PlaneShift

How about making it visible in Main if Players exchange items?
A system message appears to the ones trading anyways at this moment.
the message to others should however have some less precision, like:

 "<PlayerA> gave <PlayerB> Weapons and some coinage in exchange for raw materials"
 for someone trading a crafted longsword, a dagger, 2 hexa and a tria against 45 platinum ore and a silver ingot.

this in order to keep realism (can all see how many circles and tria he pushed into the other persons hand?)
the message could use the item_category, and eliminate doubles, so it could be done without giant changes to the database.

the advantages I would see in this:

 1.) there will be visible interaction between players. no more pure tell-based sales that (imho) are pretty ooc.
     Noone IRL (and especially not in the middle ages) would go into a shop and whisper in the cashiers ear what he whishes to sell or buy.
     Instead people going into a shop (not a supermarket) usually say good day followed by a statement on what they seek to buy (maybe even some smalltalk).
     Neither would such item exchange go unnoticed by other people in the shop or near the exchange.
     So I think it would add to realism. Unless the character you play would be blind.
 2.) Stealthy and sneaky exchanges of goods would have to take place in dark alleys, like sneaky things should be done.
 3.) Hopefully the messages in main would encurage Players to take the general and casual trade-talk into main as well,
     instead of hiding it in tells in order to not 'disturb' other players. 
     If IRL there are others talking near you, you step away a little to give and have more privacy as well.
 4.) It also would surely add some spying capabilities into the game, as it then could indeed be seen to all around who trades with who.
     This will make it possible to IC-ly spy on others trade behaviours. This without the need of having to be telling or grouping with the ones spied on. 

disadvantages:

 1.) Anyone could see who would trade with who, people who use quest runners would have to find a reason why they would get items for free.. 
     (or take the trade to a dark alley).
 2.) Someone could 'spam' the main-channel with trade messages. (but that's easier by sitting and standing up, or by dropping items and pick them up)
 3.) some things I probably didn't thik about yet. feel free to add..

Overall I think it would rather add to RP then desturb it.
For slipping items to others unnoticed, there could/should be a ‘/givesecret’ option that would use the numbers behind the pickpocket/sneaking skills.

If you have 20 eggs in your inventory, split up in a stack of 19 and 1 separate, /giveitem Test all egg will only give the target 1 egg. You have to stack all eggs together for the command to work.

This also means that if a character has 3 swords stolen via an exploit, and a GM would use /takeitem Cheater all sword, only the stacks would be taken. So if the cheater had 2 swords in a stack and 1 separate, he would keep the separate sword.

Syntax: /giveitem [PlayerName] [Qty|All] <ItemName> [Any]

• Playername is optional, otherwise default to selected target, fail if none selected
• Quantity is optional, default to 1, All gives all in inventory/equipped
• ItemName required, quotes needed for multi-word item names as in “Platinum Ore”
• Any is optional, allows items in containers to be given. Omitting this protects containered items from being given accidentally, allowing players to put things in sacks or other containers that they want to keep safe, same as the Drop command.

Similar to GM giveitem, but with the following restrictions:

• player and target must be in touch range
• player and target may be sitting or standing
• player and target must not be otherwise busy (fighting/crafting/repairing/etc.)
• no restriction for target being overburdened (available slot/stack/capacity limits still apply, see Caveats below)
• similar to PVP, players should have persistent selectable option for receiving given item(s): Always Accept / Prompt to Accept (default) / Never Accept

Along with the command, make Give an option to context menu, which opens a slot window same or similar to that which one gets when giving to an NPC.

Justification:

• Smoother and faster RP (P1 gives P2 a beer)
• Merchant assistant holding extra inventory gives things to merchant for a sale

Caveats:

• Makes using mules a little easier, as in an unattended mule with Always Accept can become a dump bucket for loot or Ore, however current trade rules allow this already, the only difference is that the mule must be attended to complete the trade, while not for receiving a Give. Eventual random spawns of monsters will mitigate this for loot, and miners still have to move all the collected ore to wherever it is to be processed or sold. IMHO the benefits to RP outweigh this issue, since miners have already worked around unattended trading to some degree, either by mAlting or dropping stacks while guarding in proximity.

Extending the idea, add a die-roll chance for target and near proximity observers to be made aware of the exchange. Giver’s Int. and Agility should apply, and Target’s Int. and Observer’s Int. should apply but I’ll leave it to devs to work out how to implement. Any exchange that is more than 1 single item should incrementally raise the chance of being observed. One might still have a good chance of slipping a couple daggers into someone’s pack, but a stack of 20 Ore would be nearly impossible not to notice. Sleeping target might also factor in.

A further extension might be an optional Sneak parameter whereby the Giver attempts to be especially discrete in the exchange, thus lowering the chance to be observed by the target or near proximity observers, but this should be mitigated by quantity as above.

