PlaneShift

while speaking with an advisor eariler today he had instructed my to come to the bugtracker here, but had made a typo in the link pointing me to “http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/flypray” which I had cought and corrected before coming here. As it stands, I’m very familiar with FlySpray from working on other projects so the typo was trivial for me, but other players might not be so keen. I think an easy way of “fixing” the issue of typos for common resources would be to allow Advisors to have encapsulated snippets containing the links. a few examples would be;

(fs) would be replaced with http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/flyspray

(forums) would be replaced with http://www.planeshift.it/forums.html

(guide) would be point to http://www.planeshift.it/quickstart.html

Etc, Etc..

I don’t know exactly what languages the PlaneShift client/server uses, but if it uses Python this would be a fairly trivial addition.

With a plenty of crafted and looted weapons and armor around, there is a need for some basic identification service running by NPC (e.g. Levrus).

To make a ground for an business and relations between real players, NPC identification service should be:

1) expensive
2) less than 100% successful (how about 75%?)
3) limited by item quality / price

/put [amount] item
Into a opened container even when non selected for like sacks that are in your inventory.

/take [amount|all] [stack] [item]
Out of a opened container even when non selected for like sacks that are in your inventory.

/loot [group] [item|all|trias]
Loot a specific item or all items without opening the loot window.

Currently, all crafting requires a full setup of equipment (fixed-in-the-world crafting containers) for that craft. This makes sense for some crafting skills such as blacksmithing and to an extent alchemy; however, basic cooking and herbalism (and other crafts TBD) should be possible with only portable crafting containers (such as a campfire and pan or a simple, portable mortar and pestle). This would also require new crafting books: “Campfire Recipes” anyone?

Since you can set the sharps and flats for the overall piece of music, you should be able to insert naturals. Otherwise, if you need to cancel one of the sharps/flats for the key you are using anywhere in the music, your only alternative is to write in all the sharps and flats throughout by hand.

I think it would be a great feature to make a new type of NPC quests on working title "Skill quests".
It would work similar to the current quests are being developed, so you can get repeatable quests from NPCs regarding to your current skill levels, like cooking/baking quests from Harnquist.

These skill quests would repeat daily (or in any other considered time periods) and crafters could pick orders up from their trainers or other NPCs.
NPC places an order on crafting a certain item that player need to craft and would get huge amount of SKILL PRACTICE as reward for fulfilling the order.

It wouldn't touch the current skill progression system, so someone could 'grind' a skill if they wish to do that.
But we all know, how slow it is now to progress in any crafting skill.

See an example:
The rule settings team think, someone has spent 3 months with developing their blades making skill, should be at level 100 in blades making without grinding.
If a player would play regulary and come back on 60 days, and does the skill quests from NPC, they would get enough skill practice to reach level 100.

Let's say the next level of the skill would take 2 hours of mindless grinding.
But if the player would come back regulary and would do the skill quest, they could reach the same level with making (let's say) 3 products for order.
The items to be crafted would also be different, regarding to the skill level of the player and what items are craftable in the skill.
So, a player would be asked to make a sabre, a falchion, an axe or a shortsword for example.

The advantage of the extended system would be:
- rule settings developers could define a minimum time within someone should reach a certain level in their skill
- the players wouldn't need to grind all playing time spent in PS to reach their skill levels, so they could role play more or work on other skills
- the players would come back more regulary to develop their favorite skills, because the quests would repeat daily

When you are editing a book and you hit OK to indicate you are finished it closes the book altogether, so you have to reopen the book to see the changes. Since formatting can take quite a bit of trial and error, it quickly becomes annoying to constantly have to reopen the book. With music and maps, when you finish editing you simply click the Edit icon again and it exits Edit mode, leaving the music/map open. It would be nice if books worked the same way.

I would like the limit of stacks per category being increased. As Alchemist (one of my occupations ) I need to store from a lot of essences with different quality for the best quality products. While this limit was set after my category was already over the 200 i have a double problem as I cannot work. whatever I take out I cannot put back. So I am looking for the old style mules to help me out? I guess it is better to increase the limit a bit more. 300?

