PlaneShift

Since the update to 5.9, the textures and shaders when in town seem to be either missing or messed up. The lighting in some areas makes Chars and NPCs look like they’re wearing TV static. I’ve checked the drivers for my graphics card (ATI Radeon 3100 in a Toshiba Satellite Laptop), and they are up to date. Please see the attached screenshots, and if any more info is required, I will be happy to provide.

Thank you for your time and attention. ~Timil~

I’m a new user and I just had a very frustrating experience, so I want to propose an improvement.

I requested a guild mate to craft me some chain armor, and when I got it done I picked the Arm piece i was wearing and tried to exchange by the new one. By the gods, the quality-50 armor merged with the quality-300 one and I got two quality-175 armors. Without any confirmation.

I think the merge-on-stack system is fine for many crafting situations, but merging armor stats is a unexpected one. I fail to see why one would want to merge a higher armor with a much lower one. This doesn’t even make sense: if you mix water and herbs it’s ok that you get an infusion, but you can’t mix a chain mail with another one to instantly get two different ones.

I requested a GM to revert the stats and he said that this is the same situation as when one sells or gives away an item by mistake. I think it is not the same thing. This is not a mistake; it is common to exchange items in the inventory to organize or save space, and having these “side-effects” in place can make a simple inventory management a surprisingly bad experience for new users like me. :(

TL;DR:

1. Please review if it really makes sense to merge armors or weapons. I don’t see the use for it, and it sounds illogical, but probably I’m missing something.

2. Please consider adding a confirmation to actions with clearly bad side effects during inventory management, to avoid the frustration, specially for new users.

3. Please consider adding a toggle/checkbox to the inventory to turn on/off automatic item merging (disabled by default to avoid sad surprises like mine).

Thanks for all the hard work, guys. :)

Any way to get MyPlane running on HTTPS? I am thinking before someone has a problem. Not positive on the category on this one, thanks.

The random weapons naming system is one of the excellent features of PlaneShift, and crystals have always been iconic to PlaneShift. Different varieties of mineral crystals produced at the mine sites. Some descriptors that would indicate quality on the crystals, like: Smoky, cloudy, occulted, clear, milky, flecked, fractured, et cetera. Smoky sapphire, occulted Ruby, et cetera. These could indicate grades of quality. Perhaps there should be a chance to pull extremely unique crystals of magical quality with two or more modifiers. I would not be surprised if this was already thought of, but I wanted to put it up here while it was in my mind.

1) Abacus quest item in “Kilas wants his Abacus Back” looks like some sort of globus…

2) It is not clear from Crosh’s explanations, that numeric base he uses with 7-th beads abacus. It can be both 7 or 8, so right answer may be 64 (base 8) or 49 (if base 7 is used). If base 7 is used, the whole beads line is moved back (left) in same operation with moving its last 7-th bead to the right. Same alhorithm is used in real Russian abacus, which have 10 beads in a line for 10-th base calculations.

Maybe, 2) is not a bug, but it requires some more “out of game” explorations, than player may expect, or just “brute force” enumeration of possible aanswers. So, Crosh’s explanations about his calculations must be more clear:

Now: “When they’re all to the right, I move them all back and move bead in a second line…“
Must be like: “When they’re all to the right, and I need to count one more day, I move them all back and move bead in a second line…“

This can be fixed with brightness increse / decrease, but still wierd.

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I think, slots in all windows should not have quantity labels displayed then there is only one item.
It concerns inventory window (including equipment slots), a hotbar, container, exchange (could be), etc.

Most quests start with an intro and a confirmation for the player to accept the quest. For those that have skill requirements and/or time locks, instead of hiding the quest completely, perhaps it would be better to expose such quests when the character is otherwise qualified (e.g completed other quests in the chain) and do the skill / time check in the intro steps and have the NPC inform the character that they need to practice more before they can continue, or say something along the lines of "too busy right now, come back tomorrow". This way the player will know the quest is there, and get a hint of what they need to do. Going around and touching all the NPC's and finding nothing just feels like a bug when one knows there should be quests out there someplace.

