PlaneShift

During the last Dev Meeting, there was a good discussion about looting problems, especially after killing multiple opponents.
Aliasing with “/target next” does not solve the problem, because several players confirmed that this command tends to skip corpses.

Therefore Eredin asked for this ticket as a reminder to check the command.

System tab: Could the information there be split up further, like for the logs, into something like combat, crafting, soul commands (emotes and interaction commands like /greet), so you can have more control what is shown in Main tab?

This was briefly discussed in the Dev meeting (22/02/2015), and should be assigned to Eredin.

Thank you.

It’s very easy to miss tells, greetings and etc. For example if I talk with NPC, NPC tab in chat selected. Other char comes and tries to start dialog with me. As I read what NPC says, I miss blinking in the Main tab, so I ignore that char. As for RP, it seems that I’m very impolite because ignoring other chars. Adding popup for messages addressed to me solve this problem and I can immediately(if I want) reply to char.

My suggestion(technical background):

• on each command like <CMD> <TO_PERSON_NAME> generate event with message(tell, greet, etc.)
• this message shows in the main view like other notifications
• this popups can be toggled off in settings

Not sure if this was adressed but I have a pile of quest items, that after the whipe Of quests Im not sure what I need to keep for Quest trees, or what I can get rid of. Trying to clean out my inventory/Quest items.

I Haven’t really tried to find a spoiler site that lists quest items and what they are for, or even if one exists

Not sure if it is just me but I keep getting “You Must Face Enemy To Attack” when im clearly faceing them >

  There are A few Angles At which this happens (Most noticable on a Armored Riverling's right shoulder near the Lake Of Tears, Has also happened on the consumors near the Face Of Stone) 

“You Are To Far Away To Attack” > (standing right next to them, If I time it right I can jump and hit it’s head, but only can hit when jumping)

   I have noticed this On Ojaveda Road 1 Maulbernauts/Vilenaut/Maulberloards (When they spawn in the "vally area of there spawn points") I also notice when I kill them They get suspended Laying down in the air

I would like to see an Auto Guard system of some sort

I recently Made a mini game on PS and went to a GM event to have things Engraved but im running into A problem that if I somehow lose connection I would be subject to an OCC Robery of these items, And they are food Items So someone could pick them up, Eat them, And log off. While im still trying to log back in. weather it be from an enemy or A fake Alt.

Not only that but I placed a book on the buildboard to look for a guard to help me guard the display, a couple hours later it was gone. A player shouldn’t have to ask a GM everytime they want to place a book…. Ask Any GM and im sure they will agree with that!

ICly I could put a spell on something or report it to the guards, but these might have little effect other then a sure solution.

I will list some solutions, umm… Tell Me what you think? :)

1. Create A spell For Players To Lockdown there own Items/Command (time period Has no meaning Do to Bad weather that lasts hours)

2. Lol I donno… Number 1 sounds like the only solution Or all the others tye into it. I’ll Try to think of more and post them in comments

The next day I hear people in Gossip channel talking about someone taking a book so Its effecting All players

I have noticed a few things that are Incorrect, not sure If anyone commented on them, Or If they are In Progress. I will jot them down all in one Report so not to make several reports…

1. The “Cone” On the Energy Arrow Is faced in one direction As in the visual effect right after the energy arrow hits the target (Im sure im not the only one who see’s this wrong?)
2. When Dropping Stacks Of Items Like Pants There is an extra “ES” at the end. Alot Of Items Have The Extra “ES” at the end, that should not be there.

I Had A couple Questions and Requests :)
1. Someway to Turn off the red dropping notifications like.>”You are to far away to attack” and ““**” Has nothing to be looted”. maybe a way to just have it in the system tab.(Asked in help tab, unknown, If someone knows how please tell me lol, thanks!)
2. An NPC Or something In Game That could tell you detailed Information about weapons/quest items and things of that nature, (I have seen the Book in the musium, but I haven’t really studied it yet, and maybe incomplete?)