Crashes sometimes occur while unequipping a Master’s Dark Way Wand or mounting while it is equipped.

Since the quest chains were introduced, and many indirect prerequisites for the availability of a quest, I now waste a lot of time scanning each NPC for the very few which have a quest available at the moment, regarding my current list of completed quests, over and over again.

The additional vague hints which are being added to the end of quests are not sufficient because on one hand they may fail, and on the other hand they help better when I just started a new character, not when my experienced character is already in the middle of many quest chains.

I don’t expect a big fat rotating question mark above an NPC’s head; it can well be a less remarkable change – like a different color, outline, or font style for the label, or a slight translucent highlight effect.

I need potions : curse ,diseases,paralyzation, and poison for completion as well stupidity potions that lower magic way skill for shoort duration

It would be extremely useful to have a dedicated file for all quest chat that you could enable.

During the last Dev Meeting, there was a good discussion about looting problems, especially after killing multiple opponents.
Aliasing with “/target next” does not solve the problem, because several players confirmed that this command tends to skip corpses.

Therefore Eredin asked for this ticket as a reminder to check the command.

Sometimes when talking to an NPC during a quest, it’s not obvious that saying something will end it early. For example, in the Dizzy Bevon quest, telling Charisa that you can’t get into the Winch abruptly ends it. Meaning you will never see the rest of that quest, even if you get Winch access. I thought that she would wait instead, which would be more fair to players. Apparently this game wasn’t as forgiving as I imagined. Failing quests is especially annoying when it involves typed answers too, where a typo or not being specific enough will cost you the quest. (Even if you knew the right answer.)

First of all, I feel there shouldn’t be an option to finish a quest early unless you fail, the options being either you complete it fully or save it for later. This would be much more player-friendly. I didn’t even fail the quest, I just couldn’t get into the Winch. I feel like I was punished for being honest, and possibly have missed out on some reputation forever.

Who in the right mind would back out of a quest after accepting it, anyway? I doubt anyone does it intentionally. These sorts of choices should be greatly reduced. It only makes sense during evil quests where you might feel bad about what you’re doing. If someone is feeling lazy or is busy, then they can complete the quest later, like in any other game. If these dialog options are going to remain in the game, then it may be better if they had a warning such as (ENDS QUEST), while the true ending of the quest could say (COMPLETES QUEST). This would help players avoid making infuriating mistakes like mine.

Secondly, sometimes it is too easy to fail a quest when typed answers are involved. In the Stolen Dagger (sp?) quest from Ojaveda where you have to tell Enach what it looked like, if you say “diamond”, or “diamonds”, instead of “diamonds and opals”, you will get the uneventful ending. This is made even more ridiculous because the answer is in your quest log, so it shouldn’t be possible to get it incorrect anyway. But you only get one chance. Basically, I feel quests that rely on typed text should be more forgiving, because sometimes it’s not about whether you’re right or wrong. Rather, it may depend on how many variations of the correct answer there are, so a lot of the time it isn’t the player’s fault. Sure, maybe “diamond” isn’t that specific, but it definitely narrows it down. If I say diamond, Enack should say something like “Anything else?”.

currently transforms from parts back into ingots are not listed in the books relevant on a consistent basis. They may be in some books but are not in the shield books. It would be good to have a list, comprehensive across skills or otherwise, so that players can know which ones are possible.

You can show the Help dialog (menu button or /show help); but to read the verbose explanation about a specific command, you have to search for it in the tree of categories, which may be a little time consuming.

It may be helpful for more experienced users to have a command which opens the Help dialog and navigates to the topic about the command if it exists.

I could imagine e.g. a command like /about command to call the verbose help for the topic /command.

For folks who have older computer systems, sometimes the only way to get PS to work is to have setting on lowest and have weather turned off. But weather is a good RP point so it would be nice to be able to tell what weather is happening even if you can’t see it. It would be nice to have that information next to the time in the information window, or if that isn’t possible, perhaps a command query /weather that will return the current weather of the sector you are in.

When a shortcut that uses an icon is moved the name of the shortcut disappears and is replaced with the shortcut number.