So the subject: book titles for crafting techniques are missing in 0.5.9.10 using “elves” skin (and other skins too):

But writable and setting books are ok:

Not all shortcuts from shortcuts window are in "Options→Controls→Shortcuts"
If you set/change a key in shortcuts window the key does not get set/changed in options window until you relog.

The following is not really a bug but more feature request
If you set a key you can set
LShift - RShift
LCtrl - RCtrl
LAlt - RAlt

But if you make key combos it will just turn to
Shift+key
Ctrl+key
Alt+key

Would it be possible to set
LShift+key
LCtrl+key
LAlt+key
RShift+key
RCtrl+key
RAlt+key

That will open up allot more possible key combinations.

It would be helpful if measures were numbered.
It would be extremely helpful for writing music to be able to just play the last measures added. It would be useful for RP purposes, too, since that is how one often practices a piece… working on one section at a time, or you might want to share part of something you had written.

when i try to register for the forum the last question is broken: what is the name of the underground version of the stalactite?
the answer should be stalagmite. (so far i tried several typos on both stalagmite and stalactite).

I Was going to make some apple jam biscuits recently as requested by Harnquist but I could not for the life of me find them in any of my cookbooks (I have all four!). Since Harnquist asked for it, I was pretty sure I could make it and took a guess that it should be in the Pastry Chef book that has the jam recipe and open biscuits. With that book in Mind, I was able to make the Apple Jam Biscuits, but I never did actually FIND the recipe. I checked with another cook just to make sure, and she couldn’t find it either. She also pointed out that the Bread with Apple Jam is also missing (the other Bread with Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam and Duppong/Teveran/Macca/Joopiner Jam Biscuits, as well as the Bread with Butter and Buttered Biscuits are also missing.)

In the Making Enchanted Armor book I discovered that the skills you cannot do are not grayed out (AFTER I tried something, was told I didn’t have the skill, and looked more closely at my book! It does say the usual “WIth higher skill you could blah, blah, blah” but it’s the same color as the rest of the text).

GET RID OF KEYS and replace it with a keypad code when door is clicked.

Player who has been given keypad privileges after being accepted to guild now can simply CLICK DOOR and enter a password.

IF password is correct, THEN the player magically gets teleported inside.

IF Guild Leader feels any guild member is exploiting their access powers and making a mess inside (like stealing), THEN access is revoked in the GUILD MEMBER screen by right clicking player name and option called REVOKE KEYPAD USE. Only Guild Leader and PERMISSIONS for specific Member Levels can change this back and forth.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

For crafting book /use command equips book in mind slot - and it’s OK, I think.
But how to open crafting book for reading, as of RMB click in inventory?

Then dragging a book from inventory to shortcut window, /use command is created.
But /use command for common book just results in a book, equiped in righthand slot (in case it’s empty).
Book isn’t opened for reading nor writing, so where is no result of using it. So no /use…

After equipping a common book in a hand slot, /use [slot-name] command just kills the psclient… This one really unexpected :(

/write [item-name] command syntax not working on a writable book, resulting message is: “You cannot write on this item” -
but this syntax described in a Help window! And /write [slot-name] syntax works as expected.

I think it’s clear that /read command for a books must exist to make complete set. Some use cases:

* want to read any book - use /read [item-name] or /read [slot-name]
* want to write to a writable book - use /write [item-name] or /write [slot-name]
* want to equip / dequip any book - use /equip and /dequip commands

Sane default results for /use command:

* Crafting book - equip in a mind slot.

It's a reference book, to take a look from time to time in a crafting process, after all.

* Common book and writable book - open book reading window. Using a book in a real world means “read it”.

Other "uses" (as a blunt weapon, fuel, press-papier, etc.) are less common.

I hope it is technically possible to programmatically request a further execution of the launcher as administrator to be able to exchange binaries in UAC protected directories (%ProgramFiles% or %ProgramFiles(x86)% under Windows Vista/7/8…); and may it just be by the launcher calling itself as a new instance executed under the Administrator account.

