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6891Medium19.04.2017DaevaornDavide VescoviniMake progression points useful beyond stats training15.04.2020No Task Description

Once you’ve maxed your stats, currently there’s no more use for progression points/XP. It’s just an endless counter going up and up and up.

How about:

  • adding PP prices to the money you have to pay in special attack quests? (”Sorry, but you don’t have enough experience to learn this, come back later and I’ll show you how it’s done.”)
  • having to pay in PP more than in Tria for the temporary knowledge bonuses?
  • consuming progression points if you craft something with a special modifier (and in turn only allowing you to do so if you have some to spare)?
  • add more temporary buffs (for example for stats or more directly as bonus HP/MP, increased HP/MP regeneration) that are paid for only in PP or with much lower tria costs.

I am aware that it probably requires quite some additions to the quest scripting and other places and is by no means a trivial change, but I thought it may add to the medium- to long-term development deliberations. To me progression points feel like a loose end, now that they lost their purpose in skill training.

6855Medium07.04.2016VenalanDavide VescoviniStacking of damage when holding multiple weapons with b...15.04.2020No2 Task Description

I tried attacking a kikiri with two ‘Dark Dagger’ and I got the following system messages

(20:29:33) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.

So every attack I do with two Dark Daggers is doing two rounds of extra damage and not just one extra round of damage.

6792Medium07.03.2015Davide VescoviniDavide VescoviniList of Combat Bugs05.04.2015No1 Task Description

This is a collection of Combat System bugs

6706Low03.12.2014JoshuaDavide VescoviniKran Eating Non-Kran Food21.12.2014No1 Task Description

My Kran can eat certain non-Kran food, such as fish, bread, and possibly other kinds of food without getting indigestion.

Since plenty of other non-Kran foods give indigestion, I’m sure this isn’t normal.

6574Medium23.08.2014mike loevenDavide VescoviniDiseased Rats display Improper implimentation of the ra...30.05.2020No3 Task Description

The Diseased rats improperly apply the raging feaver effect to nearby players who are not interacting with it.

The majority of illnesses carried by rodents require physical contact or a bite to be transmitted and this effect should not be applied to someone simply walking by unless the rat targets and attacks the player directly. additionally since the diseased rats do not attack players unprovoked their AI has no business targeting players with an effect without being in combat

additionally healing potions and or crystal way should remove this effect as it is not a magical curse but rather a mundane sickness

lastly as a minor effect caused by combat with a monster the duration of raging fever lasts far too long for a monster of such a low level as a general rule of MMO's no status debuff caused by a monster should last more than at most 2-3 minutes after the end of a combat encounter and those that do should have easily accessible means of counteracting it such as potions or spells.

6562Medium15.08.2014nobody specialDavide VescoviniEnchanting armor error - Brigandine helm26.09.2014No1 Task Description

In the enchanting armor book the recipe for enchanting brigandine helms calls for combining a mercenary helm and a set of steel plates into a brigandine helm kit. This does not work. In order to create the kit, you need to use the helms of darmath book. Otherwise the process works.

6530Medium19.07.2014xolaDavide Vescovinitraining repairing07.03.2015No2 Task Description

for every skill we get practices equal to time we spend while crafting but for repairing it is not true
the practices are equal to time the SECOND attempt repair the same item(so if i repair shield for 403 s i got 310 practices, second time i repaired it 310s )

would be great if we have two alternative way to training repairing: cheap that take longer and faster if we have to spend more cash
there are no bonuses for repairing complex items its only based how bad its damaged it seem

6407Very Low18.04.2014nobody specialDavide Vescovinirinna, boralis superimposed at 1 AM20.07.2015No1 Task Description

these two npcs need to be separated a bit outside their house at 1 AM

6340High13.02.2014nobody specialDavide VescoviniCommanding pets gives no experience and little practice24.03.2014No1 Task Description

Commanding pets is similar to combat skills in that you get no experience for using them but in the case of of combat you get the experience for the kill. I could not get my pet to attack with my 30 empathy, I was able to get a message that my pet targeted successfully as well as a message that my pet needed a target to attack.