Right now, the only jewelry metals available in the game are gold, silver, and platinum, which leaves Ynnwn out in the cold RPwise. Considering that IRL, copper alloys (brasses and bronzes both) were and are still used for jewelrymaking – it would be logical to add those at some point down the road, to provide at least *one* Ynnwn-compatible option…

Some options in settings are not being saved after closing the game. They revert to default or adopt other settings.

- Interface → Visible shortcut rows

- Controls → quickbar → shortcuts (Conflicts with “Others” menu → “shortcuts” bar?)

- Chat logs directory → time stamps (May not be functional?)

Issues with shortcuts / quickbar / “shortcut bar” / “macro editor” are the most noticeable and make assigning shortcuts a time-consuming task that requires restarting the game multiple times over.

Mugs are a staple of RP for many people, but their use is currently quite unrealistic – you “drink” away a solid glass object.

What I proprose to fix this may not be purely realistic, but at least makes sense.

When an object is consumed, it should leave behind an “empty” (mug, potion bottle, jar, etc.) which will appear in the inventory. The cost of items which come in containers should be increased, as “deposit” or sorts, like when people buy pop or beer in real life. People would be able to sell the empty back to reclaim their deposit.

In the case of mugs of alcohol, they could be strewn about on the table as the drinking goes on, so people know who’s been drinking too much. There wouldn’t be any worry about “littering”, as there would always be someone willing to pick up after and return them to Allelia or Brado for the deposit money.

If this is implemented, it would also allow for future features like being able to return to Allelia or Brado for a “refill” without needing to pay the deposit. Same for potions and other items that are sold in containers.

Also the possibility of putting other liquids into the containers. It would be neat for example to be able to stop by the secret garden and fill up a bottle, mug or bucket with fresh water from the pool (it could be done by the usual right-click method on an object).

I feel these sorts of things would help improve the RP and realism a great deal.

You already mentioned that the former “Dweomer detection”, which only vaguely returns a possible enchantment of a weapon, is rather useless as there are also buffs which are not at all obvious regarding stats and skills.

Not to waste the spell in general, I wonder if it was possible to implement instead that a similar one could be used to detect the presence of natural resources. Depending on some experience level, possibly in combination with another glyph (e.g. Earth, Animal, Tree), it could enable the caster to only vaguely detect presence of areas in a more or less close range where mining, fishing, harvesting, etc. (generic type) might be possible (”You feel that harvesting could be possible here.”), up to a more detailed feeling that specific resources are probably in some vague but graduated distance (”You feel that fishing for carp could be possible just next to you.”).

Of course, any new spell could be created as well.

Misrepresentation of the character in the Inventory
All my dwarves (dark haired) are affected
I use a self-compiled client (0.5.4/0.5.5)
The same on Windows (0.5.4)

Use case, to check the Quality of an item before retrieving it from storage, similar to Legacy

currently the spell will drain well over 1000 mana points
normal max mana is 500

perhaps full duration of a cast at full power could drain 500

In the server list, you could have another “server” that’s really stored on the local machine. In this server, it starts the player in a pit with a bunch of NPCs casting spells over and over. Maybe 5 NPCs repeatedly casting magic light, and 20 casting random spells. The pit should be a “worst realistic case” scenario so that players can tinker with graphical settings in there.

windows and Linux, can’t just click on a green buddy to whisper.

When a trade request is accepted, the inventory should open at the same time, but it does not.
Opening it yourself is not a big deal, of course, but it would be nice to have.

Please allow additional rows for the shortcuts as well as more shortcuts per row. I utilized shortcuts quite a bit in the legacy game and I liked the ability to have small icons with a ton of shortcuts. This will probably need to be a setting to input the total number of rows and the number of shortcuts per row. The icons would need to scale to fit. Thank you for your consideration.

The NPC interaction window can only be controlled via mouse clicks, which is extremely cumbersome – particularly giving the full screen scale – bordering the unintuitive for some parts,.

Going back and forth between the menu entries and the dialogue window to click the progression arrow is cumbersone as well as leaving the view (and here we are extremely unintuitive) with a mouse click in the corner, instead of supporting the Escape key.

