PlaneShift

When a trade request is accepted, the inventory should open at the same time, but it does not.
Opening it yourself is not a big deal, of course, but it would be nice to have.

affected version: 0.7.38 (couldn’t be set yet as the version)

When trying to drop an item on an occupied container slot, the item remains “in limbo”, i.e. nothing happens.

This affects crafting severly:
Shift-clicking a stack placed into a container, you have always been able to “fan out” stacks of items in containers for crafting processes that would individually change quality (thereby averaging the random factor of the process).
This is no longer possible.

When sitting, I think it should be possible to greet someone without standing up. It is a bit awkward to be sitting, and then stand and wave at someone and sit back down. I’m not sure if it is hard to implement the “wave” action while sitting, but that is what I think the effect should be. Just sit and wave. If you don’t think that “/greet” is appropriate while sitting, then perhaps just implement a visual “/wave” that can work when standing or sitting, although the only difference between the two are the system message.

Mugs are a staple of RP for many people, but their use is currently quite unrealistic – you “drink” away a solid glass object.

What I proprose to fix this may not be purely realistic, but at least makes sense.

When an object is consumed, it should leave behind an “empty” (mug, potion bottle, jar, etc.) which will appear in the inventory. The cost of items which come in containers should be increased, as “deposit” or sorts, like when people buy pop or beer in real life. People would be able to sell the empty back to reclaim their deposit.

In the case of mugs of alcohol, they could be strewn about on the table as the drinking goes on, so people know who’s been drinking too much. There wouldn’t be any worry about “littering”, as there would always be someone willing to pick up after and return them to Allelia or Brado for the deposit money.

If this is implemented, it would also allow for future features like being able to return to Allelia or Brado for a “refill” without needing to pay the deposit. Same for potions and other items that are sold in containers.

Also the possibility of putting other liquids into the containers. It would be neat for example to be able to stop by the secret garden and fill up a bottle, mug or bucket with fresh water from the pool (it could be done by the usual right-click method on an object).

I feel these sorts of things would help improve the RP and realism a great deal.

Loosely related to  FS#2297  and  FS#2352  – when a guild member is online, I’d like to see the name displayed in the Buddy List automatically, possibly with a slightly different color (e.g. sky-blue, or like the customizable guild chat color). This could be toggled via an option like: “[X] Add guild mates to buddy list”.

2022: Reworked into show guild mate icon/flag in Buddy List

It would be nice to be able to set up camps for roleplay purposes.

It is possible to mine while sitting on a mount. I propose to remove this ability because it seems unrealistic to me.

You already mentioned that the former “Dweomer detection”, which only vaguely returns a possible enchantment of a weapon, is rather useless as there are also buffs which are not at all obvious regarding stats and skills.

Not to waste the spell in general, I wonder if it was possible to implement instead that a similar one could be used to detect the presence of natural resources. Depending on some experience level, possibly in combination with another glyph (e.g. Earth, Animal, Tree), it could enable the caster to only vaguely detect presence of areas in a more or less close range where mining, fishing, harvesting, etc. (generic type) might be possible (”You feel that harvesting could be possible here.”), up to a more detailed feeling that specific resources are probably in some vague but graduated distance (”You feel that fishing for carp could be possible just next to you.”).

Of course, any new spell could be created as well.

When the GSoC was successful enhancing the tribe code, it could be interesting to create one or two of Kormi which try to avoid approaching players but stay together.

That may require organising a witch hunt / drive hunt as strategy, which may support grouped activities.

A book is saved on the local disk with the custom title entered while writing its content. This is very inconvenient if the book has a quite verbose title, then the filename is just as verbose, and if you want to load this text into a copy of this book, you need to type exactly the same book title into the loading filename dialog. Or you need to know where books are located outside the game and rename the saved file there.

I'd like to be able to specify a brief filename to save a book to. The filename dialog may be pre-filled with the suggested filename based on the book title, but I'd like to change it before saving, if desired.

