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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #150 on: February 06, 2017, 02:51:27 pm »
objective decisions or subjective... I don't believe people make rational decisions in such instances because the details are complicated to the point that claiming rationality is nearly irrational in and of itself.

It's all based on feelings.

Trump seems to be one of the few that knows this to the level to use it against whomever he is "dealing" with.

If Trump doesn't become all of our fears, we should give him props, even if he does a "bad" job relatively speaking... because he seems to have the tools to completely own the country (and potentially others) if he wanted to. Just because he understands what causes people to react. So if he doesn't attempt to rename the planet TrumpPlanet, he must have chosen not to try.

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #151 on: February 07, 2017, 07:36:38 pm »
I don't follow american politics much, and don't know much about the elections really and don't have strong opinion about it, but i wonder if this is just beating a dead horse all over again? It seemed just a choice between two bad canditates, neither being much better than another. I don't know, but i can't see much difference between the two, both bad choices....

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2017, 05:15:06 am »
The medium IS the message!
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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2017, 11:11:29 am »
This week I overheard an interesting point of view in a German talk show...

Disasters always need to happen first before we are going to prevent them.

Trump's bulldozer politics may be the kind of disaster the democracy all over the world just needs to get new support. He kicks a lot of asses; hopefully many enough and soon enough. The coming elections in European countries are surely impressed by his recklessness.

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No one is completely useless - he can still serve as a bad and frightening example.

But wait, there is one more thought...

More and more "experts" tell now how certain they are that Trump will be deposed. (I am no expert, but I was quite certain about that already long ago.) What if that's just the point? Is it possible that Trump never intended to complete his term of office? In this case I wonder what kind of rules you have, is there a minimum required activity to receive a pension afterwards, and which amount and duration will it have? Does it pay to have been US president for just a minimum of time?
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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2017, 02:16:08 pm »
President Trump isn't even taking his salary so I don't think he's worried about his pension. ;D

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #155 on: February 10, 2017, 05:55:37 pm »

"It's all fun and games until someone stabs someone else in the eye."

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« Reply #156 on: February 10, 2017, 06:58:13 pm »
In this case I wonder what kind of rules you have, is there a minimum required activity to receive a pension afterwards, and which amount and duration will it have? Does it pay to have been US president for just a minimum of time?

pffahahaha

You're clearly ignorant of our politics and government. Maybe you should stick to discussing the governments of which you are more knowledgeable.
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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2017, 01:12:12 am »
In this case I wonder what kind of rules you have, is there a minimum required activity to receive a pension afterwards, and which amount and duration will it have? Does it pay to have been US president for just a minimum of time?

pffahahaha

You're clearly ignorant of our politics and government. Maybe you should stick to discussing the governments of which you are more knowledgeable.

same for everyone in this thread

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2017, 08:34:19 am »
In this case I wonder what kind of rules you have, is there a minimum required activity to receive a pension afterwards, and which amount and duration will it have? Does it pay to have been US president for just a minimum of time?

A person can only serve as president for a maximum of 10 years.  When elected, you get a four year term and a chance to try to get re-elected. The only way to serve for 10 years is if a presidency was terminated and you filled in for that president for 2 years, then got re-elected twice afterwards.

The salary for president is about $400,000 plus benefits. ( ie. expense account, Secret Service security detail, etc.. )
For retirement its close to $200,000 per year for life with benefits.
http://www.ipl.org/div/farq/pensionFARQ.html

As far as I know, these amounts are not based on performance or time as they typically are in the the workplace.

President Trump isn't even taking his salary so I don't think he's worried about his pension. ;D

And he's not the only wealthy person to do so. George Washington did this, so too did Mayer Bloomberg  ( former Mayer of New York )


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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #159 on: February 13, 2017, 08:57:56 am »
Thank you, Rigwyn, for teaching instead of scolding.

And regarding my own government ... yes, I should be so proud now to have a new Federal President who may have been involved in the torture of an innocent person.

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #160 on: February 14, 2017, 09:46:21 pm »
You deserve to be scolded. You continuously make assertions on a topic while lacking the appropriate level of knowledge to make honest statements. It's baiting via ignorance.
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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #161 on: February 15, 2017, 12:26:00 am »
You deserve to be scolded. You continuously make assertions on a topic while lacking the appropriate level of knowledge to make honest statements. It's baiting via ignorance.

Well only i can do is quote Mishka here
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« Reply #162 on: February 15, 2017, 11:52:57 pm »
Those of us who have studied the workings of the US government and American politics would disagree.
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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #163 on: February 16, 2017, 12:16:55 am »
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Why not?  Do you have anything bad to say about her, anything at all, that isn't easily debunked?  Because when you look at all the reasons people have for hating her, the vast majority of it is baseless.  I have yet to see a solid argument against her that some quick research won't disprove.

Sure I do. She is literally Dolores Umbridge (with the only difference the latter wasn`t on her last legs). I don`t even know whether that can be worse than being called Hitler. And I guess not that easy to debunk too. Kek.
Also Wikileaks and Co posted everything worth knowing about her, including the Spirit Cooking stuff. Yeah right, you really have to be a competent and trustworthy politician for your stuff members to engage in satanic rituals with spilling of menstrual blood and semen. Way better than just bragging about pussy-grabbing (which is actually true, btw, and does not change depending on how cucked a person trying to understand that fact of women`s behaviour is). This satanic stuff is, of course, just a tip of the iceberg.

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Re: US Election 2016
« Reply #164 on: February 16, 2017, 10:50:50 am »
I was far more concerned about her chronic lying and her acceptance of millions and millions of dollars from foreign governments ( foreign as in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc ) than with the spirit cooking thing. I was actually willing to give them all a pass on it and write it off as a weird performance art thing. I didn't buy the Pizzagate allegations either and kind of wish those were never made. They didn't sound credible to me. I do wonder though, how seriously folks in the "bible belt" took those allegations.

The thing about her accepting enormous donations from foreign governments that are not very friendly with us is that there's this unwritten rule that when you "donate" a shitload of money, you expect something back in return. They are not really "donating" but instead "buying" something. A prime example of this is the way that so many rich people got jobs as US Ambassadors to other countries when Hillary was Secretary of State. These folks donated shit loads of money ( Upwards of a few million dollars) prior to asking for these positions.

You have to stop and ask, "If I'm a multi millionaire and I make tons of money from my own investments, then why would I donate millions of dollars in order to get a government job that pays dirt?" If you look at the numbers only, it's a gigantic loss and waste of time. But these are financially savvy people. While these positions don't pay very much, they do give the people who take them opportunities to make "connections" with other very powerful people and in some cases, foreign leaders. ( expect "favors" to be exchanged under the table ) Those connections can translate to lots of huge business opportunities for those who know how to play this game.