Dark Alliance

[Dameon]

Hey, you complain about non-flexibility and yet you show none?

You are the pone not making sense Savion.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Savion
How can you people not see the leadership qualities baffles me. Look. I choose not to show intelligence. You show a person one thing so they do not expect the true way of your thoughts. That is how true genious is shown.

yea, that was good example of showing low inteligence
i mean \"That is how true genious is shown.\"
like how?
showing that you are an idiot to the whole community?
getting less members because the leader seems to be worthless?
is there anything smart in that?
so yea, like i said: good example

Originally posted by Savion
Hey, I, personally, am chaotic evil but that is besides the point. Either chaotic, neutral, lawful, whatever. It is still evil. No matter how good is aligned, they are always classified as one. Why not the same with evil?
NOT MAKING SENSE PEOPLE!

ok, why did you shout to all people around that you aren\'t making sense?

[Savion]

Dameon, what in the heck is pone? I am the Pone not making sense?

BTW, I thought I told you to shut up.

Darklar, just wait and see how genious I can be. Ok, this thread is boring me. I\'m moving on.

[lynx_lupo]

one, probably one.

[AendarCallenlasse]

To Auran:
  My opinion of you is not based on public opinion and it is my belief that 90% of the forum users here aren\'t worth listening to in the first place.  My opinion is based on what I have seen of your members for one.  I can understand a leader not controlling every aspect of their lives but when you r members come to our post and start insulting us that is a sign that either you don\'t care or you can\'t do anything about it.  Both bad signs.  Second, you are a new guild, a guild we nothing about.  Because of that we have to be cautious.  That is the wise thing to do.  Our view may change in time, but keep in mind this has nothing to do with what allignment your guild is or even you.  It\'s the fact that you wait only one day after our return to want to join the alliance.  If it were any other guild the seem caution would be used.

To Savion:
  When your opinion counts, we\'ll ask for it.  So far you have done nothing but confirm the public\'s accusations of the Cabal and if you had any sense you would change that, as it is not helping your guild.

[Xordan]

A little tip:
Democracy always triumphs, Having 1 ruler with complete power never does(Depotism). We all have our opinions, we all say them. U will fall if u\'r leader does, the Cabal will never die as long as 1 of us is standing.

[Draklar]

What if there\'s a great leader?
but more I\'d like to know what was that reply to

[Xordan]

A great leader? hmm, I suppose it would be possible, but still, he/she would have to be very good to keep tabs on the whole guild. With a group, it\'s much easier, and less chance of corruption. But u are right there, it is possible, just unlikely.
And It was sorta in reply to Aendar, just pointing out that Auran isn\'t our leader, and that Auran doesn\'t decide what people in our guild have to think and say.

[Princess Aelya]

Originally posted by Savion

Underestimating... its sad. I wish DE the best of luck in its revival... but it won\'t happen. Your views are going to take you down. You innability to cope and accept change, or sieze oppotunity... you non-flexibility will be your doom.

i must object. We have always had these views, and were always successful. And we will be succesful again. Yes I will ceize the oppurtunity to get buddy buddy with a guild that is untrustworthy and could backstab us in the future. Yea that makes PLENTY of sense. (sarcasm)

[Xordan]

lol, U\'ll be surprised how many times people will do it though.   But u\'r right in being wary. I would.

[Princess Aelya]

to Xordan:  Also, the DE is not a depotism ran guild. Yes I hold the highest authority, but I am totally open to good suggestions and am not afraid to use a suggestion from someone of lower rank. As part of the dark alliance, we work with other guilds in the dark alliance to better all of us. In the DE every last one of my members is welcome to voice their opinion on any matter, regardless of rank. And I take ALL suggestions into consideration, considering these suggestions are backed up with wise reasoning and logic.

to Auran: im a kid now am i? I must be some kid, since I have ran this guild for over a year. In fact, I see you as more of a child then many people on this board. And do not think our numbers will remain small. Most of my old members have been invited to rejoin, and I am awaiting replies from those that are interested. Not only that, we do accept new members. But right now it is invite only. Perhaps that policy will change soon though. Also, you claim you have no ego. I dissagree. You believe you hold some kind of ultimate power just because you have at least 6 threads full of spam by your cabal members, and because you have more members. Member count right now is absolutely meaningless. It is going to be a long time before planeshift becomes what we are all waiting for. So there will be plenty of time for losing and gaining members. Anything can happen, and only fate knows the future.

to Yarulion: Your last post actually made sense. I am glad I am not the only one who can see through Auran\'s fancy speeches. Though I must add something to one point. This thread wouldnt have gotten this far without DE either. In fact, we contributed to this thread even more so than the cabal, seeing as it wouldnt even exist had I decided not to make ourselves known to the public once again.

Thank you and good night.

[AendarCallenlasse]

To Xordan:
  As I said I do not expect to control how you act but when the leader pledges loyalty, yet all the members speak out against us how can you expect us to accept?  All I have heard is how we are unwise to accept the proposal, but it is the complete opposite.  It would be unwise to accept a guild whose only member who respects us is the leader.  If that seems unfair so be it, but that is how I feel.  We are looking for a strong guild that will support the other guild.  Aelya doesn\'t control what I do but if she makes a decision I trust her on that and will respect that.  Auran has to have some control over his members or else he really isn\'t a leader.  He is just another member.

[Princess Aelya]

And as the wise mage has pointed out, a healthy amount of leadership and authority is needed to keep things organized and members under control. the cabal appears both unorganized and out of control.

[lynx_lupo]

Originally posted by Princess Aelya
the cabal appears both unorganized and out of control.

Aren\'t this specifications of Chaotic? Isn\'t it to be expected?

I understand you, but it\'s still a curious detail.

[AendarCallenlasse]

Chaotic evil is simply the alignment.  It\'s the degree of evil.  Simply it means they will destroy anything that gets in their way, not that they are completely unorganized.