An "Undo" button on the new music writer that could go back at least one step would be very helpful. Thanks!!

it would be nice for bards if they had hats where passers-by could throw some tria in. The hat item would serve as a money container as well as a piece of clothing. The advantages to just throwing tria on the ground are that people can’t just steal the money and it would look nicer.

while speaking with an advisor eariler today he had instructed my to come to the bugtracker here, but had made a typo in the link pointing me to “http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/flypray” which I had cought and corrected before coming here. As it stands, I’m very familiar with FlySpray from working on other projects so the typo was trivial for me, but other players might not be so keen. I think an easy way of “fixing” the issue of typos for common resources would be to allow Advisors to have encapsulated snippets containing the links. a few examples would be;

(fs) would be replaced with http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/flyspray

(forums) would be replaced with http://www.planeshift.it/forums.html

(guide) would be point to http://www.planeshift.it/quickstart.html

Etc, Etc..

I don’t know exactly what languages the PlaneShift client/server uses, but if it uses Python this would be a fairly trivial addition.

With a plenty of crafted and looted weapons and armor around, there is a need for some basic identification service running by NPC (e.g. Levrus).

To make a ground for an business and relations between real players, NPC identification service should be:

1) expensive
2) less than 100% successful (how about 75%?)
3) limited by item quality / price

/put [amount] item
Into a opened container even when non selected for like sacks that are in your inventory.

/take [amount|all] [stack] [item]
Out of a opened container even when non selected for like sacks that are in your inventory.

/loot [group] [item|all|trias]
Loot a specific item or all items without opening the loot window.

Currently, all crafting requires a full setup of equipment (fixed-in-the-world crafting containers) for that craft. This makes sense for some crafting skills such as blacksmithing and to an extent alchemy; however, basic cooking and herbalism (and other crafts TBD) should be possible with only portable crafting containers (such as a campfire and pan or a simple, portable mortar and pestle). This would also require new crafting books: “Campfire Recipes” anyone?

Since you can set the sharps and flats for the overall piece of music, you should be able to insert naturals. Otherwise, if you need to cancel one of the sharps/flats for the key you are using anywhere in the music, your only alternative is to write in all the sharps and flats throughout by hand.

I think it would be a great feature to make a new type of NPC quests on working title "Skill quests".
It would work similar to the current quests are being developed, so you can get repeatable quests from NPCs regarding to your current skill levels, like cooking/baking quests from Harnquist.

These skill quests would repeat daily (or in any other considered time periods) and crafters could pick orders up from their trainers or other NPCs.
NPC places an order on crafting a certain item that player need to craft and would get huge amount of SKILL PRACTICE as reward for fulfilling the order.

It wouldn't touch the current skill progression system, so someone could 'grind' a skill if they wish to do that.
But we all know, how slow it is now to progress in any crafting skill.

See an example:
The rule settings team think, someone has spent 3 months with developing their blades making skill, should be at level 100 in blades making without grinding.
If a player would play regulary and come back on 60 days, and does the skill quests from NPC, they would get enough skill practice to reach level 100.

Let's say the next level of the skill would take 2 hours of mindless grinding.
But if the player would come back regulary and would do the skill quest, they could reach the same level with making (let's say) 3 products for order.
The items to be crafted would also be different, regarding to the skill level of the player and what items are craftable in the skill.
So, a player would be asked to make a sabre, a falchion, an axe or a shortsword for example.

The advantage of the extended system would be:
- rule settings developers could define a minimum time within someone should reach a certain level in their skill
- the players wouldn't need to grind all playing time spent in PS to reach their skill levels, so they could role play more or work on other skills
- the players would come back more regulary to develop their favorite skills, because the quests would repeat daily

When you are editing a book and you hit OK to indicate you are finished it closes the book altogether, so you have to reopen the book to see the changes. Since formatting can take quite a bit of trial and error, it quickly becomes annoying to constantly have to reopen the book. With music and maps, when you finish editing you simply click the Edit icon again and it exits Edit mode, leaving the music/map open. It would be nice if books worked the same way.

I would like the limit of stacks per category being increased. As Alchemist (one of my occupations ) I need to store from a lot of essences with different quality for the best quality products. While this limit was set after my category was already over the 200 i have a double problem as I cannot work. whatever I take out I cannot put back. So I am looking for the old style mules to help me out? I guess it is better to increase the limit a bit more. 300?

Since the quest chains were introduced, and many indirect prerequisites for the availability of a quest, I now waste a lot of time scanning each NPC for the very few which have a quest available at the moment, regarding my current list of completed quests, over and over again.

