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Bug Report4191NoQuests DynamicsHighNewRlyDontKnownpc synonym musn't occur in a trigger12.08.2010 Task Description

if an npc synonym occurs in a quest trigger, it'll break that trigger because incoming messages will be replaced by the more_general value while the trigger still expects synonym.
therefore the quest parser should refuse such quests as they're obviously broken or at least throw a warning about such occurrences.

Bug Report5626NoSoundHighNewTaladweltallAndrea RizziCreature sounds implementation06.05.2012 Task Description

As per this document:

http://planeshift.ezpcusa.com/pswiki/index.php?title=Sound_System#Sounds_in_factories

the creature sounds are not working properly in game today.

The common.xml file is properly read, and the resources are properly loaded, but the only state ID which works consistently is state ID 2: charge.

Idle seems to kick in only after attacks, and anyway not consistently. The others are never launched. The problem is that those events are not properly sent to the client a sound events.

In particular we need the following events: IDLE, CHARGE (when first engages in combat), COMBAT IDLE, ATTACK, (being) HIT, DIE, WALK, RUN.

Bug Report6666NoQuests DynamicsHighNewVenalanQuest menu: when triggering a quest menu with the same ...26.10.2014 Task Description

There are many time in quests and KAs when they have the same trigger, for example “about armor” or “about apples”.

When you click a quest menu (or type some text to an NPC) the first dialogue(s) to be searched should be quests and if a matching trigger is found the quest menu should be sent, then if nothing is found in a quest it should search KAs. What is currently happening when you have two or more matching triggers you are getting a random choice between the quest response and the KA response. This results in players getting what seems to be a response from the NPC but the quest does not continue.

Bug Report7725NoEffect SystemHighNewKiFunStuSMagic light is giving no light with low graphic setting...09.02.2023 Task Description

Magic light is giving no additional light in game after casting it.

on lowest graphics settings no light
on medium no light
on high there is light
epic graphics settings it is showing light

Bug Report7828NoQuestsHighUnconfirmedchroniclerHarnqust's Regular Advertising cry is replacing quest d...15.04.2023 Task Description

Issue: Harnquist regularly calls “Blades, shields, repair kits! Get them here!”. If you are collecting a quest from Harnquist, his regular cry can replace a page of his dialog providing the quest information and there’s no way to get back to the page of dialog that was replaced.

His regular cry should be supressed whenever a player is talking to him, so the player can read all the information he is providing.

Bug Report7928NoModels and MapsHighFixed pending releaseDaevaornPCs can get locked into the Ash Brotherhood Lair17.03.2024 Task Description

A server crash happened while I was inside the Ash Brotherhood Lair.

On restart the stone in the doorway had been reset in its closed position, and I was effectively trapped inside, without a way of triggering the mechanism to re-open the passageway.

There should be a second trigger/gear/switch on the iside.

Bug Report7978NoUser InterfaceHighUnconfirmedDaevaornPort /unstick as a means to solve critical bugs on play...24.12.20231 Task Description

It has happened to me a dozen times over since joining UR after it has replaced legacy, I relogged inside a guildhouse/law map and I am eternally falling for having spawned slightly beneath floor level.

In several instances I had to wait hours for a /tp back to the map, and so it is happening again today.

Please make a quick fix of this enabling players to teleport themselves back to the map in such a case. It’s a real downer to have to wait for a long time in such a case, particularly given the fact that you probably have to stay online for a GM to /tp and fix this. Huge waste of energy with the constant 3D animation.

This could also be of help if players are trapped in map geometry, inescapable pits, rifts and so on.

Feature Request5377NoQuestsMediumUnconfirmedFoxieIn Aid of the Kran quest too short26.08.2011 Task Description

I must say that this quest is quite disappointing. After a promising and very good beginning the whole story is cut short in an odd way. I think the plot would deserve some development as the beginning is really good.

Bug Report5380NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedAndrew DraskoyNothing to be looted message grammar29.08.2011 Task Description

The message presented when looting a dead NPC with nothing to loot is “… has nothing to be looted”.
While this is valid English, it is more natural to say “… has nothing to loot”.