Practice seems to have a cool-down period where subsequent commands give no practice. I would think that the cool down period should just be for identical commands, when you need to target something before attacking both actions should give practice.

It would be good to have some information on the state of pet activities.

6333Medium06.02.2014ElhorienDavide Vescovinimore variety of animal parts to craft Healing essences01.08.2014No1 Task Description

I write this to ask about more variety of animal parts in order to craft this essence, since it can be obtained in low production from aragnas and in high production from trepor queen. Trepor queen is just one mob in place and not always give to you the eggs sack. Is a essence really hard to obtain, and is very helpful for newcomers and also for experienced player, when crafted into healing potions. Increasing the ratio egg sack / essences will also help.
Thanks a lot for reading and for your time.

6318Medium04.01.2014JonDavide VescoviniNPC's Teleporting04.04.2016No5 Task Description

Sometimes when I’m attacking NPCs with a spell, I’ll see the following messages:

“I failed to move, will teleport in 5 sec.” “I was teleported here, waiting 5 sec.” “now I located the spawn point.”

I’ve had this happen with rogues in Ojaveda and in the Sewers where there don’t appear to be any obstacles to their movement.

It’s really annoying to have to go track down the NPC to finish it off.

6262Medium25.11.2013SimoneDavide VescoviniResurrecting MOBs26.01.2014No6 Task Description

When you try to kill some kind of MOBs, usually humanoids, with the ability to heal themselves, they keep resurrecting.
You can easily see this in Camp Banished. When the foe reachs a health threshold it starts casting healing flash several times. It seems that there is a sort of queue filled with the spells, and the foe keeps resurrecting until you kill him in a moment he is not casting the healing spell.
This is the opposite of the previous behaviour where the opponent was just dying several times.

6108Medium10.08.2013Hirene PenifurDavide VescoviniMelee skill has too low damage14.08.2013No7 Task Description

I think melee skill has too low damage compared to weapon skills.
It takes to level up the same efforts, costs and time as any other combat skill, and for that you get very low damage.

I measured MELEE on the Training Dummies, got the following:

Normal stance:
min: 46
max: 77
avr: 62.7

Bloody stance:
min: 53
max: 91
avr: 74.8

I used a Q50 ShortSWORD and got these results (and who does use a Q50 weapon nowadays at all?)

Normal stance:
min: 91
max: 153
avr: 126.4

Bloody stance:
min: 107
max: 180
avr: 145.3

And a Q50 Normal BOW:

Normal stance:
min: 99
max: 167
avr: 137.6

Bloody stance:
min: 116
max: 199
avr: 164.8

If I was using a Q300 Shortsword or Bow, these results would be higher by times 1.7x.
If I was using a Platinum Steel Longswords, the sword results would be higher by times 2.1x.

Conclusion:
Melee skill makes about only 50% damage compared to Q50 Sword and 45% damage to Q50 bow.
And please notice, that I compared the skill to Q50 items only.
In case of melee you have no chance to craft a better weapon, you have no chance to loot weapon with good modifier.

Suggestion:
I suggest to raise the damage of melee skill by at least 260%, because it takes to level melee up the same efforts, costs and time as any other combat skills. Otherwise melee is just a good RP skill :)
(Raising the damage by times 2.6x would be similar as you would use your hands as a Q300 Shortsword, taking the delay into account too (equalized damage per second values). Melee has 1.5 delay, Shortsword has 2.0 delay.)

Raising the damage by times 2.6x would cause:

Normal stance:
min: 119
max: 200
avr: 163.1

Bloody stance:
min: 137
max: 236
avr: 195.5

6081Low22.07.2013Davide VescoviniDavide VescoviniList of Spell feature requests01.04.2014No2 Task Description

This task collects the spell feature requests.