Other platforms than Windows may require a similar solution.

When you try to kill some kind of MOBs, usually humanoids, with the ability to heal themselves, they keep resurrecting.
You can easily see this in Camp Banished. When the foe reachs a health threshold it starts casting healing flash several times. It seems that there is a sort of queue filled with the spells, and the foe keeps resurrecting until you kill him in a moment he is not casting the healing spell.
This is the opposite of the previous behaviour where the opponent was just dying several times.

In the current state, if you have focus in the text box of the chat, none of your shortcut hotkeys work, even if they’re mapped to keys that do nothing in the chatbox, such as F1-12, Ctrl, Alt, Tab, Pause, etc.

I’m filing this as a bug report, because either this should be “fixed” so we can map shortcuts to such keys so they will still work while chatting, or the team can decide this is “not a bug” and close it.

The “fix” therefore, is to trap only those keys that chatbox can deal with, and forward anything else to the shortcut processor, so while typing in chat W A S D would be trapped in chat, and F3 would fire the shortcut it’s mapped to.

A UI improvement: This would make things much more convenient for spells like Dweomer Detection, but generally in cases where an action is performed on an object such as repairing weapons and armor. It would be great if the object of the action was (first choice) an external object that you have in focus. If there is no such object, use the one in the sword hand.

Right now, there is a mix of both of these things implemented. This would make it consistent and convenient. Right now it's quite awkward to have to drop an item, and then focus on it before casting a spell on it.

When you use a shape-shifting spell like Gorwealform (assuming the same holds for Polymorph) while mounted, the speed is not set correctly and you can reach no more than walking speed afterwards.

The map that shows up when you take a pterosaur flight shows a river identified as the Irifon River between Gugrontid and the Bronze Doors. However, there’s no river there and the Irifon is actually located between Hydlaa and Ojaveda.

After updating itself, and then updating the PS client and data (Win64) to version 0.6.1, the launcher tried a third time, displayed “Using mirror … for updaterinfo.xml | updateservers.xml” — and then, nothing. The button “OK” never appeared.

The button “Cancel” was available. But how shall I know if I interrupt something important if I click it?

With a weight of 9 and a size of 9, the model of “White Oak Wood” appears to be way too large. Such a big heap of wood would weight more than 50 kg. In contrast, the icon is such a tiny poking stick…

Often then I'm trying to speak with NPC using "new" NPC dialog, on activate it shows NPC's reply bubble with a common public phrase (instead of [private] quest choices).

Think that NPC speech bubble should be displayed only for NPC's replies on quest choices / answers. Rule is simple: no quest choices made in dialog session = no need to show NPC reply bubble. All other NPC talk should be directed to the chat.

When you equip an item with “BOTH HANDS” flag an icon appears in only the left or right hand inventory slot, whichever you dropped it in.

As the weapon takes up both ‘LEFT’ and ‘RIGHT’ hands it would be clearer if the same icon appeared in both hands to make it clear that both hands are taken up by one item.

It should also be possible to deequip it from the icon in either hand.

At the moment two handed items appear in a single hand and use the animations for single hand weapons. There needs to be a new set of equip and attack animations for each race for two hand weapons.

I would like to see npc’s function as locators for quest characters so that players can “ask around town” if they cannot locate the desired npc.

until now due to the gm’s policy about spoilers and the fact that most NPC’s are pretty much brain dead except for a few very basic responses it is sometimes next to impossible to locate a specific NPC without relying on another player or a wiki website as the information is not available ingame.

essentially I want NPC’s to respond to commands such as “do you know where I can find ‘name’” they should be able to check a database of nearby NPS’s and if they are in range they can point you in the direction or if not in range point you towards an NPC that does.

sample response. “yes i have heard of this ‘name’ you can find him over by “description of location pulled from database”.

sample responce out of range.

“I have not heard that name before perhaps you should try asking ‘NPC near desired character’ in ‘city near desired NPC’

but essentially make NPC’s able to give directions or information about other NPC’s or directions to nearby areas

right now it is nearly impossible to get any information about quests without relying on other players. Npc’s should respond to questions of this nature.