Dropping an item in the forge or furnace while hammering something results in a message similar to “You can’t train your skill while working”, with the item sitting in the container but never heating up.

Instead, the item should refuse to drop in the forge/furnace (similar to the situation when capacity, weight, or slots are exhausted).
Alternatively, the item could drop normally and start heating up.

I have two reasons for requesting this:

1. It runs counter to immersion. Stuff sitting in a hot place heats up in real life, it should do so in Ylliakum as well.
2. It is a griefing opportunity. Start hammering something, fill up the forge with stuff, and watch crafters despair. Since the stuff does not heat up, you can even continue crafting - you can take stuff from a slot normally and immediately replace it, the 300 ms lag will make sure that you can fill the slot before the other crafters even see that you freed the slot.

Feel free to change to Feature Request, I cannot know whether the current behaviour conforms to developer expectations or not.

Make an option that allows a player to make the loot of a corpse public if they do not want it. May not apply to some corpses, and could be used to make other corpses auto-public.

seeing that furnature is one of the heavest item types in the game, redecorating guild halls can become tedious and god forbid things get cluttered it is not possible to eaisly move them to storage. my request is that typing /storage will work inside a guild hall as if you were targeting a storage npc. just for convienance sake.

When I try to select a grill in Brado’s tavern the pink rotating cross does not appear.
Right click works and brings up the action icons. However, putting meat in one of the slots and “use” the grill to grill the meat results in “You interrupted your work when you moved away” every time. Other items like preparation tables, pots, etc. work fine.

I’m running PS on:
Arch linux ( up to date system ) 86×64 intel core i5
mobility radeon HD5xxx series with up to date catalyst drivers.

I logged my console output but I can’t see anything relevant to the problem, could be me so here’s the link:
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Not sure if this was adressed but I have a pile of quest items, that after the whipe Of quests Im not sure what I need to keep for Quest trees, or what I can get rid of. Trying to clean out my inventory/Quest items.

I Haven’t really tried to find a spoiler site that lists quest items and what they are for, or even if one exists

I would like to have the option to buy back item(s) i sold to a npc as precaution for accidental sales.
Its a common feature in other games and would fit PS very well too.

Questions for implementation:
- Should the list be global or npc specific? (buyback only where you sold it)
I tend to make it npc specific as it makes sense and would prevent abuse (e.g. for transportation).

- Add a timer how long the buyback of a sold item is aviable? Its probably easier to add and lighter on ressources to keep a fixed global item amount then adding a timer.

- How many items should be stored to be aviable to buy back? In my opinion a global maximum of 10.

- Should there be an additional fee for buying an already sold item back? I’d say it would make sense. The NPC-buy price of the particular item could be used, since the calculation is already implemented.

- How does it fit into the UI? It could be added in the BUY-from-npc list of the particular NPC. It would only show up when there is something aviable to buy back, similar to how the SELL-to-npc list handles it now.

Any thoughts or ideas?

It’s stupid to not be able to trade (through right clicking the character and clicking ‘trade’) while over encumbered (having to sit down because you’re too heavy). But yet you can just make a shortcut or type /trade and it works.

So my point is, why?

(note: if this task has already been posted and discussed, I did search ‘Trade’ and ‘Trading’)

it would be nice for bards if they had hats where passers-by could throw some tria in. The hat item would serve as a money container as well as a piece of clothing. The advantages to just throwing tria on the ground are that people can’t just steal the money and it would look nicer.

Instead of directly opening the book copy text, it would be nice if a book showed a regular info window first. Title, the authors name, and generic book description. If a Read button were provided, that then opened the window with the book copy text, perhaps an event could be generated so there could be read and unread books in ones inventory. Being able to carry and inspect an unread book perhaps gives some interesting quest possibilities.

It happened to me twice already that I bought a good weapon for tens of thousands of tria, to then find out I need a lot of stats to equip it. And not only can’t I equip it, I don’t know whether it’s worth training for it either because nothing tells me how many more levels I need.

The game shows the effects (damage, speed) and the stats increases/decreases can be looked up in a book in the museum by analyzing the name. Could a way be implemented to know what stats and skills you need to use an item before buying it too? Either as part of identification, as a new separate identification spell for requirements or through some book?

Without that I’m very reluctant to buy anything at all as I spent too much money already on things that are useless to me.

Sometimes I whish to have the ability to store my alchemy sack, or my crafting sack in storage with its content. So I can easily gab it when I want to work on it so naming the sacks (PS#457) would be ideal.

I think it would be nice to see the actual quality of the stored items too in the storage.

Now, you can see the amount, the price and the name of the item.
Sometimes with lot of similar items but with different qualities, it could help you to chose what you need.
At the moment, you need to click on each same named item stacks to see what you need.