6080Low22.07.2013Davide VescoviniDavide VescoviniList of crafting feature requests01.04.2014No Task Description

This task collects the crafting feature requests.

6063Low10.07.2013nobody specialDavide Vescovinibright and murky advanced actions pointless01.04.2014No1 Task Description

bright and murky essences are made by processing 1 of the 3 essence mixes resulting in 3 product.
with higher skill you can process 2 at a time into 6 product.
to process 2 at a time you have to cut off 2 from the stack and transfer them, very time consuming.
to process 1 you dump a stack in the container and shift click on it til they are spread out.

every other higher skill same process I have looked at gave more product per ingredient.
For example 2 crystal sludge –> 5 crystal essences
higher skill 1 –> 3

6037Low18.06.2013DaevaornDavide VescoviniInconsistency - Harvesting apples29.07.2013No2 Task Description

After showing a newbie how to mine and harvest, they approached me the other day saying that they tried to harvest apples around the smithy but failed to apply what I taught them the day before.

It's probably for the fact that apples and their location are far older than the harvesting system s a whole, that I never thought about that before. And that apparently no one else has thought of including apples when setting up the harvesting areas?

I think one should be able to harvest apples just as all the other plants and fruits. If only for matters of consistency.

(I hope the area "Rules" is about right, please re-tag if inappropriate)

5923Medium03.03.2013Ralph CampbellDavide Vescovinimagical protection spells ineffective30.05.2020No5 Task Description

My character was attacking a Rogue in fully defensive mode with the following spells active and the damage was not noticeably reduced.

Animate Vegetation
Armoured Skin
Defensive Wind
Dome of Perfection
Lesser Future Sight
Rock Armor
Water Barrier

This is ridiculous.
One of these spells should have some protective effect and all of them active at the same time should have some additive effect.
Character was wearing no armor at the time.

5321Low08.07.2011DaevaornDavide VescoviniExploration: Areas need more prominent notice17.04.2016No3 Task Description

I think that many of the newly “explorable areas” will go unnoticed by people because the only indication, the system message is lost between so many others.

Why not have an on-screen notice about reaching such a spot, especially now that those notices are optional anyway?

5289Medium22.06.2011GregDavide VescoviniYou Must Face Enemy To Attack/You Are To Far Away To at...24.06.2011No4 Task Description

Not sure if it is just me but I keep getting “You Must Face Enemy To Attack” when im clearly faceing them >

  There are A few Angles At which this happens (Most noticable on a Armored Riverling's right shoulder near the Lake Of Tears, Has also happened on the consumors near the Face Of Stone) 

“You Are To Far Away To Attack” > (standing right next to them, If I time it right I can jump and hit it’s head, but only can hit when jumping)

   I have noticed this On Ojaveda Road 1 Maulbernauts/Vilenaut/Maulberloards (When they spawn in the "vally area of there spawn points") I also notice when I kill them They get suspended Laying down in the air
2956Medium30.05.2009OrgonwukhDavide VescoviniCombat system calibration19.04.2010No4 Task Description

Combat system calibration

Short version:

I propose that in general the amount of damage dealt by any weapon or magic spell should decrease with the distance from the attacker to the target. Also, fast weapons should generally deal less damage than slow weapons. The combat system including both weapons and magic has to be more balanced.

Elaborated version:

Damage (D):

This is the amount of health points subtracted when an single attack is successful. Examples for magic are:

  • Energy Arrow (about 75 HP)
  • Summon Missile (about 48 HP)
  • Flying Stones (about 63 HP)

For weapons one has to include the levels and stats of attacker and target. As a reference I determine both attacker and target to have maxed stats and levels, full heavy armour equipped and to use two weapons at a time in bloody stance. The weapon damage is the average damage including the failed attacks. One could either ask a dev to look this up in the database or do a numberof attacks and measure the arithmetic mean. For convenience I determine the damage of short swords to be 500 HP.
This value is not the value specified in the weapons properties, but the “real” damage dealt.