The additional vague hints which are being added to the end of quests are not sufficient because on one hand they may fail, and on the other hand they help better when I just started a new character, not when my experienced character is already in the middle of many quest chains.

I don’t expect a big fat rotating question mark above an NPC’s head; it can well be a less remarkable change – like a different color, outline, or font style for the label, or a slight translucent highlight effect.

I need potions : curse ,diseases,paralyzation, and poison for completion as well stupidity potions that lower magic way skill for shoort duration

It would be extremely useful to have a dedicated file for all quest chat that you could enable.

Sometimes when talking to an NPC during a quest, it’s not obvious that saying something will end it early. For example, in the Dizzy Bevon quest, telling Charisa that you can’t get into the Winch abruptly ends it. Meaning you will never see the rest of that quest, even if you get Winch access. I thought that she would wait instead, which would be more fair to players. Apparently this game wasn’t as forgiving as I imagined. Failing quests is especially annoying when it involves typed answers too, where a typo or not being specific enough will cost you the quest. (Even if you knew the right answer.)

First of all, I feel there shouldn’t be an option to finish a quest early unless you fail, the options being either you complete it fully or save it for later. This would be much more player-friendly. I didn’t even fail the quest, I just couldn’t get into the Winch. I feel like I was punished for being honest, and possibly have missed out on some reputation forever.

Who in the right mind would back out of a quest after accepting it, anyway? I doubt anyone does it intentionally. These sorts of choices should be greatly reduced. It only makes sense during evil quests where you might feel bad about what you’re doing. If someone is feeling lazy or is busy, then they can complete the quest later, like in any other game. If these dialog options are going to remain in the game, then it may be better if they had a warning such as (ENDS QUEST), while the true ending of the quest could say (COMPLETES QUEST). This would help players avoid making infuriating mistakes like mine.

Secondly, sometimes it is too easy to fail a quest when typed answers are involved. In the Stolen Dagger (sp?) quest from Ojaveda where you have to tell Enach what it looked like, if you say “diamond”, or “diamonds”, instead of “diamonds and opals”, you will get the uneventful ending. This is made even more ridiculous because the answer is in your quest log, so it shouldn’t be possible to get it incorrect anyway. But you only get one chance. Basically, I feel quests that rely on typed text should be more forgiving, because sometimes it’s not about whether you’re right or wrong. Rather, it may depend on how many variations of the correct answer there are, so a lot of the time it isn’t the player’s fault. Sure, maybe “diamond” isn’t that specific, but it definitely narrows it down. If I say diamond, Enack should say something like “Anything else?”.

currently transforms from parts back into ingots are not listed in the books relevant on a consistent basis. They may be in some books but are not in the shield books. It would be good to have a list, comprehensive across skills or otherwise, so that players can know which ones are possible.

You can show the Help dialog (menu button or /show help); but to read the verbose explanation about a specific command, you have to search for it in the tree of categories, which may be a little time consuming.

It may be helpful for more experienced users to have a command which opens the Help dialog and navigates to the topic about the command if it exists.

I could imagine e.g. a command like /about command to call the verbose help for the topic /command.

For folks who have older computer systems, sometimes the only way to get PS to work is to have setting on lowest and have weather turned off. But weather is a good RP point so it would be nice to be able to tell what weather is happening even if you can’t see it. It would be nice to have that information next to the time in the information window, or if that isn’t possible, perhaps a command query /weather that will return the current weather of the sector you are in.

Right now, the only jewelry metals available in the game are gold, silver, and platinum, which leaves Ynnwn out in the cold RPwise. Considering that IRL, copper alloys (brasses and bronzes both) were and are still used for jewelrymaking – it would be logical to add those at some point down the road, to provide at least *one* Ynnwn-compatible option…

Use case, to check the Quality of an item before retrieving it from storage, similar to Legacy

currently the spell will drain well over 1000 mana points
normal max mana is 500

perhaps full duration of a cast at full power could drain 500

In the server list, you could have another “server” that’s really stored on the local machine. In this server, it starts the player in a pit with a bunch of NPCs casting spells over and over. Maybe 5 NPCs repeatedly casting magic light, and 20 casting random spells. The pit should be a “worst realistic case” scenario so that players can tinker with graphical settings in there.

