Get rid of native langues?

[zinder]

what is really your problem?

I mean, if someone talks to you in a language you dont understand, you can ask him to use another language. If both of you dont have common language you must search for a translator.

Or is this thread cause you cant understand what other people talking, if they use an open channel, but do not talk to you? If you want to know it, you can still ask them.

[ParaSite]

I don\'t have any problems m8, I just stated my opinion

[hook]

actually come to think of it, i\'m quite happy that in PS there\'s not only english ...i like (and need) to train other languages i know :]

[Niber]

stegg: In sweden we have to learn more than english and swedish so I have learned Spanish too,, but thats as far as I will go with that.
I will not learn both german and french just so I can play on european servers better,, I have much more english to learn instead.

And for almost all of the replays: Chill out! You guys act as I just said something rasist and insulted some countrys, i did not,, I simply say it\'s a problem in some MMORPGs,, so don\'t say things like human rights and freedom,,

But in Planeshift it might not be a problem after all,, if the game comes in 1-2 years and if it would be like Dark ages of camelot that 10% speaks english the connection at the time might be so high that all can chose whatever server they like..

But italians seems to be the most players in this game and it seems they are very good english talkers..

To make things clear I say this once again: It\'s only a problem when the english talkers are a complete minority,, under 50% non-englisher might not be a problem.
\\Niber

[tygerwilde]

you still haven\'t answered me, what would you do if someone said that there should be no english spoken on a given server? it would be the exact same thing

and no, a person should NOT be required to learn a language to use the internet, they just have to deal with not understanding everything that\'s said around them, just like you HAVE to deal with not understanding what they say, unless you have the gumption to learn their language.
if you want to understand them, learn their language, god, you make me wanna learn cheyenne, just to bug you

[hook]

Originally posted by tygerwilde
you still haven\'t answered me, what would you do if someone said that there should be no english spoken on a given server? it would be the exact same thing

well for now there\'s only Laanx as the only server, so the problem isn\'t there yet ...but if/when we get more servers, your question will make actually sense ...to answer you: i really don\'t know ...an european server would probably still be _mostly_ english, but i think there\'ll be a lot of different languages on it (here i would really suggest that \"in-game language names\" idea), in let\'s say southern america there\'d probably be spanish or portugal that would take over ...i wouldn\'t like to have a server that would be strictly one-language ...if you join a german server you can expect mostly german language, but if you try to play a foreigner on it, it\'s your choice, the players would probably respond to your knowledge or ignorance of their language as they would IRL ...helping or making fun or even ignoring ...that\'s RP, and i don\'t think it\'s bad

[Niber]

Originally posted by tygerwilde
you still haven\'t answered me, what would you do if someone said that there should be no english spoken on a given server? it would be the exact same thing

I would go to the server that is only english! That\'s one kind of solution I think would work IF it gets a problem.

Originally posted by tygerwilde if you want to understand them, learn their language, god, you make me wanna learn cheyenne, just to bug you

Sure,, learn it! It won\'t bother me,, but if all players exept me would learn it and only speak it I would be angry *Insert angry \"smiley\" that doesn\'t seem to exist in this forum*

Please don\'t get upset by the topic.. for about a year ago I did the same topic but for MMORPG in general in the Swedish Pcgamer Forum and there everybody was atleast as tired of it as me.. It seems globaly people don\'t have the same problem..

Edit: wooohoo I have finally got rid of the Cool Newbie title!!

[Caldazar]

Completely off-topic:

Stegg: I hope you do realize that you are talking to a swede, someone from Sweden. Sweden has one of the BEST educationalsystems in the world. Yes, it has been tested. Yes, it is scientifically proved.

Note: Im not trying to flame anyone. I just dont like when people attack another country without knowing what they are attacking.. Be good .

[tygerwilde]

see, if you\'ll notice, I didn\'t say anything about an english only server in my scenario, I said, one where people could speak any language, and one that was no english, how would you deal with that, you would get mad wouldn\'t you? that\'s what you\'re doing to them, only in reverse.

[Xalthar]

IMO people could speak whatever language they like... if they need to communicate with other players that don\'t use their language, they could just use another language more commonly know like english, german or french...

there are not many people who speak danish, so I\'m glad most people are able to speak english... I am lousy at german, but better at french... but still my favourite is english, because it is the language I\'m best at...

If I meet other players on PS who are danish at some time, I would like to be able to speak danish with them... So why shouldn\'t the french be able to speak with their countrymen/women, and the germans to theirs??

[hook]

i don\'t see a problem with people talking different languages ...it\'s actually even more fun (IMO) if there\'s more languages in the game

[ParaSite]

you still haven\'t answered me, what would you do if someone said that there should be no english spoken on a given server? it would be the exact same thing

Well, don\'t play there?

and no, a person should NOT be required to learn a language to use the internet, they just have to deal with not understanding everything that\'s said around them, just like you HAVE to deal with not understanding what they say, unless you have the gumption to learn their language.

I think they should learn the language only if they want to be able to communicate in a chatroom or in a game where the common language spoken is English. As logical as this sounds, the opposite often is true.

[tygerwilde]

hey, the fact is, they CAN communicate with people in chat rooms and games, just not with people who only speak in english, just like if you only speak english, you can\'t communicate with people, like I\'ve been saying, if you want to understand what frenchmen are saying, learn french, it\'s just as much your responsibility as it is theirs, and even more so when you\'re the one who wants to communicate.

[Niber]

Originally posted by Caldazar
Stegg: I hope you do realize that you are talking to a swede, someone from Sweden. Sweden has one of the BEST educationalsystems in the world. Yes, it has been tested. Yes, it is scientifically proved.

Note: Im not trying to flame anyone. I just dont like when people attack another country without knowing what they are attacking.. Be good .

Cool  :]

[stegg]

Caldazar, I just don\'t want to make a statement about any other nation, and I\'m not here to criticize the swedish government and its educational system. I just wanted to point out that maybe its teaching of tolerance had slightly failed on some people from this thread. And as I said before I don\'t want to flame, so no names.

If you want to see what Europe could be like, without our constant nagging, watch the movie called \"L\'auberge espagnole\", 7 different nations living under one roof during an Erasmus year.

Finally, what matters most, is that we have this interesting discussion between civilized people., don\'t you think?