How to run a new player off.

[Rigwyn]

For those of us who have played for a while, you know what its like to see your character get into a dire predicament or to be teetering at some other precipice of irreversible change and to feel a strong sense of tension, excitement, anticipation or anxiousness as a result. Sometimes you unintentionally feel things  that your character would feel. The boundary between character and player is sometimes blurred unintentionally despite knowing the difference intellectually.

Nova made a good point in that it doesn't hurt to reach out with an ooc tell to make friendly contact while letting your character say and do as they wilt. This can be confusing for newcomers. On the other hand, you can't blame the player of the baddy char  for not offering an olive branch to the other player. Its not a crime to NOT make any ooc communication. For some, even the slightest amount of ooc  chatter takes them out of immersion.

[Illysia]

I should do that. Or at least try. I feel really bad now :/ I just wish they hadn't logged off so fast and got my message.

Don't beat yourself up too bad, there is only so much you can do about that instance now. Just try to do something in the future and you should be good.

[Rigwyn]

If they're genuinely interested, they'll be back.

Oh, and for anyone who might be confused. This isn't the goddamn council of carebears, this is Planeshift and its powered by creepy, anonymous strangers via the Internet. Beware!

[Illysia]

its powered by creepy, anonymous strangers via the Internet.

A little redundant... It's the internet. 

[Rigwyn]

Yes, I just wanted to highlight the that one little point. I think some folks forget this. For those who need further reminding, some of us are not very nice in real life. Some are god-awful pagans, non-believers, republicans, *cough* LIBERALS *cough*, males who play convincing female characters, females who secretly play male characters so as not to be discriminated against ( and who can kick your ass in a duel), your mom or somebody who knows you personally despite you not knowing who they are.

[Taya]

It's nothing at all to do with censorship Illysia. It's to do with presenting issues in a way that's a bit more aware. And yes, I did think about what the original poster may or may not be aware of. I just disagreed with the presentation. Not including the names and presenting it as a discussion about what is and isn't good for a new player to encounter would have been great as that would have changed the whole tone of things. That's a thread I'd have no issues with. I just have something against a post that amounts to "This player ran off a new member" and no other content to it at all.

If there are any carebears here, I'd be quite happy to eat them for breakfast really. It would certainly be the end of their world then I suppose.

[Illysia]

Well since cdmoreland hasn't even posted twice yet, there was nothing preventing that discussion from starting accept knee jerk reactions to his initial post. Rather than jump down his throat about it just tell him that what he did wasn't the most tactful way of addressing the problem. Awareness has to be learned as well.

In regards to the topic, everyone should follow "never believe everything you read on the internet". Yes, it isn't the greatest way to handle it either, but cdmoreland can change the topic by simply modifying the first post. At least give him a chance to even respond and try it again.

[Taya]

I also would have left it at one post if not for this.

Either way, please back off a little. I am not and have not jumped down anyone's throat. You were so quick to defend his right to an opinion so maybe you should consider being less negative against myself and others having one as well, especially since you agreed immediately that the path he took was not the best one.

[Mariana Xiechai]

I should do that. Or at least try. I feel really bad now :/ I just wish they hadn't logged off so fast and got my message.

You shouldn't. As I stated before, and as stated by others, you did absolutely nothing wrong at all.

[Phantomboy86]

So, anyone else ready to see Taya and Illysia have another battle royale in a thread? (inb4 its basically already happening. thread extended past the 1 page it deserved and Zalya having to unnecessarily apologize should've been the drop dead end)

[Taya]

I'm too busy chomping carebears to battle really. Unless someone else tries to steal my carebears of course.

Full agreement Zalya's apology was not needed though. Zalya, please also accept my apologies for replying to things that veered off the topic and moving away from the point at hand - I really don't think this topic was fair to you at all or that you should have felt a need to say sorry for staying IC. Awareness toward how someone else might take RP is always good, but from my experiences with you, you always show this.

Ignoring any further comments directed toward me here.

[Illysia]

@Phantomboy: Not really. I don't intend on doing battle here, can't work up that kind of enthusiasm. But it didn't necessarily have to stop at the end but I agree that the bulk of page two isn't the most constructive use of the opportunity the thread provides. Zalya's apology isn't absolutely necessary, but good on her for doing it. Putting a little extra goodwill out there never hurts. 

@Taya: As I tell you in every thread, it's not a personal attack. I'm not being overly negative, you are getting more sensitive. I mean you no harm, you can calm down. But even cdmoreland deserves a little defense since he's a decent guy as well.

[novacadian]

.... your mom or somebody who knows you personally despite you not knowing who they are.

My Mom is on planeshift?!? That explains the passworded screen lock.

[Rigwyn]

.... your mom or somebody who knows you personally despite you not knowing who they are.

My Mom is on planeshift?!? That explains the passworded screen lock.

I shall refrain from joking.... 

[LigH]

There are people who get disappointed by even smaller things than this roleplayed despair. For such people, a serious role-playing game may not (yet?) be the perfect choice anyway; we don't force people to play PlaneShift if they don't like it. But we will try to explain why we, who still do, prefer it. There is always a chance that one or another gives a second try after a dreamy night.