Maximum attack distance (MAD):

This is the maximum distance from which an attack can be made. MAD can be measured in game units (the values you get if you type /pos). One unit should be about 0.5 metres. Examples for magic and weapons are:

  • Energy Arrow (about 57 units)
  • Summon Missile (about 37 units)
  • Flying Stones (about 74 units)
  • All weapons (about 2 units)

Attack speed (AS):

This is the time in seconds (s) between the starting of the attack and the moment when the damage is dealt. Examples:

  • Summon Missile (about 0.48 seconds)
  • Flying Stones (about 0.28 seconds)
  • Daggers (1.5 seconds)
  • Short Swords (2 seconds)
  • Sabres (2 seconds)

Damage per second (DPS):

This is simply D divided by AS.

Effective Damage (ED):

I propose to let the DPS decrease linearly with the MAD. I introduce a factor (F) with which you can put more or less emphasis on the distance weighting. Based on the above assumed value of damage for short swords, I propose that the ED with a value of 500 should be used to weight all weapons and magic attack spells:

ED=F*(D/AS)*MAD=500
or
ED=F*DPS*MAD=500

For F=1 this simply is

ED=(D/AS)*MAD=500
or
ED=DPS*MAD=500.

Let us fix F=1 here for now for convenience. If my proposal for weighting is too daring or too conservative, we still can talk about setting a different value for F.

What does this mean?

Let us look at the weapons first and assume that the values for short sword are as I wrote above: AS=2, MAD=2 and D=500. Then DPS=250. This short sword deals an average damage of 250 HP per second. Since MAD=2, ED=500 HP. I have nothing to object concerning these values. This is my reference for the calibration of other weapons or magic spells from now on (see below).

Let us look at the spells:
With a short sword you deal an average damage of 250 HP per seconds from a max. distance of 2 units.
With Summon Missile you deal a damage of 100 HP per second from a max. distance of 57 units.
With Flying Rocks you deal a damage of 225 HP per second from a max. distance of 74 units.
Is that fair? Does it make sense that more damage can be dealt from a safe distance? This “unfairness” is reflected in the ED values of the spells:

  • Summon Missile (current): D=48, AS=0.48, MAD=37. ED=(D/AS)*MAD=(48/0.48)*37=3700
  • Flying Stones (current): D=63, AS=0.28, MAD=74. ED=(D/AS)*MAD=(63/0.28)*74=16650

We notice that the value of ED is way higher for spells than for the short sword. Flying Stones also have a very high MAD and hence a high ED value.
If we assume that my proposal is appropriate for evaluation of the power of weapons and magic, this means that Summon missile is 7.4 times more powerful than using short swords and Flying Stones is 33.3 times more powerful than short swords. I think that is quite a realistic reflection of the current state

Calibration

I propose to calibrate weapons and spells by setting the values of D, AS and MAD in a way that the ED is about the same for all of them. In case we use the short sword for a reference, we could adjust the values for Summon Missile and Flying Stones by reducing the MAD, for example To do this we solve the equation for ED in regards to MAD:

MAD=500*AS/D

Then the values for the calibrated spells would be:

  • Summon Missile (calibrated): D=48, AS=0.48, MAD=500*AS/D=500*0.48/48=5
  • Flying Stones (calibrated): D=63, AS=0.28, MAD=500*AS/D=500*0.28/63=2.22

If you think this attack range is too low, there is the possibility to calibrate the spells by setting the damage after solving the equation for ED in regards to D:

D=AS*500/MAD

Then the values would be:

  • Summon Missile (calibrated): AS=0.48, MAD=37, D=AS*500/MAD=0.48*500/37=6.48
  • Flying Stones (calibrated): AS=0.28, MAD=74, D=AS*500/MAD=0.28*500/74=1.89

It is also possible to calibrate the AS with AS=D*MAD/500. You can also try out different trade offs between D, AS and MAD as long as ED=500. As long as the ED is the same for all weapons and spells, the relation between damage dealt per second and the attack range is maintained.

