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PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Versions).

Dryken plane IMHO is too difficult for new players. I managed to get through it but on my first attempt at doing so (without having ever completed Dryken plane before) it took me almost two hours.

It at times was quite frustrating, cause the time out for barriers to re-appear is to low. I managed to get through in the end only by running at an accelerated pace (with basically holding the shift key all the time).

Now I imagine a new player having completed creating a char. What I would like to do then is: Play already.

And then this. Running the same way several times cause you did not manage to reach the second or third energy barrier in time. Especially annoying it is in case you do not reach the third energy barrier in time. Cause then you have to redo the second one as well.

And if you missed to obtain the first shard… you have to do all of the energy barriers again. There are a lot of ways to get Dryken plane wrong, which can cause frustration for new players.

Granted, now that I know the solution I can do this quicker. However… consider a new player. Not yet familiar with keyboard shortcuts. Not having seen any tutorial yet. Not knowing how to navigate the char and run faster by holding shift key while running.

I can imagine quite a few new players giving up straight away. When playing a new game, it is natural to evaluate it. And while PlaneShift really deserves giving it some time, especially younger players may not have the patience to do that.

At the very least I’d raise the time limits so that even without holding shift key while running you can reach the barrier even in case you do not find the shortest path to it from the beginning. Or I’d include some kind of mini tutorial at least telling the player about shift key to run faster.

I’d also consider letting an energy barrier disappear once and for all. Consider do to away with re-appearing energy barriers.

I think its important to improve Dryken plane really taking new players into account. It at time was frustrating for me even as a long time player. I think it would put off many new players. Dryken plane seems like a nice idea to test a new player – a little bit! – whether they are serious about playing PlaneShift. However, I think it is important not to overdo this. It may also be a good addition to the lore, sure. But also for that I would not make it too difficult for new players.

Happens in The Family guild house. In the main hall.

It is a torch.

I tried it three times. Both times it did not pick up the item and then it was not possible to open the item menu with right click again till the client showed the error “connection timed out”. The client then shows that there is no connection to the server for a while with the large filled red circle after server name. And then I can log in again as it shows the green circle again.

I marked the torch by moving three purple pillows from the two central tables in the main hall in a kind of a path way towards the torch. Yes, I have been able to pick up those purple pillows. The marking should stay as is until a database reset, but I can mark the torch again after that as well. Just let me know.

I was able to pick up a purple pillow even after moving and rotating it around. I have no idea what makes this torch so special.

Using mouse wheel while mouse pointer is over inventory or container item display to scroll through items in it also zooms camera view in/out.

Expected result:

In this case only scroll through items in inventory or container item display.

May affect other windows with scrollable content as well.

Casting Life Infusion yields an increase in Health for a fraction of a second in stat display (window accessible with P key), then turns back to old value, before duration of spell ends.

PS Unreal 0.7.23 (not yet selectable for Report Version)

In Crystal Space PlaneShift you can sort spells in spellbook by clicking on “Name”, “Way” or “Realm” table header. This has been quite handy.

I would like to have this with PSUnreal as well.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet selectable in Reported Version).

Neither “/banking personal” nor “/banking guild” does open a banking window in PSUnreal.

I tried it with Harnquist and then Gardr as selected char.

I am able to open banking window with icon in PSUnreal.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet selectable in Report Version).

Using mouse wheel to scroll through skills in skills window scrolls horizontal instead of vertically.

There is a scroll bar, in case I make the window really wide. Then I can scroll down to other skills.

I find this not very intuitive to use.

Expected result

Does the window need to be that wide that horizontally scrolling is needed? If not, then I’d just make it more narrow and use mouse wheel for vertical scrolling. But even in case it is needed… I’d add a horizontal scrollbar as well and use mouse wheel for vertical scrolling just like in other windows.

Also I’d make sure the vertical scroll bar is always visible when there is something to scroll vertically, as in most categories in there. Not only when I make the window that wide that no horizontal scrolling is needed anymore.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet selectable in Reported Version)

Skills are unsorted. In Crystal Space PlaneShift they are sorted alphabetically which makes it easier to find them.