Please allow additional rows for the shortcuts as well as more shortcuts per row. I utilized shortcuts quite a bit in the legacy game and I liked the ability to have small icons with a ton of shortcuts. This will probably need to be a setting to input the total number of rows and the number of shortcuts per row. The icons would need to scale to fit. Thank you for your consideration.

The NPC interaction window can only be controlled via mouse clicks, which is extremely cumbersome – particularly giving the full screen scale – bordering the unintuitive for some parts,.

Going back and forth between the menu entries and the dialogue window to click the progression arrow is cumbersone as well as leaving the view (and here we are extremely unintuitive) with a mouse click in the corner, instead of supporting the Escape key.

My proposals (ranked by importance, most important first):

1) allow for exiting the view by assigning the ESC key to the leave button
2) allow for dialogue progression by hitting the space bar (having your character jump in this view is really an expendable “feature”) or at least have the arrow key right assigned to that right pointing arrow appearing under the lefthand dialogue section.
3) selecting conversation options on the right-hand side via numbers 1-9 (range should suffice for 99% of the present cases).

In the NPC dialogs, there are several instances of modern-day abbreviations like "OK", "info" or "wow" (may be acceptable) being used. For example, in Fruntar's "Schaeminare soap" quest you can respond with "OK, where do I get this soap." (should be a question mark there, too). Also, in "A wife's dilemma", you can say to Tilavi "Ok, what kind of deal?". Maybe one could run a database search for "OK", "Ok", etc. on the NPC/quest responses to find all occurences?

the server send DR updates to all group members even if the actor causing it is not in range and therefore the target client doesn’t have an actor associated with it.
this results in a “Stat request failed because CelClient not ready for EID:xxxxx” for each movement of the group member that is out of range.

1) Ctrl-drag an item or use a shortcut bound to Ctrl-something
2) Note that your run toggle state just changed. :P

Using Ctrl or Shift as a modifier should “lock out” the functions bound to these keys by themselves.

How to reproduce:
do something which require much physical stamina: move many stuff in your bag, do something at anvil or something another.
and then run following commands:
/sit
/unmount
/target <PET NAME>
/mount ←– here your physical stamina will be full!!!
/stand

When I try to select a grill in Brado’s tavern the pink rotating cross does not appear.
Right click works and brings up the action icons. However, putting meat in one of the slots and “use” the grill to grill the meat results in “You interrupted your work when you moved away” every time. Other items like preparation tables, pots, etc. work fine.

I’m running PS on:
Arch linux ( up to date system ) 86×64 intel core i5
mobility radeon HD5xxx series with up to date catalyst drivers.

I logged my console output but I can’t see anything relevant to the problem, could be me so here’s the link:
pastie

Hard to spot, but if you go to the location and zoom in and out, and rotate it shows, also as second screenshot shows it also extends to left.

http://imageshack.us/f/16/shot16.jpg/
>Your current position is region: hysewers 11.73 -5.95 -166.09 0 angle: 247 (4.319690), sector : swr-darkgreen02

http://imageshack.us/f/220/shot17.jpg/ (10:19:08) >Your current position is region: hysewers 3.56 -5.70 -162.07 0 angle: 257 (4.491496), sector : swr-darkgreen02

Quest: Kilas wants his abacus back

[NPC] Kilas Tungse says: Do you think you can help me with a quick errand?
[NPC] $player says: I love to learn!
[NPC] Kilas Tungse says: Thanks.
[NPC] Kilas Tungse says: I lent my abacus to Crosh Dunehammer, the guardian of the dungeons.

vs.

[NPC] $player says: about dungeon
[NPC] Kilas Tungse says: What dungeon? Are you sure you heard right? If there was a dungeon anywhere nearby, I'm sure the city would've had it sealed off by now.

This "There is no dungeon" conspiracy makes consistent quests hard where inhabitants of the dungeon are involved.

The measurement of note durations is completely wrong. “Beats Per Minute” are no more what they used to be.

Since the update to 5.9, the textures and shaders when in town seem to be either missing or messed up. The lighting in some areas makes Chars and NPCs look like they’re wearing TV static. I’ve checked the drivers for my graphics card (ATI Radeon 3100 in a Toshiba Satellite Laptop), and they are up to date. Please see the attached screenshots, and if any more info is required, I will be happy to provide.

