Property of Elements

[Kaugor]

i was wondering if the element atoms in PS were the same in RL. Or does the PS world have a whole table of elements on its own?

example: H2O - 2 atoms of Hydrogen, 1 atom of Oxygen  (would this be the exact same in PS?)

[steuben]

assuming they have discovered chemisty like we have yes.

but... they haven't so the elements are actually quite different.

[emeraldfool]

That's a good question, but Stu's right in that it's of no real concern to your character.

Sure, maybe there's some cool unique metals or something they'll implement later on, but the molecular make-up of that metal isn't important in a world where physics is not only unknown territory, but it's also systematically screwed over by the game mechanics and setting

[Parallo]

It is of concern to his character.

[emeraldfool]

It is of concern to his character.

Unless his character is a physicist from the early 1900s, I doubt it...

[Parallo]

He is a Scholar and is researching the various things that make up the world around us.

[emeraldfool]

He is a Scholar and is researching the various things that make up the world around us.

There's no possible way you could observe and identify the various elemental make-up of various things without some kind of electron microscope.

And even if you did have some way of doing that, I'm sorry but it's just way too OOC to have people running around talking about hydrogen atoms and oxygen atoms in a medieval game.

[Parallo]

Prehaps not elements but one can still look at things and say thats zinc, thats wood, thats steel. See elemental is not a great word for it but I think he is researching the physical properties of things. That doesn't require a microscope. Also the various terms he has thus far are totally different to RL materials.

[emeraldfool]

Prehaps not elements but one can still look at things and say thats zinc, thats wood, thats steel. See elemental is not a great word for it but I think he is researching the physical properties of things. That doesn't require a microscope. Also the various terms he has thus far are totally different to RL materials.

He's asking "If the element atoms in PS were the same in RL".

I said that isn't relevant.

You said it was.


Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me... Beyond the initial question that I answered I don't think it really matters what he really means...

[Parallo]

Well when one is researching something in an RP and IC way would he not need to know OOC what its even remotely like because game mechanics will certainly not tell us.

[emeraldfool]

Well when one is researching something in an RP and IC way would he not need to know OOC what its even remotely like because game mechanics will certainly not tell us.

I fail to see how the atomic structure of something would qualify as 'remote' knowledge. Real researchers in medieval times did without that knowledge...

[Parallo]

For all we know PS steel floats. Can we test that in game?

[emeraldfool]

For all we know PS steel floats. Can we test that in game?

We're talking about whether PS' chart of periodic elements conform to that of real life's.

That isn't really relavent to whether PS steel floats or not, and even if it was, it wouldn't matter, because your character doesn't know squat about periodic elements, so you shouldn't either.

[Parallo]

If we understand OOCly how things work in the PS world, ie. the properties of it's elements, then we can begin to predict the results of IC experiments. Does that not make sense to you?

[Idoru]

hmmm, you dont need an electron microscope to study elements, marie curie didnt have one. Its all down to theorhetical calculations and original theories when it comes to things like this. The amount of atoms and molecules theorized by people are vast, the amount that exist and have been created could be counted on 10 of your two's hands. anyway, what a pointless conversatiion. Imagine PS is at the stage of Alchemists and  they are wondering how to convert lead to gold wiithout the help of a nuclear plant or particle accelerator.......

..... or gold to lead, I certainly know what is more common in PS, imagine using gold as the flashing on your houses roof