My proposals (ranked by importance, most important first):

1) allow for exiting the view by assigning the ESC key to the leave button
2) allow for dialogue progression by hitting the space bar (having your character jump in this view is really an expendable “feature”) or at least have the arrow key right assigned to that right pointing arrow appearing under the lefthand dialogue section.
3) selecting conversation options on the right-hand side via numbers 1-9 (range should suffice for 99% of the present cases).

When sitting, I think it should be possible to greet someone without standing up. It is a bit awkward to be sitting, and then stand and wave at someone and sit back down. I’m not sure if it is hard to implement the “wave” action while sitting, but that is what I think the effect should be. Just sit and wave. If you don’t think that “/greet” is appropriate while sitting, then perhaps just implement a visual “/wave” that can work when standing or sitting, although the only difference between the two are the system message.

Loosely related to  FS#2297  and  FS#2352  – when a guild member is online, I’d like to see the name displayed in the Buddy List automatically, possibly with a slightly different color (e.g. sky-blue, or like the customizable guild chat color). This could be toggled via an option like: “[X] Add guild mates to buddy list”.

2022: Reworked into show guild mate icon/flag in Buddy List

It would be nice to be able to set up camps for roleplay purposes.

Talking to Menita and confirming the quest with “I will try” crashes the server.

When I learned about the new transformation mode I took it upon myself to clean up our guildhouse.

In the process I removed many old items from the map and stored them in containers instead.

While I did this occasional crashes happened, which on returning seem to have deleted items stored in these containers.
I have lost roughly 70% of player generated/crafted items, some of historical value this way, as well as many player crafted weapons and armours of highest quality.

A very alarming issue.

If my asumption is correct the server automatically deletes any item that it suspects to be involved in crashes. While this maybe desired behaviour in terms of the technical side of things, in terms of a persistent game world this is REALLY, REALLY bad, if true.

When an npc talks the volume of the music ect makes it hard to hear them. Lets try setting all volume to 20% or so and see how that effects it.

It has happened to me a dozen times over since joining UR after it has replaced legacy, I relogged inside a guildhouse/law map and I am eternally falling for having spawned slightly beneath floor level.

In several instances I had to wait hours for a /tp back to the map, and so it is happening again today.

Please make a quick fix of this enabling players to teleport themselves back to the map in such a case. It’s a real downer to have to wait for a long time in such a case, particularly given the fact that you probably have to stay online for a GM to /tp and fix this. Huge waste of energy with the constant 3D animation.

This could also be of help if players are trapped in map geometry, inescapable pits, rifts and so on.

While sacks and other containers are good for bulk storage, they have the significant drawback of making the inventory harder to navigate, and sorting as well, especially since one can always only have exactly one container window open.

To fix this, one might consider the following ideas:

1) allow any number of container windows to be open, so one can simply put stuff from one container into another, instead of having to put it into the main inventory first.

2) instead, make the container window, once opened, refresh by what container you click on, instead of having to go the rightclick-select-open route

3) instead, make any containers append to the main inventory slot space, but replace the first slot with an image of the container, and clearly separate the appended areas from each other and from the main inventory space by a diferent frame style (could be different for each container type), or at least some additional space. Also, slot spaces that are not provided by a container should remain blank so that a container always starts at the first (second) slot of a fresh line.

When selecting a container, the appropriate window / slot area frame should flash or something so that one sees which container has which window.

4) Let container windows be resizable, and possibly more compact by default.

Mounts

After executing a dismount, I end up underneath (and partially inside of) the mount rather than beside it.

the server send DR updates to all group members even if the actor causing it is not in range and therefore the target client doesn’t have an actor associated with it.
this results in a “Stat request failed because CelClient not ready for EID:xxxxx” for each movement of the group member that is out of range.

In order for the custom channels to be useful, they need a convenient interface. The need for typing /x before stuff isn’t terribly annoying, but also not terribly convenient. However, the biggest issue is that with multiple such channels, all talk gets mangled into one. The designation for the originating channel doesn’t help much in that case.

Therefore it would be nice to be able to create and assign custom tabs to channels, which would then function just like any of the built-in tabs. It would be even nicer if that arrangement could be stored, which would go very well with the auto-joining of custom channels proposed elsewhere.

