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« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2004, 10:19:13 pm »
bah Canada\'s teens are sad cuz me (a teen) moved to the us, so they think the us is evil ^^

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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2004, 11:00:13 pm »
the only way that would affect them is knowing that we would accept someone like you...
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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2004, 11:10:05 pm »
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the only way that would affect them is knowing that we would accept someone like you...


I didn\'t do it!  Honest!  Ya gotta help me get rid of this guy. :P  I\'m thinkin\' Cuba, how about you?  :]  :P
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« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2004, 11:49:52 pm »
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the only way that would affect them is knowing that we would accept someone like you...


I didn\'t do it!  Honest!  Ya gotta help me get rid of this guy. :P  I\'m thinkin\' Cuba, how about you?  :]  :P


dont get rid of me i luv u all :D

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« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2004, 06:51:40 am »
@Cryha : lol just lol, evil Saddam, happyness and joy on tv well lets see u see US tv and US aren\'t gona put much stuff that makes them look bad on there now are they...
WW2 it was cool that you came in, 2 years late was not cool, but then you make it seem as if you did everything lol, don\'t talk about WW2 with me, I dislike US more than Germany when it comes to WW2.
President bush said something along the lines of this \"War is the last thing we want, but we rather that than do nothing\" so War is the last thing they want, but they want to do nothing less than that and so out of the two things that he mentioned War is the thing he wants the most.  Bush will never be hailed as a great man, maybe a great grade school student :P

@Monketh : hehe Eu will unite and make the best sausages ever!!!
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« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2004, 11:02:21 am »
hehe, not cuba, they\'ve got enough problems, maybe mexico, and don\'t send him anything to drink either, he needs a good dose of mexican water >=D
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« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2004, 03:43:11 pm »
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@Cryha : lol just lol, evil Saddam, happyness and joy on tv well lets see u see US tv and US aren\'t gona put much stuff that makes them look bad on there now are they...
WW2 it was cool that you came in, 2 years late was not cool, but then you make it seem as if you did everything lol, don\'t talk about WW2 with me, I dislike US more than Germany when it comes to WW2.
President bush said something along the lines of this \"War is the last thing we want, but we rather that than do nothing\" so War is the last thing they want, but they want to do nothing less than that and so out of the two things that he mentioned War is the thing he wants the most.  Bush will never be hailed as a great man, maybe a great grade school student :P


Yes, they are.  That\'s what gets ratings, that\'s how they get paid.

If it wasn\'t for us, Hitler\'s Nazi-germany would still be in power today.  It was the critical push you guys needed to turn the tide.  Don\'t lie and say that isn\'t true.  The German people were rallied against one group of already-persecuted individuals.  Unlike Islamist fanatics, the Jews weren\'t actually making themselves a target.

@all: Bush can not be held accountable for actions of earlier administrations, including giving the afghanistani forces weapons.
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« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2004, 03:59:58 pm »
I\'m getting so sick of seeing people think the US did everything in WW2!!! Ok first hitler wouldn\'t be in power to this day. One he\'d be DEAD! Regardless of who killed who, It\'s called OLD AGE. And two, the 3 countries making the largest contributions in WW2 are Canada, the US, and Britain. With many other forces along the way, underground French forces, the Australians. You say without the US Hitler would still be in power?
Without the British they would still be in power, without the French they would still be in power, without the Australians they\'d still be in power, and without the Canadians they\'d still be in power.
So who fought better??? They fought the same. As in EQUAL. Something some Americans seem to have forgotten.

EDIT: It\'s not Afghanistani... its Afghani
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« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2004, 04:29:12 pm »
Flippy, no offense but you are leaving out Russia, the Russians helped a lot in that war, and it was only because the USA came into the war and because the Germans betrayed the Russians that the war was won, I\'m pretty sure the USA and England and Canada came down from one side and the Russians came in from the other, so everyone gets credit.  Well I think thats what happened... hehe

Yes Hitler would have been dead but what about the affects he would have left on our societies, he could have screwed things up so bad or possibly have left an even crazier fanatic in charge after his death.