Bug Report5391NoInventory/ItemsMediumUnconfirmedVakachehkTrading while over encumbered 28.09.2011 Task Description

It’s stupid to not be able to trade (through right clicking the character and clicking ‘trade’) while over encumbered (having to sit down because you’re too heavy). But yet you can just make a shortcut or type /trade and it works.

So my point is, why?

(note: if this task has already been posted and discussed, I did search ‘Trade’ and ‘Trading’)

Bug Report5392NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedAlex MatthewsNo armor29.09.2011 Task Description

The leaver leg armor and appentice robes on Enkidukai clamod isn’t working. this might be the same for all enkidukai’s.

Feature Request5485NoInventory/ItemsMediumUnconfirmedFiribanMake a hat item where you can throw money in26.12.20112 Task Description

it would be nice for bards if they had hats where passers-by could throw some tria in. The hat item would serve as a money container as well as a piece of clothing. The advantages to just throwing tria on the ground are that people can’t just steal the money and it would look nicer.

Feature Request5486NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedEdichoImplement data compression28.12.2011 Task Description

Client recieves plain text data regarding many things configuration:

<traits><trait id=”10” next=”0” loc=”FACE” mesh=”308” mat=”321” tex=”322” shader=”“/><trait id=”346” next=”0” loc=”HAIR_STYLE” mesh=”328” mat=”0” tex=”0” shader=”0.63,0.32,0.17”/><trait id=”382” next=”0” loc=”HAIR_COLOR” mesh=”0” mat=”0” tex=”0” shader=”0.52,0.45,0.17”/></traits>

It would be better to handle the data this way:
compressed server side
stored compressed
sent compressed
client recieves compressed
client decompresses uses and stores on disk.

compared:
plain text - 1,1k
tar.gz - 0,4-0,5k

Bug Report5566NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedAiwendilThe treeview of paws is bugged.13.04.2012 Task Description

It happens for me always again after “opening” and closing nodes. Sorry, haven’t found a way yet to reproduce it every time. Might add some more information here once I find out more ;)

It dispalys the newly opened node above a previously already opened one.

Bug Report5574NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedKaerli StronwylleClient-side email validation in registration system rej...15.04.2012 Task Description

GMail uses the + to denote email aliases: foo+bar@gmail.com delivers to the same GMail inbox as foo@gmail.com. The PS validation system rejects the + character client side, although it is permitted by the RFCs (see RFC5322 s3.2.3/3.4.1). The easy fix is to be much more liberal on the client about what is allowed in an email address, since we’ll be emailing a validation code to it anyway.

Bug Report5625NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedLeonReference to non-existent sound file: amb-day_forrest_...05.05.2012 Task Description

Essentially the same issue as http://70.32.40.136/flyspray/index.php?do=details&task_id=5579 except that the file in question is amb-day_forrest_4 This is happening in the outdoor area at the arena.

Fri May  4 19:13:58 2012, <src/plugins/common/soundmanager/data.cpp:167 LoadSoundFile SEVERE>
Fri May  4 19:13:58 2012, Can't load file 'amb-day_forrest_4'!

for now I added:

<Sound name="amb-day_forrest_4"       file="/planeshift/art/sounds/amb/day_forrest_3.ogg" /> 

after:

<Sound name="amb-day_forrest_3"       file="/planeshift/art/sounds/amb/day_forrest_3.ogg" /> 
Feature Request5704NoInventory/ItemsMediumUnconfirmedAndyBooks could have regular Info window shown first22.07.2012 Task Description

Instead of directly opening the book copy text, it would be nice if a book showed a regular info window first. Title, the authors name, and generic book description. If a Read button were provided, that then opened the window with the book copy text, perhaps an event could be generated so there could be read and unread books in ones inventory. Being able to carry and inspect an unread book perhaps gives some interesting quest possibilities.

Feature Request5705NoWebtoolsMediumUnconfirmedAndyMyPlane HTTPS22.07.20121 Task Description

Any way to get MyPlane running on HTTPS? I am thinking before someone has a problem. Not positive on the category on this one, thanks.

