is too sensitive a thing to be generated, and that Earth is One of a Kind.

~~Datruth

P.S: I'll watch the videos and comment on Their content soon.

[Shakilai]

I think it's extremely egocentric to think that ours is the only planet with life in the universe. While it's true that there are nearly countless of factors that have to be "just right," our universe is absolutely vast, and our abilities to search through it for life have begun to expand only recently. We can in no way say that just because nothing has been found among the centimeters that we have searched (in the scheme of things), we can make any sort of conclusion on the subject.

Besides, there's an incredible difference between finding alien microbes on a planet within a distant solar system, and hearing "The aliens have landed!" in your local paper.

[Datruth]

I think it's extremely egocentric to think that ours is the only planet with life in the universe. While it's true that there are nearly countless of factors that have to be "just right," our universe is absolutely vast, and our abilities to search through it for life have begun to expand only recently. We can in no way say that just because nothing has been found among the centimeters that we have searched (in the scheme of things), we can make any sort of conclusion on the subject.

Besides, there's an incredible difference between finding alien microbes on a planet within a distant solar system, and hearing "The aliens have landed!" in your local paper.

I hate that cop out... "Our Universe is Vast"

MOST OF IT is just empty space lol

The only parts we are looking for is a particular type of star, with a particular type of planet, a particular Distance away, with a particular atmosphere, and you get the picture.

When you do that.

I say we have maybe a Billion or Less candidates, then when you get REALLY intrinsic,  you have maybe 1 million or so candidates.

These numbers are pure speculation on my part, they are here just to show you my comparison of Given and Result.

IF you truly look at how many planets have candidates for life, you will see the number isn't as big as you think.

So no.... the universe being BIG or even HUGE, has nothing to do with this, it's the Planets we're looking for.

~~Datruth

[Shakilai]

"Cop out" from what, exactly? You seem very eager to suggest that we are somehow special in this wide world of ours, but I disagree with such a stance. Although the numbers you provide are "pure speculation" as you so kindly pointed out, I can share with you numbers that have been calculated in a more ...serious manner. Are you familiar with the Drake Equation?

Unfortunately, the limitations of current technology mean that only giant planets (like Jupiter) have so far been detected, and smaller, rocky planets similar to Earth remain for the most part out of sight. Finding planets like Earth could take a while.

[Kalika]

The only thing I have to add to this topic is it is pretty ignorant to think we are the only planet with life. I don't believe or disbelieve in aliens. I will believe when I see with my own eye's but until then will keep the mentality that there maybe life out there.

I don't think it's ignorant Akaye, and i'm with a small minority that feels there is no life outside earth.

I'm a Biology Major, going into Microbiology soon, and life is very sensitive.

People talk all the time about how life thrives where we think it shouldn't, but you notice even these creatures needed things that are VERY hard to obtain elsewhere.

The size of the planet, whether it's near a sun, presence of water, the atmosphere, Oxygen-Co2 level, all are things we take into account.

People have thought from the start that we'd have found life by now, because of the Trillions of Stars there are, but when we studied the conditions on the few planets near those stars, as well as the size of the planets, we all seemed to lose hope.

I've lost all hope, and i feel we will never find intelligent Life outside our own, i'd love to find it just as much as anyone here, it would be great to wake up and see the papers saying Aliens have landed at white house and are holding talks.

I'd be thrilled.

But from what i know thus far, Life is too sensitive a thing to be generated, and that Earth is One of a Kind.

~~Datruth

P.S: I'll watch the videos and comment on Their content soon.

ahahah but we examine this all from earths perspecitve and earths physics. things could be radically different somewhere else. and there are more galxies than this one that we have no idea how to aplply physics properly to it

i know nothing about this stuff other than an occasional reading of "quintessence" but i definately think its possible

[Datruth]

Kalika, i'm fairly sure the Natural Laws of our Universe remain the Same regardless of what Galaxy we are in.

It's not a question of Misinformation in my opinon.

It's a question of Hope, Those who hope for E.T, and those who don't.

Both have numbers on their side to back it up, but as i stated in my first post, i've lost hope in this matter.

~~Datruth

[Kalika]

....if we lived on another planet would every scientific law apply there?

i dont know, i dont like to assume that the rules for life here are the same for there, wherever there is...

but i dunnos, whatever makes people happy in what they believe works then