Order of Death

[Davis]

If you murder to get corpses, then it\'s evil, because you\'re killing someone.

[Xordan]

It\'s just as bad as digging up someones grave and experimenting on their left overs. Highly illegal.

[Davis]

There aren\'t any graves in Ylakium. Anyway, grave robbery gets you a fine. Murder gets you a death penalty.

[Auran]

bah, mages that play with death fall into dementia. Don\'t expect them to do anything good.

Nothing of the sort. Playing with death is just about as wrong as playing with any other natural phenomena. Its your fear of death that has given you that twisted perception. Death is as normal as Life so there is no reason why a healer and necromancer should be judged differently just because of the magic they use.

In fact, in case you didn\'t know, healing is also a necromantic art. It is known as Necromantic White. Healers were often branded as Satanists in days of yore.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Auran

bah, mages that play with death fall into dementia. Don\'t expect them to do anything good.

Nothing of the sort. Playing with death is just about as wrong as playing with any other natural phenomena. Its your fear of death that has given you that twisted perception.

no... it is one of RPG systems that given me that perception...

Originally posted by Auran
Death is as normal as Life so there is no reason why a healer and necromancer should be judged differently just because of the magic they use.

uhh... healer is healing people, which is good.
Necromancer is using other people corpses, which is evil.
(now talking generally, not PS)

[Xalthar]

Necromancers are known to be able to heal.. it\'s just not all games that give them these abilities.. in D&D some healing spells are under the school of necromancy, in D&D is also the term \"white\" and \"black\" necromancy, healing goes under the white, whilst undeath/death and negative plane energy goes under black..

Mages that \"play\" with death also often end up as the most powerful in games like D&D, transforming themselves into liches.. you might call them demented, but their power far outgrows any other mages, and power is a major \"fun factor\", especially in rpg\'s..

[Xordan]

Note:

Necromancers (class) = playing with the dead, being EVIL. No healing.

Necromancy (Skill) = a mix of healing and dead raising and stuff. Can be white and black.

[Draklar]

Maybe... i wasn\'t playing D&D... i don\'t like magic system there and thing that it\'s heroic fantasy (i prefer dark fantasy )

Originally posted by Xalthar
Mages that \"play\" with death also often end up as the most powerful in games like D&D, transforming themselves into liches.. you might call them demented, but their power far outgrows any other mages, and power is a major \"fun factor\", especially in rpg\'s..

Yep, they sacrifice alot to gain great power.

[Xalthar]

Originally posted by Xordan
Note:

Necromancers (class) = playing with the dead, being EVIL. No healing.

As I\'ve said so many times before: You DON\'T have to be evil to play a necromancer, it depends on how you want to act... You can do good deeds, but still rely on your skills for power.. An example of this would be Diablo II, it\'s not focused on rpg\'ing, but still, you are able to play a necromancer, who doesn\'t do evil.. As you are able to in many other games too...

[Draklar]

Well in some systems being necromancer always means being evil. In Warhammer there are 2 gods connected to death (brothers). Morr is neutral (is dominating world of the death), Kh?ine is evil (god of those that like to murder and so on).
Necromancers are worshiping Kh?ine, so they are evil.
Worshipers of Morr can use necromancy spells, though if they want to animate dead, they need special sign from him. They aren\'t considered as necromancers, actually they fight them whenever they meet them.

[Xalthar]

Yes but what I am trying to say is that a Necromancer isn\'t evil, it depends on what he does with his skills and abilities, just as with any other character... And since Planeshift doesn\'t have any \"classes\" you can\'t force a user of the dark way to be evil, thus he can chose to do good, and act good, and at the same time increase his skills in animating of the dead and the stuff viewed upon as evil by most people...

[Draklar]

Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.
It\'s obvious that you won\'t be true, powerful necromancer if you won\'t be evil.

[Xalthar]

Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.

Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:

And I will become as powerful as the time I have to play allows me to become... Using all the powerfull spells of the dark way..

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Xalthar

Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.

Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:

so desecrating one\'s body isn\'t evil? right... :rolleyes:

[Xalthar]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Xalthar

Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.

Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:

so desecrating one\'s body isn\'t evil? right... :rolleyes:

Why would that be evil?

define evil.. from where do you get your moral values? who has defined them?

I don\'t want to enter this discussion once again, because all ignorant people have got the same moral values from the same place : religion... and all sensible people know that religion is worthless..