  It would be really cool if you could go to an npc and hand them what you found, have them give you 2 lines about the sword and what it does. Or even a book from a quest where you can i.d it, have it unidentified untill you take it to an npc and pay them a really small fee to i.d it. (Not complaining at all but I have kept all of my named items I have looted since I have started playing. they are awsome! :D But I want to organize :) please? :D I want to sell them but I dont want to sell something for 10,000 and find out that it was really special. haha with my Inventory im sure I could write the book!

If you want to comment on this aswell, up to you. I will be blunt to the point:
I have seen leather working Implimented But Famiel Is the one and only charature I will have. But He is Forbidden to work with Furs/Hides other then looting for sale. he wants to start making his own armor, so I ask/Hope there is a way to bypass leather armor and make Medium/Heavy Arms/Boots/Gloves when it gets implimented
Thank You For Your Time :)

Giving a Guild level the permission to edit gild points is not honoured. The flag is shown, but if someone of ther permitted group tries to edit the points of himself or another member he gets “you don’t have the permission…”

Additionally, editing permissions is not propageted to other online members. Ie. they do not see any changes in guild privileges.

My PC resolution is 4:3. When I talk to NPC, NPC dialogue is on the left of the screen and I cannot see whole NPC dialogue.

We’d like if the /dequip command would stack the same type and quality items in inventory when it’s used in shortcut.
It’s important for crafters, especially in case of hammering chain mail rings, but also would come handy for blacksmiths, blade or shield makers who want to separate Q300 items from other qualities which ones require more work.

In case of armor making crafters used to drop and pick up all the rings to stack the Q300 ones, since /pickup command do the stacking on same quality items. (This breaks immersion of role players, especially at Harnquist.)

The function also would prevent accidental manual grouping of non-Q300 items (blades, ingots etc.) with the carefully selected Q300 items in a slot.

CRAFTERS! Please vote and/or comment!

I think it would be nice to see the actual quality of the stored items too in the storage.

Now, you can see the amount, the price and the name of the item.
Sometimes with lot of similar items but with different qualities, it could help you to chose what you need.
At the moment, you need to click on each same named item stacks to see what you need.

I know it would reduce the maximum number of the storable items per category, but considering the long names of looted items, I think this 8 bytes wouldn’t make big difference.

I think it would be a great feature to make a new type of NPC quests on working title "Skill quests".
It would work similar to the current quests are being developed, so you can get repeatable quests from NPCs regarding to your current skill levels, like cooking/baking quests from Harnquist.

These skill quests would repeat daily (or in any other considered time periods) and crafters could pick orders up from their trainers or other NPCs.
NPC places an order on crafting a certain item that player need to craft and would get huge amount of SKILL PRACTICE as reward for fulfilling the order.

It wouldn't touch the current skill progression system, so someone could 'grind' a skill if they wish to do that.
But we all know, how slow it is now to progress in any crafting skill.

See an example:
The rule settings team think, someone has spent 3 months with developing their blades making skill, should be at level 100 in blades making without grinding.
If a player would play regulary and come back on 60 days, and does the skill quests from NPC, they would get enough skill practice to reach level 100.

Let's say the next level of the skill would take 2 hours of mindless grinding.
But if the player would come back regulary and would do the skill quest, they could reach the same level with making (let's say) 3 products for order.
The items to be crafted would also be different, regarding to the skill level of the player and what items are craftable in the skill.
So, a player would be asked to make a sabre, a falchion, an axe or a shortsword for example.

The advantage of the extended system would be:
- rule settings developers could define a minimum time within someone should reach a certain level in their skill
- the players wouldn't need to grind all playing time spent in PS to reach their skill levels, so they could role play more or work on other skills
- the players would come back more regulary to develop their favorite skills, because the quests would repeat daily

I think melee skill has too low damage compared to weapon skills.
It takes to level up the same efforts, costs and time as any other combat skill, and for that you get very low damage.

