v 0.5.9 Unplayable

[iriss]

I am having enormous problems in getting PS to play even nearly normal. Currently the trouble already starts in the character choosing screen - lag is unimaginable. When finally entering Yliakum it took me 65 minutes to get from the Forrest exit to Gugrontid.
I have tried various settings (disabling grass, turning all to the utmost minimum in different combinations) and also disabled GLSL. The latter however crashes PS right at the beginning. I reinstalled v 0.5.8.1 which runs smoothly - however graphics are bright and white which is not bearable too.
Deleting shaders etc. does no difference either.

I am running iMac 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM on OSX 10.7.3

Does anyone have an idea how to solve this problem?

[Jawir]

Hello, it seems your hardware it's ok (ant ATi x1600 even if dated I remember it was a good video card). The guilty here is "The Lion" I think... I still have the Snow Leopard and, as told already, PS run very smoothly with that... can be an issue rised with a combination of new graphic driver that comes with Lion and the old x1600???

[Elysia Venustas]

I am having this exact same problem, and sometimes I continuously fall through the map.

[iriss]

I cannot believe that the problem lies within the OSX Lion. I am sure that it may be only a slight tweak but me not knowing much of programming would rely on the knowledge of developers.
Anyone? 

[Talad]

Does 0.5.8 have the same performance problems on your machine? At the moment 0.5.8 is still compatible with the current server, so you can try it.

[iriss]

Version 0.5.8.1 runs normal however has strange graphics, being white and very bright. Not sure how to tweak this.

[Tuux]

Hello,

Delete you shader cash, put color to 16 bit, medium texture, medium shader, 2x AntiAliasing and Anisotropic
I have the same issue with light computation.

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Tuux

[LigH]

The "shadercache" can be easily cleared now by pressing a button "Clear Cache" in the launcher settings page. No more searching in (possibly hidden) system or user related directories...

[iriss]

Hello,

Delete you shader cash, put color to 16 bit, medium texture, medium shader, 2x AntiAliasing and Anisotropic
I have the same issue with light computation.

---
Tuux

Thanks, done all you suggested. However no luck. Still moving in slow motion beyond believe.
By the way, Anti-Aliasing always jumps back to 2Q instead of 2, which is strange and has been reported in Bug tracker PS#3716 - Graphic Settings on startup.
I guess it has something to do with the GSLS but disabling that as mentioned in another discussion crashes my PS right at start-up.

[iriss]

No more responses or help?

That is very sad indeed. I guess its not important then!

One less Mac tester, I believe, due to incompatibility or ignorance! 

[LigH]

Don't give up on all of us. There are people willing to help. Just maybe not with a Mac...

[Knightspark9]

I used to have a mac, but I'm not very good with computers. Sorry!

[Jawir]

No more responses or help?

That is very sad indeed. I guess its not important then!

One less Mac tester, I believe, due to incompatibility or ignorance! 

Wait wait, let's try this before!!
This is my planeshift.cfg file, except the lines regarding my login informations. Make a copy of your planeshif.cfg and rename it planeshift.cfg.old, just in case... Then, remove all the lines of your planeshift.cfg except those regarding your login informations and copy and paste the followings:

PlaneShift.Visuals.ShadowRange = 141.377
PlaneShift.GUI.NewOptionsWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.NewOptionsWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.NewOptionsWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.NewOptionsWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.NewOptionsWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftCancelWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftCancelWindow.PosX = 697
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftCancelWindow.PosY = 188
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.Visible = true
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.PosX = 6
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.PosY = 623
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBar.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.PosX = 58
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.PosY = 226
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.Width = 394
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.Height = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.NPCDialogWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GameBoardWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GameBoardWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GameBoardWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.GameBoardWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.GameBoardWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.CraftWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.AddEditActionWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.AddEditActionWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.AddEditActionWindow.PosY = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.PosX = 214
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.PosY = 500
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.PosX = 150
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.PosY = 100
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.GMSpawnWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestRewardWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestRewardWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestRewardWindow.PosY = 100
PlaneShift.GUI.DescriptionEdit.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.DescriptionEdit.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.DescriptionEdit.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.DescriptionEdit.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.DescriptionEdit.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.PosY = 239
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ActionLocationWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ActionLocationWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ActionLocationWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ActionLocationWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ActionLocationWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.PosX = 9
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.PosY = 249
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.Width = 165
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.Height = 311
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.BuddyWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.PosX = 183
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.PosY = 126
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.Width = 952
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.Height = 476
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.HelpWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellCancelWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellCancelWindow.PosX = 209
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellCancelWindow.PosY = 61
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.PosX = 18
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.PosY = 242
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.QuestNotebook.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.PosX = 52
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.PosY = 94
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.PetStatWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.PosX = 199
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.PosY = 104
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.GuildWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.PosX = 150
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.PosY = 201
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ConfigWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GmGUI.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GmGUI.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GmGUI.PosY = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.PosX = 205
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.PosY = 168
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.Width = 338
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.Height = 465
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutEdit.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.PosX = 20
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.PosY = 241
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.Width = 145
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.Height = 430
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.PosX = 29
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.PosY = 236
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.SpellBookWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.PosY = 100
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.Width = 600
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.Height = 350
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionGMWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.PosY = 100
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.Width = 600
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.Height = 350
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.PetitionWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GroupWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GroupWindow.PosX = 206
PlaneShift.GUI.GroupWindow.PosY = 45
PlaneShift.GUI.GroupWindow.Width = 130
PlaneShift.GUI.GroupWindow.Height = 182
PlaneShift.GUI.ContainerDescWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ContainerDescWindow.PosX = 246
PlaneShift.GUI.ContainerDescWindow.PosY = 134
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.PosY = 133
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.InventoryWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.IgnoreWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.IgnoreWindow.PosX = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.IgnoreWindow.PosY = 100
PlaneShift.GUI.IgnoreWindow.Width = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.IgnoreWindow.Height = 240
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.Visible = true
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.PosX = 17
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.PosY = 49
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.PosX = 906
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.PosY = 236
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ActiveMagicWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.PosX = 20
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.PosY = 74
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.Visible = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.PosX = 773
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.PosY = 486
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.Width = 493
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.Height = 197
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.MinTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.MaxTransparency = 0
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.FadeSpeed = 8
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.Fade = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindow.ScaleFont = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.CurrentStyle = 3
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.Visible = true
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.PosX = 3
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.PosY = 3
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.Width = 672
PlaneShift.GUI.ControlWindow.Height = 46
PlaneShift.Graphics.Preset = Custom
Video.ScreenDepth = 32
Video.OpenGL.MultiSamples = 0
Video.OpenGL.TextureFilterAnisotropy = 4
Video.OpenGL.TextureLODBias = 0
Video.OpenGL.TextureDownsample = 0
PlaneShift.Graphics.EnableGrass = false
PlaneShift.Weather.Enabled = false
Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object = false
PlaneShift.Graphics.Particles = High
PlaneShift.Graphics.Shaders = High
Engine.RenderManager.Default = crystalspace.rendermanager.unshadowed
Planeshift.Loading.Cache = false
PlaneShift.Loading.BackgroundWorldLoading = false
ThreadManager.AlwaysRunNow = true
Video.AspectRatio = 16:10
Video.ScreenWidth = 1280
Video.ScreenHeight = 800
Video.FullScreen = false
System.PlugIns.iSndSysRenderer = crystalspace.sndsys.renderer.software
PlaneShift.GUI.Language = italian
PlaneShift.GUI.Skin.Selected = elves.zip
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.GlyphWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.InfoWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.SmallInventoryWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.DetailWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.ChatWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.ShortcutWindowsettings.PosY = 200
PlaneShift.Screenshot.LastUsed = 27
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBarsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBarsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.HotBarsettings.PosY = 200
#PlaneShift.Loading.ForceCuller = default
System.Plugins.iSoundManager = crystalspace.planeshift.sound.soundmngr
Video.frameLimit = 71
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindowsettings.Visible = false
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindowsettings.PosX = 200
PlaneShift.GUI.SkillWindowsettings.PosY = 200
RenderManager.Unshadowed.HDR.Enabled = false
RenderManager.ShadowPSSM.HDR.Enabled = false

Now cross your fingers and launch PS! 

[iriss]

Don't give up on all of us. There are people willing to help. Just maybe not with a Mac...

I know some of you are trusted friends and this is much appreciated, believe me. I would hate leaving the community after such a long time.

@ Jawir: Thank you for your suggestion which I have tried. Unfortunately with no success though (besides having all in italien  ) It was worth a try however and I am very patient in testing different settings and suggestions. I did that for Trymm a long time ago also.

What ever idea you might have, I can try it out in the hope and believe that we get PS working on the Mac - to get those, who suffer by the same problem as I, back into Yliakum.

This might also help: I have set my current graphics to the following:

Color Depth 16
Anti-Aliasing 0x
Anisotropic Filtering 1x
Texture Quality High (can be Medium also - does not make a difference)
Shaders Lowest (setting this to any higher makes it worse)
No Shadows Bloom, Grass, HDR and Weather enabled
VBO enabled
Background loading: World
Particles Medium

As mentioned before, the lag is already experienced just after the log in screen where I can choose my character to play. Above setting runs smooth on that screen but in game this setting allows me to wander around the country side with lower lag, but when getting near any city - especially Hydlaa and Oja, lag gets very bad.

[Talad]

If you have 0.5.8 and 0.5.9 installed, you may try to copy the art/meshes.zip , mataerials.zip world.zip from your 0.5.9 to your 0.5.8 install, and run 0.5.8 to see if that is better or not. Then try viceversa with 0.5.9. This can tell you if it's the new psclient application to be the problem or if it's the new art.