Calibration will also be helpful once the attack range for weapons is implemented. Let us examine the calibration of the broad sword and let us assume that this sword has a damage value of D=750:

  • Short Sword (current): AS=2, D=500, MAD=2
  • Broad Sword (calibrated): AS=3, D=750, MAD=500*AS/D=500*3/750=2

So the attack range is the same while the attack speed and damage differ. One might think that it is more important to increase the attack range instead of the damage because of the bigger size of the broad sword. So let us assume that the damage value for the broad sword is D=600:

  • Short Sword (current): AS=2, D=500, MAD=2
  • Broad Sword (calibrated): AS=3, D=600, MAD=500*AS/D=500*3/600= 2.5

This seems to me an appropriate representation of the differences between the weapons: A broad sword has a longer range and deals more damage, but is slower than a short sword.

Final notes

This is a proposal for balancing the combat system. All values of weapons and magic are either estimations or assumptions. Feel free to provide the true values, if possible. Since the ezpcusa server exists, this might be a good opportunity to try such a system out. My assumptions about the levels, stats, armour and weapon properties of attacker and target are subjective and should be discussed.

Limitations:

Maxed levels were assumed, the properties of lower lever levels are unknown to me. But when known, those levels can be calibrated as well.
I did not include the amount of mana needed for the spells yet. A simple rule could be to have a linear relationship between damage dealt and mana used (maybe 1 to 10, so you can still kill a 800 HP opponent with 222 mana, which is the maximum at the moment as far as i know).
While the attack area of spells is a circle with a radius of AD (you just have to be closer than AD, facing direction is disregarded) while the target is in the centre of the circle, the area for weapons is much smaller because the attacker has to face the target. It should be something similar to a triangle. This disadvantage of weapons is not accounted for here. On the other hand, it is assumed that a spell caster casts spells as fast as possible. This disadvantage is not accounted for here, either. If those differences between weapons and spells is considered too big, you can think about setting F to another value than 1 for an appropriate weighting.
Once spells and weapons are calibrated, prices should as well be calibrated. You could either raise the weapon training costs or lower the magic training costs. Maybe doing both is a good idea.

Advantages:

Using this calibration, it is possible to design various weapons and spells which are different concerning D, AS and MAD, but they are weighted in a more appropriate way than it is the case now. Your choice of weapons is based on what you prefer: range, damage, speed or a weighting/combination of them. Combat can be balanced and become more interesting once players fight each other with different properties of their weapons and attack style.
The work for the devs is small. You need to change a single value for each weapon and spell.


Link to corresponding forum thread: http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=35352.0

2656Low06.01.2009CaarrieDavide Vescovinilist of crafting bugs08.08.2014No3 Task Description

this bug will include any bug related to crafting.

881Low01.01.2008ODavide VescoviniAnimal parts economy14.11.2023No9 Task Description

I would suggest a specific hunting skill to “loot” animals instead of the current lottery system giving hides, claws, eyes, and whatnot.

Currently, anybody who can kill something can get enough parts by slaughtering a big amount of creatures. The skill would clearly separate the warriors from the hunters. Anyone can probably cut a rat’s tail, but skinning the animal is a bit more complex. And so on, some beasts will be more difficult to skin than others. Even proper meat is not obvious to extract from a carcass.

As a side effetc, maybe a killer could carry back the entire beast to a person capable of skinning/cutting it, if he doesn’t have the skill himself (it looks like some people can carry 400 kgs out there).

This incidentally could create a real market between players, akin to the economy currently existing around ore and weapons. Obviously, some PCs are going to be cooks, leatherworkers or alchemists.

This of course doesn’t apply to looting rogues, unless one can think of using human parts in some dark alchemy, or just carrying ears or heads as trophies.

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