I measured MELEE on the Training Dummies, got the following:

Normal stance:
min: 46
max: 77
avr: 62.7

Bloody stance:
min: 53
max: 91
avr: 74.8

I used a Q50 ShortSWORD and got these results (and who does use a Q50 weapon nowadays at all?)

Normal stance:
min: 91
max: 153
avr: 126.4

Bloody stance:
min: 107
max: 180
avr: 145.3

And a Q50 Normal BOW:

Normal stance:
min: 99
max: 167
avr: 137.6

Bloody stance:
min: 116
max: 199
avr: 164.8

If I was using a Q300 Shortsword or Bow, these results would be higher by times 1.7x.
If I was using a Platinum Steel Longswords, the sword results would be higher by times 2.1x.

Conclusion:
Melee skill makes about only 50% damage compared to Q50 Sword and 45% damage to Q50 bow.
And please notice, that I compared the skill to Q50 items only.
In case of melee you have no chance to craft a better weapon, you have no chance to loot weapon with good modifier.

Suggestion:
I suggest to raise the damage of melee skill by at least 260%, because it takes to level melee up the same efforts, costs and time as any other combat skills. Otherwise melee is just a good RP skill :)
(Raising the damage by times 2.6x would be similar as you would use your hands as a Q300 Shortsword, taking the delay into account too (equalized damage per second values). Melee has 1.5 delay, Shortsword has 2.0 delay.)

Raising the damage by times 2.6x would cause:

Normal stance:
min: 119
max: 200
avr: 163.1

Bloody stance:
min: 137
max: 236
avr: 195.5

When a shortcut that uses an icon is moved the name of the shortcut disappears and is replaced with the shortcut number.

I am running ps on a OSX system running 10.9.2. The game crashes regularly however when I am playing it. It doesn’t always happen at the same time or in the same place. It seems that it always gives this error though.

Mar 20 09:40:49 macbook kernel[0]: process psclient_static[2932] thread 384705 caught burning CPU!; EXC_RESOURCE supressed due to audio playback
Mar 20 15:15:25 macbook kernel[0]: process psclient_static[3419] thread 457035 caught burning CPU!; EXC_RESOURCE supressed due to audio playback
Mar 20 16:25:02 macbook kernel[0]: process psclient_static[3538] thread 477372 caught burning CPU!; EXC_RESOURCE supressed due to audio playback
Mar 20 16:27:10 macbook com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[286] ([0×0-0x38f38f].psclient[3538]): Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault: 11

Any ideas on what is causing this? Thanks in advance.

I opened
planeshift/data/gui/scripthirednpcwindow.xml and got the mesage at my browser.
At Line 4 is savepositions=”yes” twice listed.

to replicate: find a container object somewhere (such as one of the wooden crates near Harnquist’s). Put an item in the crate, and try to unguard it. There doesn’t seem to be any way of doing this, or of unguarding an item before placing it.

GMs should have the ability to add, edit, delete notes on players.

command line commands :
/note ‘playername’ ‘comments’ /note list
/note delete id

GM console interface :
-when you click add you get ‘enter player name’, and then comments
-GM can then read them, edit them, or delete the whole thing
-permission level required to edit/delete configurable

we need a facility to allow morph, scaling, settrait and related commands to be in effect for the current login -OR- persist across logins -OR- permanently change the base character. Obviously there should be appropriate permissions requirements especially for changes to the base.

commands to save or load a character stored in an xml file. Should be able to specify short term, persistent or base level characteristics.

test case

test case

Courtesy of Rigwyn, on forum wishlist http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=42019.msg474950#msg474950

  The player would define a starting state, a series of "qualifiers" controlling a custom menu of "actions" that may be taken on the object.
  Qualifiers could check attributes, skills, possession of an item, or internal counters.
  Each action could execute one or more commands, for example /shout, /say, or /tell to the person who acted on it, or update its description or internal counters.
  All descriptions and internal counters would be shared to all clients within range as well as persist.

