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for every skill we get practices equal to time we spend while crafting but for repairing it is not true
the practices are equal to time the SECOND attempt repair the same item(so if i repair shield for 403 s i got 310 practices, second time i repaired it 310s )

would be great if we have two alternative way to training repairing: cheap that take longer and faster if we have to spend more cash
there are no bonuses for repairing complex items its only based how bad its damaged it seem

It’s stupid to not be able to trade (through right clicking the character and clicking ‘trade’) while over encumbered (having to sit down because you’re too heavy). But yet you can just make a shortcut or type /trade and it works.

So my point is, why?

(note: if this task has already been posted and discussed, I did search ‘Trade’ and ‘Trading’)

When a trade request is accepted, the inventory should open at the same time, but it does not.
Opening it yourself is not a big deal, of course, but it would be nice to have.

When you trade with and NPC and it is walking, it won’t stop, and you will no longer be able to buy or sell anything from it, since it will be far away from where you started to trade…

How about making it visible in Main if Players exchange items?
A system message appears to the ones trading anyways at this moment.
the message to others should however have some less precision, like:

 "<PlayerA> gave <PlayerB> Weapons and some coinage in exchange for raw materials"
 for someone trading a crafted longsword, a dagger, 2 hexa and a tria against 45 platinum ore and a silver ingot.

this in order to keep realism (can all see how many circles and tria he pushed into the other persons hand?)
the message could use the item_category, and eliminate doubles, so it could be done without giant changes to the database.

the advantages I would see in this:

 1.) there will be visible interaction between players. no more pure tell-based sales that (imho) are pretty ooc.
     Noone IRL (and especially not in the middle ages) would go into a shop and whisper in the cashiers ear what he whishes to sell or buy.
     Instead people going into a shop (not a supermarket) usually say good day followed by a statement on what they seek to buy (maybe even some smalltalk).
     Neither would such item exchange go unnoticed by other people in the shop or near the exchange.
     So I think it would add to realism. Unless the character you play would be blind.
 2.) Stealthy and sneaky exchanges of goods would have to take place in dark alleys, like sneaky things should be done.
 3.) Hopefully the messages in main would encurage Players to take the general and casual trade-talk into main as well,
     instead of hiding it in tells in order to not 'disturb' other players. 
     If IRL there are others talking near you, you step away a little to give and have more privacy as well.
 4.) It also would surely add some spying capabilities into the game, as it then could indeed be seen to all around who trades with who.
     This will make it possible to IC-ly spy on others trade behaviours. This without the need of having to be telling or grouping with the ones spied on. 

disadvantages:

 1.) Anyone could see who would trade with who, people who use quest runners would have to find a reason why they would get items for free.. 
     (or take the trade to a dark alley).
 2.) Someone could 'spam' the main-channel with trade messages. (but that's easier by sitting and standing up, or by dropping items and pick them up)
 3.) some things I probably didn't thik about yet. feel free to add..

Overall I think it would rather add to RP then desturb it.
For slipping items to others unnoticed, there could/should be a ‘/givesecret’ option that would use the numbers behind the pickpocket/sneaking skills.

Suggestion

Add low base damage and fire damage to the torch.

Currently. you get an error message when trying to attack with the torch.

having tested one fix, i decided to check if i am able to climb out of the hole on the other side of the road into the desert at the rear of oja. i managed to get to /pos 566110.25 -393981.34 10081.11 where it then becomes too steep to continue the climb out.

version 0.7.30, not the 29 as listed

Since NPCs move, Narwin visits Ervin Fromaad and must pass Grimal on his way. So it doesn't make much sense anymore that he can't visit him in person and request the token himself.

There is tiny unreadable text in the Main tab of the chat, if you have font size 0 for Chat Text. Any chat that comes after it is fine, and it becomes readable if you change Chat Text Size, even if you change it back to 0 again.

It is the “<Player> just joined PlaneShift” text

The quest objective is to help a certain NPC find a missing object, that's what my char agreed to do. After finding the object and proceeding to final steps I suddenly receive a ready-made line "X listens to your story" and find my char spilling its friend and ally's whereabouts to X, with me having absolutely no means to prevent or stop it. Honest, it feels like being godmodded by the quest system and is awfully disappointing, to say the least. It also clashes with the general idea of quests being done ICly.