Expected results

Sort skills alphabetically.

I thought I have seen this bug reported elsewhere already, but I did not find it again. Feel free to close as duplicate in caste it has already been reported.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version)

When I click on a faction in “Factions” category inside skills window, it gets displayed as expected.

At the same time however it seems that the displayed faction is temporarily removed from the faction lists. This leads to a changed list.

How to reproduce:

- For example click on the first item “Cabal of Whispers”.
- It gets displayed.
- In list it is removed.
- Now the first item is “Iron Hand”.
- Click on “Iron Hand”.
- Now the first item is “Cabal of Whispers” again.

I find this irritating. It makes it difficult to click through all factions one after another cause of the changing list.

Expected results:

Keep all the factions in the list in the same order while clicking through them.

I’d recommend an alphabetically order by default.

I find this

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version).

In Crystalspace PlaneShift I can move around whole stacks in inventory by Ctrl+Click and DragnDrop them.

This does not work in PSUnreal. I always have to specify the amount of stacks with more than one item.

Expected results

Ctrl+Click works for moving whole stacks.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version).

In Crystal Space PS when casting Magic Light I get a bright glowing light that really does something to lighten up the surrounding area.

In PSUnreal I get a quite dim light globe that does not really seem to affect much around it. It does not really lighten up the surrounding area. Even with Crystal Way above 160.

Expected result

Make it brighter, make it glowing, make it affect its surrounding area.

I.e. make it like it is in Crystal Space PS.

An interesting feat would be to start with lower brightness and size of affected surrounding area and increase it with increased Crystal Way skill. So someone with Crystal Way 10 can cast it, but it does not shine as bright and affect as large an area than for someone with Crystal Way 100.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version

In the Quest window quests and events are unsorted.

That makes it difficult to find a specific quest or event. (Or compare whether between Crystal Space and Unreal PS).

Expected results

The quests and events are sorted alphabetically.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version).

Buddies are unsorted in the buddy window. This makes it difficult to find a certain buddy or compare with Crystal Space PS.

Crystal Space PS sorts them in the first order by online status (green = online, red = offline) and in the second order alphabetically.

Expected result

Buddies are sorted like in CS PS.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version)

All members are displayed as all times. Even when “Show online only” is checked.

Additionally all members of the guild are displayed as offline, including the one I am currently logged in.

Expected results

Toggling between show all and only show online members work.

Members of the guild who are online are reported as online.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not in Reported Version)

In the guild window under “Members” the members are shown unsorted.

Additionally the list of members is not sortable by clicking one of the columns just as in Crystalspace PS.

Expected result

Sort members alphabetically by default.

Sort them by a different field by clicking one of the columns.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version).

The “/sit” command does not work in PSUnreal. Nothing happens when entering it. Also no error message.

Expected results

Like in Crystal Space PS on “/sit” the character sits.

PSUnreal 0.7.23 (not yet in Reported Version)

# How to reproduce

- I enter fight mode by pressing the tab key
- I target the creature
- I click the left mouse button
- After fighting the creature I leave fight mode again by pressing the tab key again

Actually it can be reproduced by just pressing the tab key twice.

# Actual result

The mouse pointer appears but is still captured in PSUnreal window. I cannot move it to another window.

[2022.08.19-20.14.16:575][ 58]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseLockMode Changed, LockAlways → LockOnCapture
[2022.08.19-20.14.16:575][ 58]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseCaptureMode Changed, CaptureDuringMouseDown → CapturePermanently
[2022.08.19-20.14.17:425][ 69]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseLockMode Changed, LockOnCapture → LockAlways
[2022.08.19-20.14.17:425][ 69]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseCaptureMode Changed, CapturePermanently → CaptureDuringMouseDown
[2022.08.19-20.14.19:694][100]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseLockMode Changed, LockAlways → LockOnCapture
[2022.08.19-20.14.19:694][100]LogViewport: Display: Viewport MouseCaptureMode Changed, CaptureDuringMouseDown → CapturePermanently

# Expected result

I can move the mouse pointer freely again.