Now like someone else said, \"no country is without its faults\", so really everyone in here should back off, I\'m from Canada and I know our country is not perfect, the USA isn\'t perfect, all of Europe isn\'t perfect, Russia isn\'t perfect, I\'m sure you get my point. You can find many faults in each countries government, but you know what, the government is made up of only so many people that the majority voted for, what about the people who lost, they don\'t share the same view yet they get screwed, or the people who may agree with one party over the other just on certain points. NO ones ever going to get an absolutely perfect country because not everyone\'s views will be reflected. So really to say that Bush is so good because he\'s doing this and that, that is your opinion, what about the opinions of others, how many people protested that war? How many people couldn\'t make it to the protest? How many agreed with it? And don\'t go out and show me some big fancy survey because those depend on how many people took it, hell it could say 80% of Americans are for the war and maybe only 2 million took it, a little unrealistic but oh well you get my point, People are impressed by fancy surveys and big numbers.

Now I think I have gone off track but oh well, everyone\'s criticizing governments and I wanted to put my two cents in.

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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2004, 05:01:19 pm »
Bah Monketh, the war may not have been a lose but yeah the chances of it were high if USA didn\'t come in but, what I was saying is that USA was not the largest contributor to the war and had US been in from the start a lot of British, Russian, Jewish, German, hell Europian lives would not have been lost.  And then US has the nerve to make film upon film about how they did everything.

And I don\'t think Hitler (or his successor) would be in power, I think England would have held :P  GO ENGLAND!!!
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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2004, 05:04:49 pm »
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If it wasn\'t for us, Hitler\'s Nazi-germany would still be in power today.  It was the critical push you guys needed to turn the tide.  Don\'t lie and say that isn\'t true.  The German people were rallied against one group of already-persecuted individuals.  Unlike Islamist fanatics, the Jews weren\'t actually making themselves a target.


I disagree with you here.  Who is responsible for the fall of Nazi Germany?  The USA?  Canada?  Are you joking?  The two most important factors in the fall of Nazi Germany (country wise) were Germany istelf and Russia.  

Who actually conquered the Nazi capital of Berlin?  The Russians.  How many millions of Nazi German soldiers died at the hands of the Americans?  Not hundreds of thousands, maybe at most tens of thousands.  But at the hands of the Russians?  Much more!  Another quirky little fact.  The total mobilized force of the Soviet Union was 25,000,000 men during WW2!

And the Germans themselves were responsible for the fall of Nazi Germany.  First off, it\'s their fault, and their fault only that Hitler became leader of Germany.  Second off, while Hitler possesed a miraculous leading capability, he severly lacked in the strategical department.  The Germans themselves should have noticed that...

Monketh, most of Nazi Germany\'s forces were situated on the Eastern Front with Russia.  And yet the Soviet Union was still able to drive them back and capture Berlin.

Edit: @Waylander:  The only reason that England held was because Hitler made a critical mistake in bombing civilian targets instead of targets with significance to the English War effort.
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« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2004, 05:18:20 pm »
Yeah but shh, and had the british not drawn Nazi air forces away from Russia the war would have been a loss, also Africa was all English and Italy mostly English along with having England on the Asian front too (getting asses kicked but heh).  I would say 1)Russia 2)England 3)Germany

And Germany did more than that, there were those helping allies and even one of Hitlers trusted people went over to England to warn them...of what I can\'t remember.