Dear Devs, please add a "not squealing" option, something like "I've just found it somewhere" and let the player deal with one of the main ingame alignments (Law) according to that player's RP. The way it is done now, it's not C&C, it's M&C, having to bear with consequences of the game mechanics, and somehow it doesn't feel right… at all.

PS Ver: 0.5.3

(Edited for clarity.)

Uses ranged sound attack

spams NPC chat tab with Attacks me using normal stance
and
emits A loud thundering noise

Does not actually attack me

It happens for me always again after “opening” and closing nodes. Sorry, haven’t found a way yet to reproduce it every time. Might add some more information here once I find out more ;)

It dispalys the newly opened node above a previously already opened one.

The list of guild members is not sortable by online status.

Expected result:

Sort them by a different field by clicking one of the columns.

Suggest making one of the icons for these a different color: Honey / Sapphire Orilliphia Syrup.
Currently they appear to use the same icon.

I think the command ‘/attack’ is bugged. I have tried many ways to check weather the bug is there or not, like I waited for the timer on the top left to finish before clicking for another slash of attack, tried to be carefull that i may not be pressing the right click, and ofcourse using Q & E to get the right attack skill. But still many times i get the system message “Command Not Recognized. Use /Help to see the list of available commands”, it cud be like you missed the target, the target dogged your attack etc. Please see that wheather its really a bug or not, if a bug then please Debug it. Thank you.

In the CC tab it says “Xiosa talks to you through nature,” Xiosa should be Xiosia.

The quest has a number of triggers that must be completed in order to progress that do not appear to be working in Unreal. The three I’ve found are:

1) Proximity to the rock with the action location that moves players into the cave,

2) Use of a cog/mechanism, moving one of the rocks, and

3) Solving the door puzzle and entering the small room.

I’m not sure if these are supposed to complete steps that are not sequential with the immediately previous steps, or if they are meant to set variables, but either way they don’t seem to be doing the job. Talking to Raithen gives no sign that you’ve completed any of these tasks, even if you’ve done them all.

I can get players past this by setting a later step manually, but given the (suspected) use of variables or non-sequential steps, it seems likely I’ll just mess things up for them.

Since the update to 5.9, the textures and shaders when in town seem to be either missing or messed up. The lighting in some areas makes Chars and NPCs look like they’re wearing TV static. I’ve checked the drivers for my graphics card (ATI Radeon 3100 in a Toshiba Satellite Laptop), and they are up to date. Please see the attached screenshots, and if any more info is required, I will be happy to provide.

Thank you for your time and attention. ~Timil~

The text in speech bubbles is hardly readable. It seems that the black shadow covers the bright colored text.

In Fishing Lessons for Fish, the quest dialog does not match the quest notes for that particular task. In one possible task the player is told to get 6 eels and 7 manta rays, but the quest notes say 7 eels and 6 manta rays. The player seemed to indicate that it was the notes that were wrong, but isn’t online for me to double-check.

I hope it is technically possible to programmatically request a further execution of the launcher as administrator to be able to exchange binaries in UAC protected directories (%ProgramFiles% or %ProgramFiles(x86)% under Windows Vista/7/8…); and may it just be by the launcher calling itself as a new instance executed under the Administrator account.

Other platforms than Windows may require a similar solution.

Possible addition of the ability to teleport all PC’s enrolled in an event at once to avoid accidentally grabbing a passer by with the area option.

PlaneShift Loyal Fan achievements regarding previous versions from “Played Atomic Blue” to “Played Arcane Chrysalis” I reckon should be account wide.

I created my account during Crystal Blue, but felt like playing a different character later meaning my main has none of these achievements.

It’s like a veteran status, but only applies if you kept your first character.

On getting teleported while sprinting almost fell off a steep abyss. Could have brought my char into death realm.

Might be a good idea to have a teleport freeze the char for a second or two so as I player have a good chance to react to the location change.

