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dorbian

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« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2005, 09:26:47 am »
you want to keep your computer safe, start off without an internet connection, configure your computer ( that it won\'t startup with msn.com anymore ), get yourself some good software to help you out.

but to stay 100% safe against hackers, crackers, spyware, virusses, troyans etc etc etc,you have to kill ur internet connection now, and never plug it in again, don\'t buy games and do install programs, just ur OS and nothing else.
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« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2005, 12:01:05 pm »
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:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( This is nooo bull but I\'m am not joking someone has really hacked my computer. I found it yesterday And it has tonnes of things that have been deleted and stuff. Soo with one of you ases hacked my computer :(:(:(:(:(:(:(. And just to tell you I am not bulling. :(

sorry man, i must tell you.. its your own downfall, and it could have been just a passerby, none of us... well it wasnt me... i was too busy doing other things like Simcity4 and trying to fix my Debian installation...

to remove IE:

Start->Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs->Add/Remove Windows Components and unclick IE ... cha cha!
you can also removed MSN Explorer and MSN Messenger here, just unclick them :)
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« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2005, 04:54:50 pm »
I didn\'t do it if you suspect me :D I am too lazy! Told you two firewalls don\'t help! I would unplug your internet while you fix it, then plug it back in and set up a good firewall, also if you have siblings, check if it was one of them! I am sorry for you though :(

To harkin: ha! trying to fix a debian install, for the amount of trouble that will take, why don\'t you just  install gentoo :D
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« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2005, 05:03:24 pm »
Thus we learn a great lesson today. Do not gloat about how \"invinsible\" your computer is, because it isn\'t. There is a very good reason.

Hackers/crackers/phreakers (whatever they call themselves) break past security systems to prove that they can. They don\'t necessarily have anything against you, but if you go around yelling you have fifteen firewalls and the most intelligent anti-hack systems known to man, you will attract ALOT of hacker attention, and they will try you to see just how hard your system is to crack.

Unfortunately this advice comes too late for one of us... but it is a lesson he has learned the hard way instead.
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« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2005, 08:39:36 pm »
Clap Clap Clap, and now, a moment of silence in remembrance of verideon\'s lost files. :(
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« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2005, 03:29:23 am »
My school got really paranoid after loosing their network for 3 weeks, and now regularly run AVG and 3 spyware programs.  i think they had a massive amount on each computer...
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« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2005, 04:18:05 am »
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I found it yesterday And it has tonnes of things that have been deleted and stuff. Soo with one of you ases hacked my computer :(:(:(:(:(:(:(.

Well, if it had been me, then
1) you wouldn\'t be missing anything, maybe except Internet Explorer, as one shouldn\'t use it anyway ;) and
2) instead I\'d have left a simple note somewhere prominent (startup screen probably) to tell you that you\'d been hacked.
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« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2005, 11:39:26 am »
Norton>Mcaffee

ad-aware se=Spybot s&d

Microsoft=Evil

IE=Microsoft

Firefox>IE
(by a freaking lot)

Zone alarm=free pain in the ass
(still better than nothing)

[as someone mentioned earlier there are some files in spybot (decoy \"bots\" actually) which ad-aware recognizes as spyware/adware which basically just means that the files work as their pupose is to \"confuse\" the site which sent you the malware and \"trick\" it into \"thinking\" that the malware still exists on your computer after deletion. However this is easily surmounted by carefully excluding spybot* files from deletion.]

on another note someone has already mentioned the rumor that Ad-aware 6.0 (unsure of this applies to new SE build) personel(free) addition contains adware within it. However while i cannot provide further clarification upon the issue i can express my opinion that this is merely a rumor as ad-aware is in the end hoping to get your money and that free build is advocated as useful and necessary tool far too widely across the...errrm tech?... community for  there to be any real truth behind the matter. Again this is my PERSONEL opinion i cannot prove the issue either way and in the end is a risk which is entirely up to you to take.

P.S.

http://www.pcpitstop.com has a variety of useful evluation tools to check up on computer performance

*just realized i typed spyware earlier instead of spybot sorry if i confused anyone-Tarach
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« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2005, 04:29:23 pm »
That is some nice clarification Tarachnul, and I agree with Seytra, I would have just left a note on the desktop or in the start menu, I can just see windows xp\'s little note system: \"You have new hacked text messages installed, click here to access them.\" :D
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« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2005, 06:56:27 pm »
Well, what the heck, here\'s my pwnage :)

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to remove IE:

Start->Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs->Add/Remove Windows Components and unclick IE ... cha cha!
you can also removed MSN Explorer and MSN Messenger here, just unclick them :)

For the IE part there, it will just remove the shortcuts.
Why? Because Internet Explorer and Windows Explorer (Everything the windows shell is) is one mind, one body more or less today, it\'s IMPOSSIBLE to remove it 100% from XP or newer.

For the ones out there feeling safe, never do.
I spent most of my 13-14 (lame) years.. how should I put it?, re-convincing people their computer weren\'t safe.

Having more than one firewall is IMO just a waste of resources since the first should be enough. If it isn\'t, you made a bad choice.

For the illegal part, spyware/adware is illegal if it installs by itself. But it rarely does (Look in the beginning of the license aggreement you get when you sign, if the company differs in the top from the company in the footer, you can be sure to 90% that you\'re installing something else too)

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« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2005, 07:38:13 pm »
what a wonderful term,  \"re-convincing\" :D I do that sometimes, but not to people I have come into contact  with, like verideon. I agree with you about windows explorer, but there are other file explorerers you can get to replace windows explorer, just google it, most of them have cool extra features to boot !
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« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2005, 08:40:38 pm »
bleh, everyone just switch to linux and firefox... everything would be fine...

besides i doubt anyone could ever find my actual IP, i cant even discover it :P only IP i ever see is the one set by comcast, and all four of our computers use that one as a gateway, followed by the network IP and then all the linux masking... yeah fun...
« Last Edit: January 27, 2005, 08:42:45 pm by Harkin »
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« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2005, 10:54:07 pm »
If only such a fix was easy to do :D
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« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2005, 11:13:36 pm »
May I just point out that common sense beats any firewall/antispyware programs. I didn\'t have any firewalls antispyware or antivirus programs on my PC at all while I was running windows. Make sure that you\'re running firefox, stop looking at porn sites, stop downloading random crap, stop clicking on ads,  stop opening \"YOU HAVE JUST WON BLAH!!!\" emails, don\'t download attachments from emails you don\'t know who are from, and read the license agreement if you ever have to install free software. You will never have a problem. I\'m running Gentoo now instead of windows and it\'s pretty secure, much more secure than windows, but not uncrackable. Just make sure you don\'t do anything dumb and you\'ll be ok.

Remember, the majority of things that get downloaded and installed on your PC are done by you, not automatically without any user input.
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« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2005, 12:16:40 am »
I have Ad-Aware SE Professional and Spybot - Search & Destroy Pro, put them together and nothing can break through... :D

PS. I could let you download them both for free but i dont know if there are \'Copyright\' people out there, so i will try and stay on the safe side ;)
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