I know it would reduce the maximum number of the storable items per category, but considering the long names of looted items, I think this 8 bytes wouldn’t make big difference.

(Merrinez’ Bad Mood)

When I carelessly executed the reply “Thses might help your hands.” (typo fix is probably already pending server update), the gloves my character wears disappeared from his hands, and Merrinez received them. I thought worn armor is not considered to be taken in quests?

Today morning I accidentally destroyed (”sold”) my main weapon (a Frosty Crystal-Steel Battle Axe of Stone). This has happened earlier and to several other players, and it will happen again for sure. It would be very useful to have either
* an option for locking down some items in your inventory to prevent selling them
* a confirmation popup when selling items with a rarity of one in a million or more
* a way to retrieve items, e.g. as suggested in PS#5325
I know it is the players fault, but it can happen easily if there is a lot of lag or if the storage and trade windows happen to be placed on top of each other.

Players, Taya, and I have all seen that crafted items are suddenly missing them name of the crafter. There are also reports of missing names such as “finest”.

I was also able to craft a steel ingot and within a few minutes I managed to lose the information in the examine window which showed I was the crafter of the item.

While I’m crafting I like to take notes on steps necessary to make something so later I can just check my notes. Currently it seems, at least to me, not possible to have more than one book open at a time. It could be useful instead being able to have more than one book open, so for example I could have a crafting technique open and my book with notes open too to copy the necessary steps from the crafting technique.

From Post by apyj13 inhttp://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=41889.msg473672#msg473672 “would it be possible to add a quality “tooltip” on hover so you don’t have to right click on an item when it’s in your inventory to see what quality it is, or perhaps a small number in the corner (similar to what is done with the quantity)?”

Also is it possible to make the numbers for quantity/quality in item slots customisable from skin xmls.

I think it would be more realistic and quite useful for looted items to have a random current quality. Finding enough damaged equipment to practice repair is always tough, this idea would go a long way to making it a more usable skill.

This idea, if properly implemented, could also balance out the values of looted items. A sub-routine could be devised to cause the highest value items suffer the greatest pre-loot damage. So a standard unmodified item could have a flat chance of being anywhere from 1 to 50 out of 50 quality. A one modifier item could roll 2 50-sided dice taking the lower result or average, and so on for 2 modifier and three modifier items. Specific implementation could be subject to testing to determine appropriate rates.

This would result in less of a lottery effect.

Logging out after a longer time of idling, one would expect to login with full health later. But I noticed that my health is a little lower and starts regenerating after I logged in. This is especially obvious for characters with not yet maxed stats, appears to be a relative impact.

I wonder if this is caused by buffing armor parts, e.g. Ulbernaut Bracers (+8 Strength, boosting HP too, indirectly). I could imagine that the max. HP are calculated without buffs, and the current health gets limited to this lower maximum (lower than while logging out previously); then the engine loads armor parts after logging in and has to update the HP maximum, which is now higher with buffs, and the current HP get a headroom to fill up.

I would really like to loot food ingredients that cannot be gotten another way and not have to loot apples. If I want apples I can /harvest or /pickup them. with this change I could add food to my /loot shortcut and not miss out on lard or meat. I don’t think there is another lootable foodstuff that has multiple kinds of sources.

Items that are picked up should go into the upper-left most container in our inventory that it can fit into. This will allow players to choose the order they want their inventory to fill up. When my main inventory is full, items start going into my glyph sack instead of the four empty small cloth sacks available. Thank you for your time :)

I recently wanted to create a shortcut to summon my Rivnak, but it doesn’t work exactly like it should…Here are the commands of my shortcut :

/dequip leftfinger
/equip Ring of Summon Familiar
/pet summon Bigadin
/dequip leftfinger
/equip Crystal Ring

Of course, using the commands one by one in the chat works perfectly. But here is the chat log after using the shortcut :

Usage: /equip [stack count] [slot] [item name]
You feel a connection to your familiar.
You’ve gained 1 Practice points in Empathy.

Weirdly, it seems that when the last line is executed, my ring is still considered equipped, and so it cannot be equipped. I thought that with another item which exist in several copies, it would work through equipping another copy, but even that do not work. I tried using it with 2 Silver Rings in my inventory (so the line /equip Crystal Ring become /equip Silver Ring), and both when the quality is the same and when it is not (and so it doesn’t stack) :

You feel a connection to your familiar.
You’ve gained 1 Practice points in Empathy.
This item cannot be equipped.

I hope the informations are sufficient to allow you to understand and solve the problem.

When opening a chest, sometimes it will say “you find some ingot”, but give you none.

Seen it on Reinforced chest, sure I saw it on a different chest before as well.