It would be nice if I could target a player with clicking his name in the group list

Hi
I seem to have a glytch where frequently (but not always) an NPC will not talk to me no matter how long I wait
However if I click “Bye” and try again he will now talk
It means I have to click every NPC when he wont speak to me twice to be sure there is no dialogue

When looting a monster, there is a system message in main chat saying “<mob> has no money to be looted” when you click “loot all” even if the monster does have money to be looted instead of the correct system message which should tell you how much money you looted (the amount of money looted could also be added to the loot window as a quality of life improvement).

If the monster doesn’t have any money, then there are two system messages in main chat saying “<mob> has no money to be looted”. One appears when you open the loot window, and once when you click “loot all”.

On my character Mewshad: 90 AGI, 75 CHA, 154 END, 55 INT, 100 STR, 90 WIL at 13 lvl in Sword. At every attack, I gain 1 point of practice on the training dummy. This means I need to click 200 times to get to the next level. I also tried to do the “special attack” but same there. I think Endurance and Strength is the reason since before I increased these attribute, sword leveling was faster.

Currently when an NPC doesn't have a quest for player, they essentially ignore the player. This can be bad because:

1) Sometimes (e.g. the circle way quests) this comes across as a bug since the player has been directed to talk to the NPC by another.

2) It's not always (in fact generally not) a realistic behaviour from a charactization PoV.

3) The chain quests are now very long and not obvious, so players have no idea what to do next.

4) It may be something else besides more quests that is necessary. How are players to know?

I think this should be changed, and propose the following dynamic as a possibility:

A "sociability" metric would be calculated for each interaction between player and NPC based on:
factions, prerequisites required for quests, and a base number assigned to each NPC. This metric will indicate how well-disposed the NPC is towards giving quest info the player at this time. Depending on this metric (lets say a number from 0-5) the NPC could say something (or ignore the player if the number is 0). The higher the number, the more useful and specific is the response.

Some characters are grumpy by nature and will almost always ignore people or give gruff responses (like now). Many are just typical and will offer canned default responses, expect that for the higher metrics these will hint that they will have something for you later. Ideally the highest metric will look up who gives the pre-requisite quest and direct you there.

Each quest could specify overrides for any of the responses.

When you add a filter string to the /study window the empty lines between the item entries is lost such that you end up with long list of items. I think it might look better if the empty lines were maintained when a search string is entered

I would be nice to have the option to set the filter string to “item names” or “processes”. Such that you could search for an item “battle axe” and only see the steps under the heading “battle axe*” or search processes for things like “apple” and see every step that uses an apple.

In the Glyphs tab of the Store screen of Legacy, glyphs were shown as purified or not. This is not the case in PSU.

I would like to request that saved quest notes be moved from client side into the book database. currently the quest notes are saved locally and are very vulnerable frequently getting deleted during client repair or re installs. additionally for players who have more than one computer these notes do not properly persist between clients.

considering that players are already allowed to write books and that text data takes up very little space there is really no reason NOT to move this feature server side.

another major issue with the current implementation is that the quest’s description is missing a lot of key information provided by the npc conversation such as names and locations.

a perfect example is the quest Masked Mistress where the description tells you the summary however does not include her brothers name which is given in the npc dialogue.

the lost of quest notes can easily render a quest impossible to complete without asking a person for spoilers or searching through game logs for the missing conversation.

Sometimes I whish to have the ability to store my alchemy sack, or my crafting sack in storage with its content. So I can easily gab it when I want to work on it so naming the sacks (PS#457) would be ideal.

Many Skills are NOT yet implemented, which is perfectly understandable.

Please kindly HIGHLIGHT with another color (representing NOT YET IMPLEMENTED) which skills have NOT been worked on yet.

This will greatly help ALL players know which ones are full completed and which ones are not, especially NEW PLAYERS who won't waste time trying to figure out what has not been worked on yet.