Most of the countries got lucky with Hitlers incompetence.  Oh and English people were thought to be almost equals by Hitler so HA! England rules everybody says so :P
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« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2004, 06:42:51 pm »
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Flippy, no offense but you are leaving out Russia, the Russians helped a lot in that war, and it was only because the USA came into the war and because the Germans betrayed the Russians that the war was won, I\'m pretty sure the USA and England and Canada came down from one side and the Russians came in from the other, so everyone gets credit. Well I think thats what happened... hehe


Of course i cant name all the forces who help, THERE WERE MANY!! Offense?? None taken why should that offend me? :)

EDIT: you guys say Russia.... Waylander you make a list!???!!!! My point is that millions of men united to defeat a common enemy, they each contributed. You can\'t pinpoint which country did most. There are simply too many factors. Wow! The russians killed most Germans! Other countries contributed equipment, fought key battles.
But it\'s not about that!! Tha fact is WW2 was the most incredible thing, the men that united to do such a thing. They\'ll never do it again.
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« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2004, 06:44:12 pm »
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I\'m getting so sick of seeing people think the US did everything in WW2!!! Ok first hitler wouldn\'t be in power to this day. One he\'d be DEAD! Regardless of who killed who, It\'s called OLD AGE. And two, the 3 countries making the largest contributions in WW2 are Canada, the US, and Britain. With many other forces along the way, underground French forces, the Australians. You say without the US Hitler would still be in power?
Without the British they would still be in power, without the French they would still be in power, without the Australians they\'d still be in power, and without the Canadians they\'d still be in power.
So who fought better??? They fought the same. As in EQUAL. Something some Americans seem to have forgotten.

EDIT: It\'s not Afghanistani... its Afghani


 No the US was the direct force that caused the winning of the war you know why? Because the US had more money, more men, more arms, and better weapons. Who created the B-17? Who created the B-29? Who created the P-52? Who lost more men than any other country and probably more than all countries combined? I\'ll give the British credit they where a driving force as well and without them our job would have been much more dificult because we would\'nt have had A: the support they gave us and B: A base close to europe, but to say that the French had much to do with the war is just wrong. Good night all the french did was see a couple of tanks rolling towards their border and said WEE WEE WE SURENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of the French Underground was only interested in getting people out of france not actualy fighting the Germans. It is true that the Rissians did some fighting but the only reason they survived was because the Anglo-American force attacked on D-Day and drew the attention away from the Russians. To say that the American Media is only gona show good stuff for America is crazy. First and foremost your not aquanted with the American Media like I am. The only thing The Media will broadcasts is stuff that will hurt President Bush because The Media is full of hate fill, lieing Liberals. Thankfuly we have Fox News, Paul Harvey, and Rush Limbaugh, the only major figures in media that actualy speak the truth. The media covers the 5% of Iraq that is against the war (the Saddam eliteists that worked for him and got special priveleges) like its the 95% that love the US and conver the 95% like its the 5%. Bush will be hailed as a great as will those who stood behind him while the Liberals like Bill Clinton and Al Gore and John Kerry will be hailed as the greatest scourge of the 21st century if they\'re remembered at all.

 Hitler was not an incompetent person. He was actualy a brilliant man. Now don\'t get me wrong I hate him as much as the next but he was still brilliant. The problem with him was he contracted a disease that messed up his head which caused him to use bad strategy which made germany lose the war. It is true that had he not contracted that disease he would have probably won the war.

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« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2004, 06:52:02 pm »
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Good night all the french did was see a couple of tanks rolling towards their border and said WEE WEE WE SURENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You make no sense! That never happened! And as for, Americans having better equipment, you can have gun, i can have a 12th century sword and kill you.
More men, big whoop! Sir Arhtur Wellesley (British!) Defeated 80,000 mahratta confederation infantrymen with a force of 5,000

EDIT: you guys say Russia.... Waylander you make a list!???!!!! My point is that millions of men united to defeat a common enemy, they each contributed. You can\'t pinpoint which country did most. There are simply too many factors. Wow! The russians killed most Germans! Other countries contributed equipment, fought key battles.
But it\'s not about that!! Tha fact is WW2 was the most incredible thing, the men that united to do such a thing. They\'ll never do it again.
In the words of a Russian Sergeant after the war in Europe: \"I had tea with an American, although i met him in ten minutes, i felt he was fighting with me all the way.\"
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