How to reproduce:
do something which require much physical stamina: move many stuff in your bag, do something at anvil or something another.
and then run following commands:
/sit
/unmount
/target <PET NAME>
/mount ←– here your physical stamina will be full!!!
/stand

seeing that furnature is one of the heavest item types in the game, redecorating guild halls can become tedious and god forbid things get cluttered it is not possible to eaisly move them to storage. my request is that typing /storage will work inside a guild hall as if you were targeting a storage npc. just for convienance sake.

When I try to select a grill in Brado’s tavern the pink rotating cross does not appear.
Right click works and brings up the action icons. However, putting meat in one of the slots and “use” the grill to grill the meat results in “You interrupted your work when you moved away” every time. Other items like preparation tables, pots, etc. work fine.

I’m running PS on:
Arch linux ( up to date system ) 86×64 intel core i5
mobility radeon HD5xxx series with up to date catalyst drivers.

I logged my console output but I can’t see anything relevant to the problem, could be me so here’s the link:
pastie

I would like it if you could set the default reaction to casting a spell or being attacked. I find it quite annoying to automatically be set to fully defensive when I cast a spell. I also find it annoying that when being attacked by a group of mobs your target focus jumps to whichever one hit you last.

When I cast electrotouch I want to hit my opponent and not change my stance. generally whenever I cast anything in melee I want to keep my previous stance.
When I am in a pile I want to kill what I am fighting before I start on another one. If I want to fight a different one I can so choose manually. It is also annoying that you often jump to a different mob before you are able to loot what you have just killed.

It would be great if there was a section to set these in the options.

In the case of electrotouch I tried to add /attack normal to my shortcut but it was processed and discarded before the spell finished casting. I appreciate you probably don’t want long chains of commands to be processed in turn as it could lead to botting, otherwise I would ask for one command to finish processing before the next is considered. Still it would be nice to repair all my armor with one keypress instead of 5.

I would find it extremely useful if I could select from 1, 5 and 10 amount when shift clicking a stack of raw materials. This would allow me to improve the efficiency of smelting by picking enough material to cast into stocks of the various types. I could then dump a stack of molten ore into the caster and shift click it to spread out the ores into castable portions. obviously the 5 and 10 amounts are for casting stocks from precious and non precious materials.

It would be useful for this to only apply to molten ores in the furnace as there is no need for ingot/stock to be smelted in these particular numbers.
It might be also useful in a forge or other crafting container to have the ability to set to an arbitrary amount when processing ingots or stock for weapon/shield/armor parts.

Perhaps instead of overloading the shift click in this way using the alt click instead would work but this might cause a problem for Apple type computers.

Changed task description to clarify request.

I would like it very much if crafting were to be redesigned more like combat. Instead of one action that takes many seconds to complete and generates only one practice or experience reward make it so that each hammer blow is considered and eligible for a reward. For example at level 10 it takes me about two minutes to turn 12 heated ore into 4 shield handles and I get one practice point and some experience at the end of that time. Under my proposed change it might take just as long but each hammer blow on the ingots would receive a success chance roll that would increment the percentage done. A series of low rolls would result in a failure, either junk metal or very low quality handles and a series of high rolls would result in faster time and/or higher quality handles. This would be analogous to hitting a mob until one of you is dead.

I believe this would be more fair in the long run and if it would seem to make great quality items too available the chance to succeed could be reduced.

I would like to be able to maintain my buddy list a bit better by adding extra info.

I use the list as many to also locate enemies. But the list gets longer and longer so I would like to add additional info to it. Like the guild when met etc.

Hard to spot, but if you go to the location and zoom in and out, and rotate it shows, also as second screenshot shows it also extends to left.

http://imageshack.us/f/16/shot16.jpg/
>Your current position is region: hysewers 11.73 -5.95 -166.09 0 angle: 247 (4.319690), sector : swr-darkgreen02

http://imageshack.us/f/220/shot17.jpg/ (10:19:08) >Your current position is region: hysewers 3.56 -5.70 -162.07 0 angle: 257 (4.491496), sector : swr-darkgreen02

The measurement of note durations is completely wrong. “Beats Per Minute” are no more what they used to be.