NPC using an expletive?

[Malfini]

I have noticed that a certain NPC will under a certain circumstance refer to the person talking to them as a "bugger".
I am aware that in many forms of English this word is considered an expletive. The meaning of the word in many contexts is "sodomy", "sodomize", or "sodomite". I thought it would be best to let some GM's or developers that might read this know.

[Coneitic]

or you could just take it as you being a bug....

[Janner]

or you could just take it as you being a bug....

 OR you could say the game is promoting the use of bad words.

[Malfini]

or you could just take it as you being a bug....

 OR you could say the game is promoting the use of bad words.

Yes, I agree with Janner. The PlaneShift official rules forbid people from using obscene language. The NPC's aren't people obviously, but it seems that this NPC's wording could be a little better.

*Edit*
I saw a new player not too long ago get banned for 7 days for BASICALLY calling someone what a "bugger" is.
This NPC though calls people "bugger"s and before now it seems to have gone unchallenged. 

[Karyuu]

I saw a new player not too long ago get banned for 7 days for BASICALLY calling someone what a "bugger" is.

I find that highly unlikely, and would like to hear more of the circumstances of the supposed ban as you think it to be. We don't ban players unless they are using obvious offensive language repeatedly, so there is more than likely some misunderstanding there.

I've never heard of "bugger" being an expletive, and have used it myself numerous times to either mean someone annoying, or as synonym to "critter."

Is this nitpicking or do you indeed feel that it's going to cause players' heads to explode in sheer anger?

*edit*

I've also checked the definition from dictionary.com, and while it appears that there is a vulgar definition, it's not the only definition - and as so far this is the very first instance I hear of "bugger" being offensive, I would hope that you can switch your mentality and go for the other interpretation.

[Janner]

I saw a new player not too long ago get banned for 7 days for BASICALLY calling someone what a "bugger" is.

I find that highly unlikely, and would like to hear more of the circumstances of the supposed ban as you think it to be. We don't ban players unless they are using obvious offensive language repeatedly, so there is more than likely some misunderstanding there.

I've never heard of "bugger" being an expletive, and have used it myself numerous times to either mean someone annoying, or as synonym to "critter."

Is this nitpicking or do you indeed feel that it's going to cause players' heads to explode in sheer anger?

*edit*

I've also checked the definition from dictionary.com, and while it appears that there is a vulgar definition, it's not the only definition - and as so far this is the very first instance I hear of "bugger" being offensive, I would hope that you can switch your mentality and go for the other interpretation.

 First and foremost, I am a parent, and as such do not approve of bad words, also this is a game that anyone on the net can play, so a little research into names and words, that are going to be used in game please. Second, don't know about you, but will not even let my son [18) use that word or any other word, that could mean a swear word, IT is called teaching your children to behave properly.

[Karyuu]

I think this is an over-the-top reaction. I am in no way going to filter "bugger" out of the forums, and as such, I do not expect it to get filtered out in-game. There are plenty of words that anyone from any corner of the world can point to as offensive, but then we'd be filtering out all sorts of things that don't make sense.

"Bugger" is a valid, informal term. If you believe that your children should avoid using it, this is your decision as a parent which I will respect - however, until this word gets children warnings in public school systems and disappears from PG-rated features, I wouldn't expect it to be removed.

Here's a wiki-link for you to explore.

[Xordan]

I'd also like to point out, that any parent who doesn't let their kid use a word like 'bugger' probably also wouldn't let them play a violent game like PS, unless teaching kids that killing things is a good thing these days. Same for a person who finds it offensive playing. So I also think it's a bit of a over-reaction considering the genre.

[Janner]

I'd also like to point out, that any parent who doesn't let their kid use a word like 'bugger' probably also wouldn't let them play a violent game like PS, unless teaching kids that killing things is a good thing these days. Same for a person who finds it offensive playing. So I also think it's a bit of a over-reaction considering the genre.

 The reason I do not allow my children to use bad words is simple, my in-laws are very devout Christians, and would be horrified if one of my children swore, also from little acorns, a big tree will grow, meaning if you let them get away with little things , they will expand to bigger and more offensive words.

[Xordan]

But violence is ok? I respect however you bring up your kids and for whatever reasons, but I think we should do things for the majority rather than the more extreme cases.

[Janner]

But violence is ok? I respect however you bring up your kids and for whatever reasons, but I think we should do things for the majority rather than the more extreme cases.

  We all need a little outlet.

[ThomPhoenix]

First and foremost, I am a parent, and as suck do not approve of bad words,

Just had to laugh at that

[Eublepharis]

First and foremost, I am a parent, and as suck do not approve of bad words, also this is a game that anyone on the net can play, so a little research into names and words, that are going to be used in game please. Second, dont know about you, but will not even let my son [18) use that word or any other word, that could mean a swear word, IT is called teaching your children to behave properly.
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*gets in position...*

*Eublephairs transforms himself in a caring African American mother of 12*

I am a parent, just like janner, and I am very upset by how your game is teaching my children to use inappropriate words.  I like janner and the others in this thread never use any obscene word in my house, actually, we use "no" spoken words at all.  I was so sick of people cussing, that I forced my children to use sign language and I want all the developers, GM's, and players to start using sign language in the game for the sake of my 12 children, and while you are at, please take away the fighting (what is that teaching anyway?) and remove the breasts from the female characters, my boys stare at them for hours.  Please, think of the children...

[ThomPhoenix]

Nice one Eublepharis

I personally can't see how anyone could be offended by the word "bugger".
You're bugging me.
That's a bug.
Bugger off.

Yeah, I can see how someone could be offended by that...

* ThomPhoenix hands everyone a freshly plucked nitpick.

[Nurahk]

And, more importantly than all this!

Toda looks at me odd, I think she's implying something ...

I demand that her eyes be striped away!