Now we have space for 200 shortcuts/Macros it would be useful if one could group sets of shortcuts into their own subwindow so one could have a window for combat shortcuts, a window for crafting, a window for RP shortcuts etc.

It could be fixed 4×20 8×10 or user selectable

I have been playing around with the llvm/clang static source code analyzer (http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html) for a while, and thought it might be fun to run it on the planeshift source code (svn r8433). Even though especially the c++ analyzer is still viewed as beta quality at this time, the results are interesting and can be found here :

http://lbalbalba.x90x.net/clang-analyzer/planeshift/

I was trying to do the Jolik’s Letter quest. My inventory was full when he handed me the letter, and I dropped. By the time I dropped something from my inventory, the letter was gone. Now I am stuck on this quest.

May be related to  bug 3712 .

I've noticed that the sound effects for things like fountains and fires seem to be based on where the camera is located, not where the player is.

To demonstrate, go to 3rd person follow mode and move the camera well back from the character. Position the character near a sound generating item (fireplace in front of temple works). You won't hear it. Move away from the object so that the camera is next to it and you will hear it.

Sometimes when I’m attacking NPCs with a spell, I’ll see the following messages:

“I failed to move, will teleport in 5 sec.” “I was teleported here, waiting 5 sec.” “now I located the spawn point.”

I’ve had this happen with rogues in Ojaveda and in the Sewers where there don’t appear to be any obstacles to their movement.

It’s really annoying to have to go track down the NPC to finish it off.

When I am moving items out of my inventory and get the window to confirm the number of items to move, if the confirmation window is over another window, clicking the OK button closes the amount window (correctly) but pulls the lower window to the top.

Steps to reproduce: Position the Inventory window such that the left overlaps the middle of another window (e.g. a container). Pick a stack of items from the left inventory window with a left-button click. The Amount window should appear with the "OK" button over the lower window. Click "OK." The items will be picked up but the other window will now be on top of the inventory window.

The click action does not trigger an action in the lower window. If the shortcut window is the lower window, the shortcut under the OK will not be triggered, but the shortcut window will be pulled to the top. This may be related to PS#6251.

The map that shows up when you take a pterosaur flight shows a river identified as the Irifon River between Gugrontid and the Bronze Doors. However, there’s no river there and the Irifon is actually located between Hydlaa and Ojaveda.

Currently when leaving PlaneShift, the only option is to completely exit the client. It would be convenient to be able to go back to the character selection screen and/or the login screen rather than having to restart the client.

When I try to select a grill in Brado’s tavern the pink rotating cross does not appear.
Right click works and brings up the action icons. However, putting meat in one of the slots and “use” the grill to grill the meat results in “You interrupted your work when you moved away” every time. Other items like preparation tables, pots, etc. work fine.

I’m running PS on:
Arch linux ( up to date system ) 86×64 intel core i5
mobility radeon HD5xxx series with up to date catalyst drivers.

I logged my console output but I can’t see anything relevant to the problem, could be me so here’s the link:
pastie

Some of the musical notes, when using the Lute and Lira (drum seems okay), have an annoying white noise in the background. The audio is not clean, and this can be bothersome particularly to people with high-end headphones who may be able to hear it better. I am not sure if this is audible to all players, but it certainly should be to anyone with a good pair of headphones.

Some popping sounds can also be heard.

I am not too knowledgeable on music, so I can’t say which notes specifically have unclean sound, but I think since it can be heard plainly it should be easy to find out.

Sometimes when talking to an NPC during a quest, it’s not obvious that saying something will end it early. For example, in the Dizzy Bevon quest, telling Charisa that you can’t get into the Winch abruptly ends it. Meaning you will never see the rest of that quest, even if you get Winch access. I thought that she would wait instead, which would be more fair to players. Apparently this game wasn’t as forgiving as I imagined. Failing quests is especially annoying when it involves typed answers too, where a typo or not being specific enough will cost you the quest. (Even if you knew the right answer.)