I would like to request that saved quest notes be moved from client side into the book database. currently the quest notes are saved locally and are very vulnerable frequently getting deleted during client repair or re installs. additionally for players who have more than one computer these notes do not properly persist between clients.

considering that players are already allowed to write books and that text data takes up very little space there is really no reason NOT to move this feature server side.

another major issue with the current implementation is that the quest’s description is missing a lot of key information provided by the npc conversation such as names and locations.

a perfect example is the quest Masked Mistress where the description tells you the summary however does not include her brothers name which is given in the npc dialogue.

the lost of quest notes can easily render a quest impossible to complete without asking a person for spoilers or searching through game logs for the missing conversation.

The game possesses many unused book icons that are actually quite interesting but not accessible in any way outside of the shortcut window.

I would like to see a icon selector integrated into the book writing window that allows you to select any book icon for the item’s appearance similar to the way you can assign these icons to a shortcut hot button.

additionally with this implementation there is no longer a need for Jayose to stock a different books for different colors as well as allowing player written books to be more easily distinguished from each other

it would add a fun little cosmetic aspect to role play allowing your ancient tome to look like an ancient tome rather than a hot off the press notebook

Some of the musical notes, when using the Lute and Lira (drum seems okay), have an annoying white noise in the background. The audio is not clean, and this can be bothersome particularly to people with high-end headphones who may be able to hear it better. I am not sure if this is audible to all players, but it certainly should be to anyone with a good pair of headphones.

Some popping sounds can also be heard.

I am not too knowledgeable on music, so I can’t say which notes specifically have unclean sound, but I think since it can be heard plainly it should be easy to find out.

When you are playing a song on an instrument, if you close out of the sheet rather than clicking the stop button, the music will continue to play. This seems to continue until you relog, and opening and using the sheet again doesn’t fix it, it will only make you play two songs at once.

I am not sure if other players hear this or just the player.

In my opinion, X’ing out of the music sheet should work just like the stop button.

Would it be possible to change how the code handles missing parts of gui in xml, so it shows an error rather than crashing. example being with page numbers and using an old xml which did not contain them, client currently crashes as soon as you view a book. it would be nice to at least get a message pointing at cause

When there is foggy weather in the game, some 2D textures will have white boxes around them. The most well-known instance where this happens is with the target effect under an NPC’s feet. I think this also affects 2D grass textures like at the magic shop forest. Basically, the fog makes transparency in certain textures visible by making them white.

I think it would be more realistic and quite useful for looted items to have a random current quality. Finding enough damaged equipment to practice repair is always tough, this idea would go a long way to making it a more usable skill.

This idea, if properly implemented, could also balance out the values of looted items. A sub-routine could be devised to cause the highest value items suffer the greatest pre-loot damage. So a standard unmodified item could have a flat chance of being anywhere from 1 to 50 out of 50 quality. A one modifier item could roll 2 50-sided dice taking the lower result or average, and so on for 2 modifier and three modifier items. Specific implementation could be subject to testing to determine appropriate rates.

This would result in less of a lottery effect.

When working on bow making at the Arena smith table: if you /use the table, when the progress bar shows that you are done, instead of being done with whatever you’re doing, you get a message that reads “You interrupted your work when you moved away” without having moved at all.

I’ve repeated it multiple times working on a few different things, but haven’t tried at any other smith tables yet.

I would like to have a specific means of muting certain people’s “music”. It’s a shame if you have to turn off all musical instruments to be rid of the “Listen to me practise my same song for any amount of hours if you want to craft here” people.

So it would be very nice if /ignore commands would also affect audio output triggered by the ignored person. Not sure how feasible that is technically, though.

The ability to sort in the storage window is awesome. However, it would also be nice to be able to search your storage for a specific item within a category. I think this would mostly be useful in weapons categories, but I can see it being useful for other categories as well. For example, if I’m looking in category: weapons - axes and I want to find all of my blah blah blah of the hammer axes, it would be nice to be able to filter by “of the hammer”. Sorting is great, but if you’re looking for an item with a specific modifier, and it’s not a prefix, it’s hard to find.