Actually I would even prefer not to have a specific fight mode and have it more in the way it is done in Crystal Space PlaneShift in case that would be possible with Unreal engine. I’d love PSUnreal to never ever capture the mouse pointer. I find this behavior intrusive.

Shift-Click and Ctrl-Click correctly work in Inventory or a Container when I activate the in game window of Inventory or the Container first. But when I Shift-Click or Ctrl-Click into the window while the Inventory or Container window is not yet activated, it still asks for the amount to take.

Just tested whether character dies when reaching 0 HP during combat.

After leaving Death Realm I found no loss in Health, Mana or other stats being applied. Also Active Magic does not show Dakkru’s Curse being in effect.

I did not check for that immediately but only after a few minutes. So in case the duration of the curse has been lowered, I might have missed it. But if its still last as long in as in Crystal Space PS, then it has not been applied.

Should be “The Family” for character Damola. But is: “Drangetta”. Also Website and Guild Message of the Day is wrong.

Member list looks right. Privileges look right. Alliance is right, except for name of own guild which again is “Drangetta” instead of “The Family”.

Pet window shows groffel also for rivnak and drifter.

# Expected result

Pet window shows

- drifter for drifter
- rivnak for rivnak

Also “Evolution Stage: Baby” does not seem to be correct.

I bet there is still some work to be done, this is just a reminder.

The important functionality like summon, dismiss, follow and unfollow works as expected.

Once I told the pet not to follow, it still follows a few steps before stopping to follow.

# Expected result

Pet immediately stops following.

Tries to trade with mount when trying to trade with merchant while on mount.

# How to reproduce

- Nount a familiar (I used Rivnak)
- Select merchant (I used Kethzun Guthazik in Amdeneir)
- Right click merchant
- Select Sell/Buy

# Actual results

Error message: MOUNTNAME is not a mount

Trade window still opens with 99 empty items with name “name” and price of 412 tria. It is not possible to select those items to buy some, however.

# Expected results

Starts trade with merchant, at least when the NPC agrees to trade with people on mount.

Otherwise NPC would decline to trade.

Light can still be an issue. As Damola left Amdeneir a rainy weather suddenly came and it went from light to very dark within seconds. Accidentally I had Damola run into the Amdeneir mine and in there, I was barely able to let hear get out of it again, even with ability night vision.

Position after almost getting out was -282915.19 -593676.38 23793.09 in instance 0.

Also with night vision there had been larger areas of the screen just completely black. I’d expect Damola to see a bit more than that, especially with Night Vision.

Another approach here could of course also be to have some light sources at the mine.

Got to remember to put some torches in her inventory in Crystal Space PS so she has them after a database reset in PSUnreal. Magic Light does not help in such a situation (reported a bug about it doing not much to lighten up anything as a different bug already some time ago).

Closes and opens chat window when clicking on Circle, Octa, Hexa or Tria symbol in Exchange Coins section in Personal Banking.

# How to reproduce

- Have chat window open
- Initiate Personal Banking.
- Click on Circle, Octa, Hexa or Tria symbol

# Actual results

Opens or closes chat window.

Popup help shows “Chat”.

# Expected result

Well I don’t know.

I am trying to enter caves in PSUnreal.

I did not figure out where to right click in order to enter the skull cave.

I right clicked inside and outside of the skull every area I could think of, including the area I remember from Crystal Space based PSUnreal.

I was not offered the usual menu to enter.

Can someone reproduce this? Maybe I am still just clicking the wrong locations, but I really tried for over 15 minutes to enter this cave now.

I accidentally picked up a green carpet from the floor of the guild house of The Family.

I placed it back but it was rotated in the wrong way, thus I tried to enter the menu where I can move and rotate the carpet.

However the carpets is only visible partly and what part I see depends on Damola’s position as well as it also flickers around like crazy.

Eventually I was able to enter the move/rotation mode again, however I left the carpet as is.

Maybe good to look at this bug and bug #7519 “crashes on trying to remove a torch previously placed in guild house again” together.

Talad, you closed #7520 cause the effect of the green carpet placed on the ground.