First of all, I feel there shouldn’t be an option to finish a quest early unless you fail, the options being either you complete it fully or save it for later. This would be much more player-friendly. I didn’t even fail the quest, I just couldn’t get into the Winch. I feel like I was punished for being honest, and possibly have missed out on some reputation forever.

Who in the right mind would back out of a quest after accepting it, anyway? I doubt anyone does it intentionally. These sorts of choices should be greatly reduced. It only makes sense during evil quests where you might feel bad about what you’re doing. If someone is feeling lazy or is busy, then they can complete the quest later, like in any other game. If these dialog options are going to remain in the game, then it may be better if they had a warning such as (ENDS QUEST), while the true ending of the quest could say (COMPLETES QUEST). This would help players avoid making infuriating mistakes like mine.

Secondly, sometimes it is too easy to fail a quest when typed answers are involved. In the Stolen Dagger (sp?) quest from Ojaveda where you have to tell Enach what it looked like, if you say “diamond”, or “diamonds”, instead of “diamonds and opals”, you will get the uneventful ending. This is made even more ridiculous because the answer is in your quest log, so it shouldn’t be possible to get it incorrect anyway. But you only get one chance. Basically, I feel quests that rely on typed text should be more forgiving, because sometimes it’s not about whether you’re right or wrong. Rather, it may depend on how many variations of the correct answer there are, so a lot of the time it isn’t the player’s fault. Sure, maybe “diamond” isn’t that specific, but it definitely narrows it down. If I say diamond, Enack should say something like “Anything else?”.

When you are playing a song on an instrument, if you close out of the sheet rather than clicking the stop button, the music will continue to play. This seems to continue until you relog, and opening and using the sheet again doesn’t fix it, it will only make you play two songs at once.

I am not sure if other players hear this or just the player.

In my opinion, X’ing out of the music sheet should work just like the stop button.

When there is foggy weather in the game, some 2D textures will have white boxes around them. The most well-known instance where this happens is with the target effect under an NPC’s feet. I think this also affects 2D grass textures like at the magic shop forest. Basically, the fog makes transparency in certain textures visible by making them white.

The “Wild Pterosaur” model still has a saddle on it’s back, making it seem not so wild.

Several times now a sheet of music I have been editing would, after I closed it and reopened it, display only the first line, even when I went back to edit mode, had already saved it, loaded it to a second sheet, and restarted the game.
Needless to say, this is making it impossible to finish writing the piece of music!

Since you can set the sharps and flats for the overall piece of music, you should be able to insert naturals. Otherwise, if you need to cancel one of the sharps/flats for the key you are using anywhere in the music, your only alternative is to write in all the sharps and flats throughout by hand.

It would be helpful if measures were numbered.
It would be extremely helpful for writing music to be able to just play the last measures added. It would be useful for RP purposes, too, since that is how one often practices a piece… working on one section at a time, or you might want to share part of something you had written.

I was working on a batch of Liquid Bread Rise and kept getting “You are not sure what to do with this.” I realize this will probably be nearly impossible to reproduce so I’ll try to explain as best I can exactly what I was doing.

I had started by combining the ingredients (1 Foaming Water, 2 Pinches of Salt, 14 Scoops of Lard) on the preparation table, yielding Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough. Then decided to combine them in the wooden bowl so I could go straight to the mixing step. I had already combined 3 when I switched. I added the ingredients to the wooden bowl and combined, letting it automatically do the mixing step, and this worked fine. The I tried to mix the Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough I had previously combined on the table and that is when I got the “You are not sure what to do with this” message. As long as I combined the items in the wooden bowl and then mixed them I had no trouble. If I tried to put in previously combined Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough it gave me the error message. Several times I reflexively hit the Take All and Stack before it was mixed, and when I tried to put it back in the bowl and mix it I got the error message.
Eventually I had to stop and measure out more scoops of lard, which required switching my wooden spoon for the scoop, since I was also holding a Dagger of Seduction (and wearing a Merc Helm of Seduction, if that matters). After I switched back, I was able to mix the Unmixed Liquid Bread Dough without any trouble… for awhile. (I didn’t realize right away that was what made it work)
Eventually though the problem popped up again (when I prematurely grabbed the mix before it was done, and tried to put it back and finish mixing it, it said “You are not sure what to do with this”) Again, the problem resolved when I switched to measuring lard and back. This happened three times in all. I didn’t put together that it was when I switched tasks that it started working until the third time it happened, so I didn’t have a chance to try just switching tools to see if that was what was fixing it.