I crafted two bows, the NPC-Price for the Enkidukai Shortbow (needs lvl 20 in bow making and more material) seems to low.
Enkidukai Hunting Bow, Q170; 1588 Tria
Enkidukai Shortbow, Q193; 1531 Tria

System tab: Could the information there be split up further, like for the logs, into something like combat, crafting, soul commands (emotes and interaction commands like /greet), so you can have more control what is shown in Main tab?

This was briefly discussed in the Dev meeting (22/02/2015), and should be assigned to Eredin.

Thank you.

From game chat:

/tell Laanx Hi, Laanx!
> Laanx is not found online.

Current /pray command is a shortcut for /emote pray, but it could be interesting to have separate command to pray gods (or specific god) for miracles or even ask them about something.

“Miracles” should be protective / healing spells, casted on character or group, or offensive spells, casted on enemies.
Spell set could vary by god. Rate of success of appeal & spell power could be determined by character race, faction points, number of previous appeals (in the game day), sacrifices and also (maybe) current location, weather and time of the day.

If god name not specified, any god in the mood could answer to the prayer.
Also, appeling to the more ancient gods (Laanx, Talad) should have lesser rate of success, but greater miracles or revelations.

Any character (even have no magical abilities and choose to be atheist) could use this command.

Gods could be implemented as (invisible) NPCs.

Example command formats:

Pray: /pray [godname]
Ask: /tell [godname] [question]
Sacrifice: /give [godname] [itemname]

Forum thread: http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=42207.msg477124#msg477124

While the quest system has greatly improved in the years I’ve been gone, there are still things one needs to type to an NPC.

Currently NPCs are still dumb as bricks when it comes to understand what players “write” to them.

As the “writing” is supposed to be “speaking” one would assume that an a person would understand a word even if it’s spelled incorrectly.

For example - in a certain quest you have to tell a certain NPC the words “diamond and opal”.

If you spell the words wrong (e.g. opale) the npc refuses to help and you have no chance of repeating that step and thus are forced to finish the quest in another way.

With regexp in the engine the settings department could make the answer look like this: (?i).*diamond.*opal.*

This would match case insensitive on “it are diamonds and opals” as well as “diamondsopals” or “diamond opale” as well as many other possible phrases that include the words “diamond” and “opal”.

With wordlists settings could define a couple of spellings of certain words to match on in-word typos even. for example: (?i).*$quest_stepX_wordlist1.*$quest_stepX_wordlist2.*
In the wordlist the settings dept could then, for example, define spellings like diamond, daimond, diamant and the like. That’s just an example though, I’m sure there are many more examples in game currently where a npc refuses to answer or you break a step in a quest only because you cnat type

As for the regexp, the PCRE library from Apache could be used, maybe. http://www.pcre.org/

The Mace Making Practice Points seem to be inconsistent with other crafting. With a skill level of less than 20, everything only takes 5 seconds to make regardless of the complexity of the item being crafted.
Wondering if a higher blacksmith skill is weighted more. Only getting 5 pp per item crafted will extend leveling ability time dramatically.

In Legacy PlaneShift, the default movements are:
W = Walk forwards
S = Walk backwards
A = Turn to the left until keypress ends
D = Turn to the right until keypress ends

However in PSU, the movement is as follows:

W = Walk forwards
S = Turn 180 degrees and then walk forwards (towards the camera)
A = Turn 90 degrees left and then walk forwards (at 270 degrees from camera)
D = Turn 90 degrees right and then walk forwards (at 90 degrees from camera)

This is incongruent with legacy movements, but also complicated by the requirement to use the mouse for both UI interaction and movement concurrently.

It may be that this is a result of the absence of a ‘third-person follow’ camera, but behaviour should follow that of legacy.

In the interface tab of the options/settings menu, some options don’t seem to save at relog.