Thank you for your time and attention. ~Timil~

1) Abacus quest item in “Kilas wants his Abacus Back” looks like some sort of globus…

2) It is not clear from Crosh’s explanations, that numeric base he uses with 7-th beads abacus. It can be both 7 or 8, so right answer may be 64 (base 8) or 49 (if base 7 is used). If base 7 is used, the whole beads line is moved back (left) in same operation with moving its last 7-th bead to the right. Same alhorithm is used in real Russian abacus, which have 10 beads in a line for 10-th base calculations.

Maybe, 2) is not a bug, but it requires some more “out of game” explorations, than player may expect, or just “brute force” enumeration of possible aanswers. So, Crosh’s explanations about his calculations must be more clear:

Now: “When they’re all to the right, I move them all back and move bead in a second line…“
Must be like: “When they’re all to the right, and I need to count one more day, I move them all back and move bead in a second line…“

This can be fixed with brightness increse / decrease, but still wierd.

Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 on AMD A10-4600M with latest Catalyst 12.8

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when i try to register for the forum the last question is broken: what is the name of the underground version of the stalactite?
the answer should be stalagmite. (so far i tried several typos on both stalagmite and stalactite).

I Was going to make some apple jam biscuits recently as requested by Harnquist but I could not for the life of me find them in any of my cookbooks (I have all four!). Since Harnquist asked for it, I was pretty sure I could make it and took a guess that it should be in the Pastry Chef book that has the jam recipe and open biscuits. With that book in Mind, I was able to make the Apple Jam Biscuits, but I never did actually FIND the recipe. I checked with another cook just to make sure, and she couldn’t find it either. She also pointed out that the Bread with Apple Jam is also missing (the other Bread with Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam and Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam Biscuits, as well as the Bread with Butter and Buttered Biscuits are also missing.)

In the Making Enchanted Armor book I discovered that the skills you cannot do are not grayed out (AFTER I tried something, was told I didn’t have the skill, and looked more closely at my book! It does say the usual “WIth higher skill you could blah, blah, blah” but it’s the same color as the rest of the text).

For crafting book /use command equips book in mind slot - and it’s OK, I think.
But how to open crafting book for reading, as of RMB click in inventory?

Then dragging a book from inventory to shortcut window, /use command is created.
But /use command for common book just results in a book, equiped in righthand slot (in case it’s empty).
Book isn’t opened for reading nor writing, so where is no result of using it. So no /use…

After equipping a common book in a hand slot, /use [slot-name] command just kills the psclient… This one really unexpected :(

/write [item-name] command syntax not working on a writable book, resulting message is: “You cannot write on this item” -
but this syntax described in a Help window! And /write [slot-name] syntax works as expected.

I think it’s clear that /read command for a books must exist to make complete set. Some use cases:

* want to read any book - use /read [item-name] or /read [slot-name]
* want to write to a writable book - use /write [item-name] or /write [slot-name]
* want to equip / dequip any book - use /equip and /dequip commands

Sane default results for /use command:

* Crafting book - equip in a mind slot.

It's a reference book, to take a look from time to time in a crafting process, after all.

* Common book and writable book - open book reading window. Using a book in a real world means “read it”.

Other "uses" (as a blunt weapon, fuel, press-papier, etc.) are less common.

When you try to kill some kind of MOBs, usually humanoids, with the ability to heal themselves, they keep resurrecting.
You can easily see this in Camp Banished. When the foe reachs a health threshold it starts casting healing flash several times. It seems that there is a sort of queue filled with the spells, and the foe keeps resurrecting until you kill him in a moment he is not casting the healing spell.
This is the opposite of the previous behaviour where the opponent was just dying several times.

In the current state, if you have focus in the text box of the chat, none of your shortcut hotkeys work, even if they’re mapped to keys that do nothing in the chatbox, such as F1-12, Ctrl, Alt, Tab, Pause, etc.

I’m filing this as a bug report, because either this should be “fixed” so we can map shortcuts to such keys so they will still work while chatting, or the team can decide this is “not a bug” and close it.

The “fix” therefore, is to trap only those keys that chatbox can deal with, and forward anything else to the shortcut processor, so while typing in chat W A S D would be trapped in chat, and F3 would fire the shortcut it’s mapped to.

When you use a shape-shifting spell like Gorwealform (assuming the same holds for Polymorph) while mounted, the speed is not set correctly and you can reach no more than walking speed afterwards.