Feature Request5714NoItems CharacteristicsMediumUnconfirmedAndyNamed variety of crystals27.07.20121 Task Description

The random weapons naming system is one of the excellent features of PlaneShift, and crystals have always been iconic to PlaneShift. Different varieties of mineral crystals produced at the mine sites. Some descriptors that would indicate quality on the crystals, like: Smoky, cloudy, occulted, clear, milky, flecked, fractured, et cetera. Smoky sapphire, occulted Ruby, et cetera. These could indicate grades of quality. Perhaps there should be a chance to pull extremely unique crystals of magical quality with two or more modifiers. I would not be surprised if this was already thought of, but I wanted to put it up here while it was in my mind.

Bug Report5716NoNPC DialogMediumUnconfirmedMario RohkrämerTokens of Regard - a little senseless since Narwin pass...28.07.2012 Task Description

Since NPCs move, Narwin visits Ervin Fromaad and must pass Grimal on his way. So it doesn't make much sense anymore that he can't visit him in person and request the token himself.

Bug Report5735NoMiscMediumUnconfirmedDavidBit of grass outside of walls in AkkCentral14.08.2012 Task Description

Nothing major at all, but I cannot change the severity. Is that up to the poster?

Anyway, just on the other side of the wall from Akk-Central -4.46 0.70 4.32, in the empty space, is a bit of grass floating around.

Bug Report5760NoBuild IssuesMediumUnconfirmedJohn Smithstatic src analysis of planeshift15.09.2012 Task Description

I have been playing around with the llvm/clang static source code analyzer (http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html) for a while, and thought it might be fun to run it on the planeshift source code (svn r8433). Even though especially the c++ analyzer is still viewed as beta quality at this time, the results are interesting and can be found here :

http://lbalbalba.x90x.net/clang-analyzer/planeshift/

Bug Report5767NoUser InterfaceMediumUnconfirmedMinksChat highlighting when name is part of another word.16.09.2012 Task Description

I made a char with a very short name (Min).
Everytime some says a word this name is part of (like “I’m coMINg home.”), the whole line
gets highlighted in blue.

Bug Report5786NoModels and MapsMediumUnconfirmedRii RiiDungeon darker at night23.09.2012 Task Description

I think the dungeon is darker at night. I need a torch then. This makes no sense.

Feature Request5868NoRendering IssuesMediumUnconfirmedMartinsetting for spell effects quality06.01.2013 Task Description

Hi! As reported in "bug" (bug #5867) spell effects performance is pretty slow on Intel Sandybridge HD 3000 graphics. I understand that this may well be a driver / hardware limitation. Due to the extreme slowness its not easy to roleplay on events when other players cast effects, cause then basically I can not do anything anymore. Except for that the performance is quite nice for onboard gfx, enough for me at least, even at 1680x1050.

Cause of this I would like a way to reduce the quality of *just* the spell effects a bit. I found that I can disable them alltogether by setting shaders to "lowest". But any other settings for shaders doesn´t have any visible effect on performance. Also shaders to "lowest" worsens the other gfx as well.

I also learned I can disable spell effects altogether, by removing the *.eff files from effects directory.

What I would like now is a way to configure spell effects to reduced quality and (hopefully) improved performance. This may also be good for other users of old hardware.

Thanks,
Martin

Bug Report5869NoMovementMediumUnconfirmedskPermanently exhausted when dismounting rivnak14.01.2013 Task Description

First - It seems there is a delay in stamina measurment, so what can happen is that you are moving, getting low on stamina, you stop moving but even after that you can still get sometimes “You are exhausted” message. This is more a feature than bug, but I think it is important in this case. So now what happened:
I was riding a rivnak and got low on stamina. I continued riding and reached my target destination before I had actually run out of stamina, but I was very low at the time. I dismounted the rivnak and around this moment I got “You are exhausted” message. After I dismounted I couldn’t move - the game was saying that I was exhausted. I couldn’t cast spells or do anything that is prevevented when you are exhausted. However, the game was displaying I have full stamina (After dismounting a pet there is a small delay before your health and stamina values are updated to be on par with the current values.) and this did not change even after two minutes I was waiting. So the game still though I am exhausted - mounting again the pet did not help. Client restart helped of course.
I think that the problam may be somewhere between delayed “you are exhusted” message and after dismount stamina and health synchronization. It seems that when you receive in right (or wrong :) ) moment the exhaused message the synchronization after dismount fails in some way resulting in character being viewed as exhausted permanently.