Recommended Color: Bright Purple (easy to see and readable)

I have been playing around with the llvm/clang static source code analyzer (http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html) for a while, and thought it might be fun to run it on the planeshift source code (svn r8433). Even though especially the c++ analyzer is still viewed as beta quality at this time, the results are interesting and can be found here :

http://lbalbalba.x90x.net/clang-analyzer/planeshift/

Talking to Menita and confirming the quest with “I will try” crashes the server.

musicians trying to sync up to play as a band/group is difficult.
to fix this i suggest commands /groupplay and /groupstop be made
the musicians would form a group and each one would put the song they are to play in their left hand (that way one person can play a flute piece and another plays a lira piece, another drums, etc)
the group leader would issue the commands for starting and stopping
the system would broadcast the command to each client to start playing (like the way group chat is sent to the members of the group).
the piece would play at the default speed for the music score
if the group is disbanded while playing everyone would have to automatically stop playing
if a player leaves the group they would have to automatically stop playing too.

only difficulty I would see is if one of the players is unable to play the selected piece at the default speed, the system would either have to have that person not play with an error of not talented enough or play at the fastest they can play (which would sound bad but be realistic)

I tried attacking a kikiri with two ‘Dark Dagger’ and I got the following system messages

(20:29:33) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:29:33) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >You’ve gained 1 practice points in Knives & Daggers.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.
(20:30:37) >Your dark weapon drains 10 HP from Venalan.

So every attack I do with two Dark Daggers is doing two rounds of extra damage and not just one extra round of damage.

System tab: Could the information there be split up further, like for the logs, into something like combat, crafting, soul commands (emotes and interaction commands like /greet), so you can have more control what is shown in Main tab?

This was briefly discussed in the Dev meeting (22/02/2015), and should be assigned to Eredin.

Thank you.

while hammering a heated alpha ps sba blade I was able to start spell research without int erupting the hammering.

At the moment, there is no way to get a players attention if (s)he is not watching PS. I think there should be an extra sound (settable via options) that is played whenever somebody receives a tell and/or whenever somebody’s name is mentioned. Maybe these should even be two different settings in options.

I've noticed that the sound effects for things like fountains and fires seem to be based on where the camera is located, not where the player is.

To demonstrate, go to 3rd person follow mode and move the camera well back from the character. Position the character near a sound generating item (fireplace in front of temple works). You won't hear it. Move away from the object so that the camera is next to it and you will hear it.

List of all bugs regarding sound to be fixed for next release.

Sometimes I would which i could sort the storage list in a different way. Would it be possible to add bi-directional sort options in the storage/buy window?

Redo quest/events implementation to send/receive, also remove XML.

Not all shortcuts from shortcuts window are in "Options→Controls→Shortcuts"
If you set/change a key in shortcuts window the key does not get set/changed in options window until you relog.

The following is not really a bug but more feature request
If you set a key you can set
LShift - RShift
LCtrl - RCtrl
LAlt - RAlt

But if you make key combos it will just turn to
Shift+key
Ctrl+key
Alt+key

Would it be possible to set
LShift+key
LCtrl+key
LAlt+key
RShift+key
RCtrl+key
RAlt+key

That will open up allot more possible key combinations.

Some options in settings are not being saved after closing the game. They revert to default or adopt other settings.

- Interface → Visible shortcut rows

- Controls → quickbar → shortcuts (Conflicts with “Others” menu → “shortcuts” bar?)

- Chat logs directory → time stamps (May not be functional?)

Issues with shortcuts / quickbar / “shortcut bar” / “macro editor” are the most noticeable and make assigning shortcuts a time-consuming task that requires restarting the game multiple times over.

When inspecting player characters (via right-click and eye-icon) the paragraph at the end of the description tab that comes with the standard stats and weapons/mnagic skills estimate is missing for SOME characters.

An example being “Duergar Melayk”.

I've just tested some Pet commands (by using a summoned familiar) and the following commands don't seem to reach the familiar NPC:
/pet [name,] assist
/pet [name,] guard
/pet [name,] run
/pet [name,] walk

Please note the Minion behaviour used for pets is using almost the same data in SVN. The steps I used to replicate the bug:
1. summoned a familiar
2. issue a command /pet [name,] follow/stopattack/stay/run/walk
3. use the /info command to know the last perceived command.

When reaching step 3 the info command should show something like that:
(12:08:36) [System] >Last perception: ownercmd:stopattack
instead for the above commands an error message is outputted (just like the command was wrongly typed or isn't recognized).

By using the percept command on the NPC like /percept ownercmd:run the behaviour is correctly run and works as expected.

Also please note that assist/guard commands appear in the help.xml file while the new run/walk don't.