However… this is what happens to a new player when just dropping a carpet. And they then need to figure out to move it around in order to place it optimally.

While it may be difficult to find the optimal place for an item that is dropped onto the ground, it may be possible to place it just a tiny bit above the ground by default?

This is an enhancement request which in my point of view does not block switching to PSUnreal. It could be considered after the switch.

This is a low priority bug, as it is just a minor annoyance.

# How to reproduce

- Open quests and events window
- Switch to “Quests”.
- Click on “completed” to only show completed quests.
- Switch to “Events”.

# Actual results

It shows all events while the “completed” check mark is still checked.

# Expected results

Either it shows only running events or the message “No running events”.

Or the “completed” check mark should be reset to not set.

Low priority.

Crystalspace based PlaneShift client shows the total number of events and quests.

While it could be (ab?)used by players to boast about how many quests or events they completed, it would still be an interesting number to know.

# How to reproduce

- Open a container in your inventory (the bug doesnt happen if the container is on the ground)

- Just double left click any item in a container so that it gets picked up and dropped into the same container slot

# Actual results

The item disappears until you close and reopen the container again.

However when you drag the item to a different slot, it is correctly placed in there.

Also left double clicking items in inventory itself does work correctly. The bug just happens in containers.

# Expected results

Item is immediately shown in the slot it was dropped to, even if it is the same slot it was in before.

Armored riverling is still shown as dwarf.

On entering house of spirit Damola appeared in Dryken Plane instead of in House of Spirit.

This is a new issue with PSUnreal 0.7.26. Can’t yet select it for bug tracker.

# How to reproduce

- Have a char without any armor on and also without any robes.
- Put a piece on armor on

# Expected result

The piece of armor is shown on the character.

# Actual result

The piece of armor is not shown on the character. Only after quitting and starting PSUnreal again it is shown.

# Further obversations

Removing a piece of armor is shown immediately.

Putting on a robe or removing it is also shown immediately.

# Additional notes

I tried this with Swirling Major Chainmail armor

This is with PSUnreal 0.7.26b.

Configure the following shortcuts

1. Shortcut “Nightvision” with “/ability nightvision” and key “N”. No icon.
2. Shortcut “Detect secrets” with “/ability detect secrets” and no key. No icon.

## Actual results

After hovering over the first shortcut the text “Nightvision” is indeed shown. The text “Detect secrets” it not shown. Not even after hovering with the mouse pointer over it or closing and opening the shortcuts window.

## Expected results

The shortcuts window is updated on each change to shortcuts.

## Probably related

Shortcut Icons Reset after Logout #7417

I found a see-through hole in map at position

boorsout 78737.98 -743045.69 13650.12 instance 0

when looking towards the rock face.

Pitch blackness the tower at position

bdoorsout 62703.0 -736787.50 14912.83 instance 0

I would not consider this a bug without night vision, but with night vision I would expect Damola to at least see something. Otherwise I’d wonder what Night Vision can actually be used for.

Without Night Vision during the night I would expect it to be pitch black unless there would be some kind of light source. And I think it would be nice to have an area here and there were you either need a torch or the Magic Light spell. The Magic Light spell does nothing here. see bug #7415 - Magic Light spell does not create enough light in PSUnreal which is not yet fixed in PSUnreal 0.7.27.

A torch works well.

bdoorsin 137214.59 -843353.94 49922.33 instance 0

I’d expect that all areas in Eagle Head Fortress are lighted by some light sources.

I could not find action area for entering lava cave.

I verified with Crystal Space PS. There the action area is with the pyramid shaped rock at

bdoorsin 122.25 -118.17 -1465.66 instance 0

I found the same rock in PSUnreal at

bdoorsout 150153.02 -754179.44 27418.09

I right clicked basically anywhere on this rock and on all other rocks in that area and on the rock face and on the ground.

Nothing.

There is no gossip or other channels in chat anymore with PSUnreal. I bet that may be intentional, but now there seems to be no OOC way for players to talk to all other players which are online… in order to hint at some event somewhere or so.