Feature Request5906NoGUIMediumUnconfirmedRoman YagodinDisable display quantity for a slots with only one item25.02.20131 Task Description

I think, slots in all windows should not have quantity labels displayed then there is only one item.
It concerns inventory window (including equipment slots), a hotbar, container, exchange (could be), etc.

Feature Request5914NoQuestsMediumUnconfirmedErodare LenizusSkill Requirements and Time Locks28.02.20131 Task Description

Most quests start with an intro and a confirmation for the player to accept the quest. For those that have skill requirements and/or time locks, instead of hiding the quest completely, perhaps it would be better to expose such quests when the character is otherwise qualified (e.g completed other quests in the chain) and do the skill / time check in the intro steps and have the NPC inform the character that they need to practice more before they can continue, or say something along the lines of "too busy right now, come back tomorrow". This way the player will know the quest is there, and get a hint of what they need to do. Going around and touching all the NPC's and finding nothing just feels like a bug when one knows there should be quests out there someplace.

Feature Request5915NoQuests DynamicsMediumUnconfirmedErodare LenizusHide Completed Repeatable Quests28.02.2013 Task Description

I've done them…several times, and frankly I'm tired of seeing them offered. Could we have a setting for "Hide Completed Repeatable Quests" that we could enable to stop them form showing up? At least in one case, an NPC has enough repeaters that they show first and new quests are pushed to the 2nd page in NPC Dialog view. If one overlooks the page arrow, one might miss the other offerings.

Filed as Feature Request in Engine > Quest Dynamics…please move it if that's wrong.

Bug Report5932NoMagic SystemMediumNewVenalanGM detection using 'friendly AOE' spells09.03.2013 Task Description

It has been brought to my attention that friendly AoE spells can be used to detect invisible GMs who are within the range of the spell. A check on spells cast from accounts with 0 security could be added that only allows friendly spells to be cast on targets which are ‘visible’ hereby preventing GMs from being targeted when invisible.

Feature Request5941NoCharacter CreationMediumUnconfirmedRoman YagodinImprove character name generation UI21.03.2013 Task Description

It can be handy to have two separate “Suggest name” buttons for first and last name fields in character creation screen.

It opens an easy way to find a nice combination of first / last name for a new character.

Feature Request5957NoUser InterfaceMediumUnconfirmedLusserallSome Shortcut/Options window features LShift/RShift++03.04.20131 Task Description

Not all shortcuts from shortcuts window are in "Options→Controls→Shortcuts"
If you set/change a key in shortcuts window the key does not get set/changed in options window until you relog.

The following is not really a bug but more feature request
If you set a key you can set
LShift - RShift
LCtrl - RCtrl
LAlt - RAlt

But if you make key combos it will just turn to
Shift+key
Ctrl+key
Alt+key

Would it be possible to set
LShift+key
LCtrl+key
LAlt+key
RShift+key
RCtrl+key
RAlt+key

That will open up allot more possible key combinations.

Feature Request5984NoMiscMediumUnconfirmedJThompsonNaturals in music16.04.20132 Task Description

Since you can set the sharps and flats for the overall piece of music, you should be able to insert naturals. Otherwise, if you need to cancel one of the sharps/flats for the key you are using anywhere in the music, your only alternative is to write in all the sharps and flats throughout by hand.

Feature Request5985NoMiscMediumUnconfirmedJThompsonMusic - Numbered Measures, Ability to play part of a pi...16.04.20131 Task Description

It would be helpful if measures were numbered.
It would be extremely helpful for writing music to be able to just play the last measures added. It would be useful for RP purposes, too, since that is how one often practices a piece… working on one section at a time, or you might want to share part of something you had written.

Bug Report5989NoModels and MapsMediumUnconfirmedKaerli StronwylleMap leak in bdoorsin leads to "unleak" and subsequent c...03.04.2016 Task Description

/pos: bdoorsin -180.54 19.71 -864.52

How to reproduce: Run into the area between the large boulder and the cliff face there.

What should happen: Your char should, at worst, have to /unstick out of it, or be respawned due to the map leak.