I Was going to make some apple jam biscuits recently as requested by Harnquist but I could not for the life of me find them in any of my cookbooks (I have all four!). Since Harnquist asked for it, I was pretty sure I could make it and took a guess that it should be in the Pastry Chef book that has the jam recipe and open biscuits. With that book in Mind, I was able to make the Apple Jam Biscuits, but I never did actually FIND the recipe. I checked with another cook just to make sure, and she couldn’t find it either. She also pointed out that the Bread with Apple Jam is also missing (the other Bread with Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam and Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam Biscuits, as well as the Bread with Butter and Buttered Biscuits are also missing.)

In the Making Enchanted Armor book I discovered that the skills you cannot do are not grayed out (AFTER I tried something, was told I didn’t have the skill, and looked more closely at my book! It does say the usual “WIth higher skill you could blah, blah, blah” but it’s the same color as the rest of the text).

When you are editing a book and you hit OK to indicate you are finished it closes the book altogether, so you have to reopen the book to see the changes. Since formatting can take quite a bit of trial and error, it quickly becomes annoying to constantly have to reopen the book. With music and maps, when you finish editing you simply click the Edit icon again and it exits Edit mode, leaving the music/map open. It would be nice if books worked the same way.

You can easily shoot with a bow ingame to ranges far beyond the range of combat messages. Mob aggro (and sometimes the archery anim) do not work at such long ranges, either.

GMail uses the + to denote email aliases: foo+bar@gmail.com delivers to the same GMail inbox as foo@gmail.com. The PS validation system rejects the + character client side, although it is permitted by the RFCs (see RFC5322 s3.2.3/3.4.1). The easy fix is to be much more liberal on the client about what is allowed in an email address, since we’ll be emailing a validation code to it anyway.

Currently, all crafting requires a full setup of equipment (fixed-in-the-world crafting containers) for that craft. This makes sense for some crafting skills such as blacksmithing and to an extent alchemy; however, basic cooking and herbalism (and other crafts TBD) should be possible with only portable crafting containers (such as a campfire and pan or a simple, portable mortar and pestle). This would also require new crafting books: “Campfire Recipes” anyone?

/pos: bdoorsin -180.54 19.71 -864.52

How to reproduce: Run into the area between the large boulder and the cliff face there.

What should happen: Your char should, at worst, have to /unstick out of it, or be respawned due to the map leak.

What does happen:

1. Your char (sometimes) gets ‘leaked’ off the map and starts to fall through it
2. As your char falls, they get put back in the normal map area because of the concavity of the cliff face below the path there.
3. Result: a DR trip, because your character goes “splat” at the bottom of the Bronze Doors canyon.

The screenshots pretty much tell the whole story.

1) Have char A (Primatus for me) enter the GH and sit on some furniture.
2) Have char B (Sabor) log into the GH.

A on A’s client is atop the furniture, while on B’s client A is in the furniture. Probably a symptom of the known issues with object spawning in PS, but still….really guys?

Considering that arrows are single-use at this time and craftable, it should be feasible to use envenomed arrows to test the concept of envenomable weaponry for the time being, until we can get the engine changes needed for temporarily-poisoned blades in. (Flaming arrows would be a nice addition while you are at it…)

Having to use the Working with Stock book simply to heat steel/ingots for forging makes for a silly amount of swapping back and forth between Working with Stock and Book of Blades. It’d be simple enough to add the steps for heating stock and ingots to the Book of Blades…