Items affected:
- menu bar size
- visible shortcut rows
- chat tabs
- time stamps
- max history

The quest has a number of triggers that must be completed in order to progress that do not appear to be working in Unreal. The three I’ve found are:

1) Proximity to the rock with the action location that moves players into the cave,

2) Use of a cog/mechanism, moving one of the rocks, and

3) Solving the door puzzle and entering the small room.

I’m not sure if these are supposed to complete steps that are not sequential with the immediately previous steps, or if they are meant to set variables, but either way they don’t seem to be doing the job. Talking to Raithen gives no sign that you’ve completed any of these tasks, even if you’ve done them all.

I can get players past this by setting a later step manually, but given the (suspected) use of variables or non-sequential steps, it seems likely I’ll just mess things up for them.

After a server crash, if you don’t restart your game, your log will no longer be updated with what happens in game. This has been noticed by Gonger, Migg, and a few others.

when completing a quest with a “choose your reward” section at the end, if you don’t select a reward before clicking “Select a reward” it doesn’t stop you before continuing or give you a default reward, it just completes without giving you any of the possible rewards.

When a friend completed the “Levrus Rat Eyes” quest, she forgot to select a reward before clicking “Select a reward” and received none of the options given.

split "emotions" or "fighting messages" from "system base" so that one can have "fighting" in "System-Tab" but "emotes" in "Main-Tab".

Right now you can chose which "Messages" go to "Main Tab" and which not (System Tab).
But both "Emotes" and "Fighting Messages" are part of "System Base", thus you can either have both, or none of them in Main. And being spammed with "Fighting Messages" during RP is quite annoying. Indeed, you could filter them out - but that's not the same since you won't get those messages at all then.

How about making it visible in Main if Players exchange items?
A system message appears to the ones trading anyways at this moment.
the message to others should however have some less precision, like:

 "<PlayerA> gave <PlayerB> Weapons and some coinage in exchange for raw materials"
 for someone trading a crafted longsword, a dagger, 2 hexa and a tria against 45 platinum ore and a silver ingot.

this in order to keep realism (can all see how many circles and tria he pushed into the other persons hand?)
the message could use the item_category, and eliminate doubles, so it could be done without giant changes to the database.

the advantages I would see in this:

 1.) there will be visible interaction between players. no more pure tell-based sales that (imho) are pretty ooc.
     Noone IRL (and especially not in the middle ages) would go into a shop and whisper in the cashiers ear what he whishes to sell or buy.
     Instead people going into a shop (not a supermarket) usually say good day followed by a statement on what they seek to buy (maybe even some smalltalk).
     Neither would such item exchange go unnoticed by other people in the shop or near the exchange.
     So I think it would add to realism. Unless the character you play would be blind.
 2.) Stealthy and sneaky exchanges of goods would have to take place in dark alleys, like sneaky things should be done.
 3.) Hopefully the messages in main would encurage Players to take the general and casual trade-talk into main as well,
     instead of hiding it in tells in order to not 'disturb' other players. 
     If IRL there are others talking near you, you step away a little to give and have more privacy as well.
 4.) It also would surely add some spying capabilities into the game, as it then could indeed be seen to all around who trades with who.
     This will make it possible to IC-ly spy on others trade behaviours. This without the need of having to be telling or grouping with the ones spied on. 

disadvantages:

 1.) Anyone could see who would trade with who, people who use quest runners would have to find a reason why they would get items for free.. 
     (or take the trade to a dark alley).
 2.) Someone could 'spam' the main-channel with trade messages. (but that's easier by sitting and standing up, or by dropping items and pick them up)
 3.) some things I probably didn't thik about yet. feel free to add..

Overall I think it would rather add to RP then desturb it.
For slipping items to others unnoticed, there could/should be a ‘/givesecret’ option that would use the numbers behind the pickpocket/sneaking skills.

I would like to have a Knock button added to guild house door context menu that would allow people to signal anyone inside that they have a visitor. THe knock command will send a “someone is knocking at the door” message to everyone inside. This could be used regardless of whether the door is locked.

It would certainly enhance role play regarding the guild houses.