What does happen:

  1. Your char (sometimes) gets ‘leaked’ off the map and starts to fall through it
  2. As your char falls, they get put back in the normal map area because of the concavity of the cliff face below the path there.
  3. Result: a DR trip, because your character goes “splat” at the bottom of the Bronze Doors canyon.
Bug Report6025NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedJThompsonCrafting confusion -erroneous error message11.06.2013 Task Description

I was working on a batch of Liquid Bread Rise and kept getting “You are not sure what to do with this.” I realize this will probably be nearly impossible to reproduce so I’ll try to explain as best I can exactly what I was doing.

I had started by combining the ingredients (1 Foaming Water, 2 Pinches of Salt, 14 Scoops of Lard) on the preparation table, yielding Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough. Then decided to combine them in the wooden bowl so I could go straight to the mixing step. I had already combined 3 when I switched. I added the ingredients to the wooden bowl and combined, letting it automatically do the mixing step, and this worked fine. The I tried to mix the Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough I had previously combined on the table and that is when I got the “You are not sure what to do with this” message. As long as I combined the items in the wooden bowl and then mixed them I had no trouble. If I tried to put in previously combined Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough it gave me the error message. Several times I reflexively hit the Take All and Stack before it was mixed, and when I tried to put it back in the bowl and mix it I got the error message.
Eventually I had to stop and measure out more scoops of lard, which required switching my wooden spoon for the scoop, since I was also holding a Dagger of Seduction (and wearing a Merc Helm of Seduction, if that matters). After I switched back, I was able to mix the Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough without any trouble… for awhile. (I didn’t realize right away that was what made it work)
Eventually though the problem popped up again (when I prematurely grabbed the mix before it was done, and tried to put it back and finish mixing it, it said “You are not sure what to do with this”) Again, the problem resolved when I switched to measuring lard and back. This happened three times in all. I didn’t put together that it was when I switched tasks that it started working until the third time it happened, so I didn’t have a chance to try just switching tools to see if that was what was fixing it.

Feature Request6137NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedSlissChat window while loading new map24.08.2013 Task Description

I would like to continue chatting while I load to a different map. Can the chat window become independent and on top of all windows?

Bug Report6172NoUser InterfaceMediumUnconfirmedRasaratInterface>Advanced-Chat>Main chat brackets option broke...03.10.2013 Task Description

This appears to be an option to have lines that appear in Main chat prefaced by origin e.g. [guild], [alliance], etc., provided a user has filtered messages from other chat tabs to appear in Main. However, it seems to work whether or not the option is enabled. Is this a bug or just deliberately no longer an option?

Feature Request6181NoPetsMediumUnconfirmedAdamMOUNTS: System Alert Sound/Message In CHAT (SYSTEM TAB)...08.10.2013 Task Description

When a player summons a mount (creature to ride on), eventually the creature disappear depending on how high Empathy skill is.

When trying to use the RING Of SUMMON FAMILIAR again, it says it's depleted and can't be used.

Please kindly create an ALERT in the MESSAGE TAB of chat telling player how much time remaining is left to wait for the ring to be used again with a countdown and then a sound effect that reminds the player that magical energy is now regenerated in ring.

Bug Report6190NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedRezso GajdoczyRemoving guilds from alliances (/guildremove)14.10.2013 Task Description

messages.cpp misses another operand?

if(command == “/newguild” || command == “/endguild” || command == “/guildname” || command == “/guildpoints” || command == “/allianceleader”)

 {
     guildname = words.GetTail(1);
     return;
 }
Bug Report6191NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedRezso GajdoczyCommand - /guildmotd14.10.2013 Task Description

Setting guild MOTD is accidently tied to public notes privilege?

guildmanager.cpp

  if ( ! IsLeader(client))
      if ( ! CheckClientRights(client, RIGHTS_EDIT_PUBLIC, "You do not have rights to change the message of the day in your guild."))
          return;
Bug Report6193NoGuilds/GroupsMediumUnconfirmedRasaratCommands>Guild commands>/setmemberpermissions16.10.2013 Task Description

My understanding is that /setmemberpermissions [member-name] should allow a user with editing permissions to set/change individual guild member permissions, but the command seems to be broken. A bug or intentional?

