Bug Tracker Wars

[lordraleigh]

[Post removed for bickering.  If you have >1 quote in your post (let alone 10), you're probably bickering.]

[neko kyouran]

*sighs*

I believe the first thing I said was I wasn't trying to make person attacks, no?

No matter, if you want to take it that way, I guess you're free to do so.  All I was trying to do was open your eyes a bit and try to get you to realise what type of attitude many other forum members have towards you and why. 

But, whatever.  May your life be merry.

[ThomPhoenix]

Soon we'll at least be able to delete/edit messages like those. And kick. And ban. And revert all access.
Fun stuff.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Oy i missed all of that . . .

The unseen thing going on here is evident when Gherph says "I am sick of your sh*t man . . ."

The preceeding week he had been treating me as a customer service agent through irc, many queries daily etc. I was frustrated with him already. When you post to bug tracker try to be specific enough to provide context. Each npc has hundreds of things that they say when someone is too vague it makes it very hard to pinpoint the error and fix it.

The thing that made me post this here was that I simply did not want to be treated like that again in the future. I wanted other players to see the kinds of difficulties we face in the pursuit of making planeshift great.

[Narure]

"I am shit of your sh*t man . . ."

Might want to edit that. I think the issue here is mearly respect. People don't seem to understand that its not their game but the Devs so if they want to play it, guess who you have to suck up to.

[bilbous]

You don't have to suck up to anyone, you just need to be civil.

[Narure]

artistic licence.

[Idoru]

Why is it that when a post is normally removed that the whole tread is cleaned up to remove replies to the post that was removed but in this thread all the replies  to LR's posts remain?

I  have no doubt that he/she is being a pain in the ass and bickering, but I dont see the point of leaving the responses and see even less point in adding the remarks into the removed posts.

I am certain that everyone can agree that Gherph over-stepped the mark (IMO he was a complete and total **** [imagine twit with some different letters ]). Why does this post even exist in the 1st place, it seems entirely pointless. I personally dont use the bugtracker because ive looked at it previously and am not sure how to search for things appropriately. But those who do try should be given a little help in the right direction because, aswell as the Devs, they are not paid to do bug checking, they are not proffessionals, they do it because they think they can help (or maybe because they are irritated in this case.)

[Nurahk]

The thread has lived out it's use.  No real point in cleaning it up, just leave it be.  I doubt anybody has anything more to add to it.

[Robinmagus]

Just a quick question. Isn't posting logs and stuff like this against forum policy, or is it only for ingame logs? Or maybe it changed all together.

[neko kyouran]

Since that log on the BT can be viewed by anyone freely and openly, I think anyways, it's already in the public.  This is opposed to a private chat log stored on your hard drive, that only a few select individuals can see. 

So the first can be allowed since it's already freely viewable by the public, while the second, all parties involved must give consent before it can be posted.

Make sense?

In either case,  Devs kinda can do whatever they want to a certain extent.

And while I'm answering off topic questions,  Veng, a forum admin, cleaned up the thread as he felt fit.  Myself, as a forum mod, who "works for" the admins, do not feel the need to go against their doings, since well, it's their forum, and I just help run it.

[Robinmagus]

Ah, cleared it up a good bit. Thanks mate.

[LARAGORN]

Ok I'll bite

In either case,  Devs kinda can do whatever they want to a certain extent.

This is one of the things LR was talking about, and I agree with him on this point. This kind of mentality can only breed resentment and hostility. True or not it isn’t something that needs to be boasted about and rubbed in people’s faces.

The bug tracker is kinda messed up; the search tool is nowhere near what it should be. I have gone threw the BT a few times looking for bugs I have found, but I have never posted, because of the 'mood' of the responses in there.

I have great respect and admiration for the Dev team, and understand they are hear for no monetary gain; but their position in no way entitles any of them to treat others with disrespect or abrasiveness. I also do understand that people can have a bad day and snap because of being pushed to far, but please do keep in mind you do represent PS, and your actions reflect on the entire project.

[Vengeance]

Xillix was the one who was mistreated, not Gherph.  Xillix was civil at all times.  If you do not see the difference in his actions and Gherph's, then I'm sure it is only a matter of time until the devs have a problem with you as well, unfortunately.

[LARAGORN]

Vengeance, Where in my post did i say otherwise regarding Xillix? Neko made a statment and I responded to it, if you dont see that, then I guess it will only be a matter of time before you decide to have a problem with me as well.