Feature Request6215NoSettingMediumUnconfirmedErodare LenizusFrequent Flier Miles12.11.2013 Task Description

Pretty much says is all. Possibly depends on  FS#5366 

Venalan will understand :)

Bug Report6217NoMiscMediumUnconfirmedWade EilrichIncorrect grammar on website Story section13.11.2013 Task Description

Drifters Section

“This gas is highly acidic and damages a persons equipped items if they stand in the mist.”

This should be changed to:

This gas is highly acidic and damages a person’s equipped items if they stand in the mist.

Note the apostrophe to indicate a singular possessive noun (person’s).

Bug Report6240NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedRoman YagodinBook use commands mess21.11.20131 Task Description

For crafting book /use command equips book in mind slot - and it’s OK, I think.
But how to open crafting book for reading, as of RMB click in inventory?

Then dragging a book from inventory to shortcut window, /use command is created.
But /use command for common book just results in a book, equiped in righthand slot (in case it’s empty).
Book isn’t opened for reading nor writing, so where is no result of using it. So no /use…

After equipping a common book in a hand slot, /use [slot-name] command just kills the psclient… This one really unexpected :(

/write [item-name] command syntax not working on a writable book, resulting message is: “You cannot write on this item” -
but this syntax described in a Help window! And /write [slot-name] syntax works as expected.

I think it’s clear that /read command for a books must exist to make complete set. Some use cases:

* want to read any book - use /read [item-name] or /read [slot-name]
* want to write to a writable book - use /write [item-name] or /write [slot-name]
* want to equip / dequip any book - use /equip and /dequip commands

Sane default results for /use command:

* Crafting book - equip in a mind slot.

It's a reference book, to take a look from time to time in a crafting process, after all.

* Common book and writable book - open book reading window. Using a book in a real world means “read it”.

Other "uses" (as a blunt weapon, fuel, press-papier, etc.) are less common.
Bug Report6255NoEngineMediumNewVenalanTaladNolthrir mounted animation24.11.2013 Task Description

When a male nolthrir is mounted on a rivnak his legs stick into the rivnak.

Bug Report6261NoSoundMediumUnconfirmedJonSound effects based on camera position, not player25.11.2013 Task Description

I've noticed that the sound effects for things like fountains and fires seem to be based on where the camera is located, not where the player is.

To demonstrate, go to 3rd person follow mode and move the camera well back from the character. Position the character near a sound generating item (fireplace in front of temple works). You won't hear it. Move away from the object so that the camera is next to it and you will hear it.

Bug Report6269NoEngineMediumUnconfirmedErodare LenizusForward Non-Chat Keys To Shortcuts29.11.20131 Task Description

In the current state, if you have focus in the text box of the chat, none of your shortcut hotkeys work, even if they’re mapped to keys that do nothing in the chatbox, such as F1-12, Ctrl, Alt, Tab, Pause, etc.

I’m filing this as a bug report, because either this should be “fixed” so we can map shortcuts to such keys so they will still work while chatting, or the team can decide this is “not a bug” and close it.

The “fix” therefore, is to trap only those keys that chatbox can deal with, and forward anything else to the shortcut processor, so while typing in chat W A S D would be trapped in chat, and F3 would fire the shortcut it’s mapped to.

Feature Request6278NoUser InterfaceMediumUnconfirmedAndrew DraskoyUse object equiped in sword hand if no object is focuss...05.12.20131 Task Description

A UI improvement: This would make things much more convenient for spells like Dweomer Detection, but generally in cases where an action is performed on an object such as repairing weapons and armor. It would be great if the object of the action was (first choice) an external object that you have in focus. If there is no such object, use the one in the sword hand.

Right now, there is a mix of both of these things implemented. This would make it consistent and convenient. Right now it's quite awkward to have to drop an item, and then focus on it before casting a spell on it.

Bug Report6319NoMovementMediumUnconfirmedKaerli StronwyllePlayer character in two different positions at the same...04.01.2014 Task Description

The screenshots pretty much tell the whole story.

1) Have char A (Primatus for me) enter the GH and sit on some furniture.
2) Have char B (Sabor) log into the GH.

A on A’s client is atop the furniture, while on B’s client A is in the furniture. Probably a symptom of the known issues with object spawning in PS, but still….really guys?

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