Just a Quality of life improvement due to the current setting conflict between weapons that must be equipped to provide a stat bonus and the IC issue with holding weapons in a city. The implementation of this should be a command of /Sheath and /Draw on execution of /Sheath any weapons carried by the player will be re positioned to the characters back or belt and appear to be sheathed. When sheathed the weapons will still be present in the players equipment slots and continue to provide any stat bonuses or other magical effects however the city guards will no longer react to characters as though they have weapons drawn.

/Draw returns all sheathed weapons to the players hand

being attacked or entering combat stance will automatically Draw any sheathed weapons

to recreate;
1. place container on ground (sack, crate…)
2. right-click container → Look
3. Place stacked items in container (tested with daggers, arrows, potions, rings)
4. From container, Select (1) item from stack, place on ground
Entire stack is removed from container (same effect for all items tested)
This does not happen when container is in inventory

Would be nice to be able to save the contents of an editable book into a local file on the client computer like it was possible in Crystalspace based PSUnreal.

Low priority as it is also possible to cut&paste contents. However for longer books it would still be nice to be able to edit them in a local text editor and then load them again into PSUnreal.

items inside the mail window have no weight/quality/size.

Steps to reproduce:
1. go to a fast travel npc and click on mail
2. click on write mail tab
3. place item(s)/coin(s) in the mail window
4. hover over items

persists in received and sent tabs as well. You can send mail to yourself to test.

In PS Legacy, when selecting an amount from a stack of items, the slider would “remember” what the previous amount was. This would be useful in PS Unreal for subdividing stacks for crafting, especially since /equip /dequip are not currently ported to PS Unreal (which was the other common way of subdividing stacks for crafting).

Dragging a glyph from an inventory container (e.g. sack or glyph sack) into any slot in Spell Research window causes the glyph to disappear from the container until window is re-opened.

Steps:

- Open Spell Research window from “spellbook”.

- Open glyph sack and drag glyph into any slot in Spell Research window. (Try to use Research or Way slots. Purify Glyph slot only reproducible if right hand has item equipped.)

- Glyph seems to have disappeared from container, but will reappear if window is refreshed.

Additional info:
Dragging glyph from glyph sack on the ground to Spell Research slots puts it into inventory.
Moving a glyph from inventory into Purify Glyph slot equips the glyph in right hand but does not begin purification.
(Not sure if these features are conflicting with spell research.)

having looked for a map piece in eagle bronze doors, it is clear that the map piece is missing. the last time it was there is was in the hands of the dwarf taimian yangnk.i have failed to find it on anyone there

You may pick Energy Glyph or Energy Glyph. And it should be Levrus’ Rat Eyes

The item description of a “Shiny Major Gold Diamond Necklace” states that the item has a (base-?) buff of +3 CHR.

It hasn’t when equipped.

Either the description of the buff effects need a fix.

there are two libraries in the game one run by jayose in hydlaa and the other a smaller collection of books run by londris in the death realm.

one of the main complaints about planeshift is the lack of information about the game. both of these libraries contain information for ic use but at the same time the books are locked into their shelves and cannot even be coppied unless a player spends the time to manually enter everything into a text file and upload it to a blank book.

my idea is to share the information by adding buy and sell catagories to jayose and londris that match the bookshelves in the library and contain copies of the books stored in each. basically have them sell copies of the library books that you can take with you and share with your friends or even put in a guild hall for easier access.

in all it makes perfect sense that a man who sells blank books would have the resources to copy and sell the important guides and informational books stored in the library

The random weapons naming system is one of the excellent features of PlaneShift, and crystals have always been iconic to PlaneShift. Different varieties of mineral crystals produced at the mine sites. Some descriptors that would indicate quality on the crystals, like: Smoky, cloudy, occulted, clear, milky, flecked, fractured, et cetera. Smoky sapphire, occulted Ruby, et cetera. These could indicate grades of quality. Perhaps there should be a chance to pull extremely unique crystals of magical quality with two or more modifiers. I would not be surprised if this was already thought of, but I wanted to put it up here while it was in my mind.

I would enjoy reading a bit of the Greataxe Nyshyn identified. But the scroll is empty.

Over numerous days my character has left items on the Gug altar. After un-guarding them with /guard they are checked and seen not to be guarded by the character anymore. Upon return on a subsequent login they are found to be guarded by the character again. The same items have been un-guarded several times with the same result.

With a weight of 9 and a size of 9, the model of “White Oak Wood” appears to be way too large. Such a big heap of wood would weight more than 50 kg. In contrast, the icon is such a tiny poking stick…

with alchemist fire/freezer equipped → attack npc
chat responds ‘You have no weapons equipped’

i have been checking this spawn point for chests for a while. when last update was completed i cleared the adorned crates from the area, which numbered 3 in the stack. today after a check i find another 3 stacked neatly with no offline looking chest suggesting a player moved them. i believe these chests are spawning too high and thus we get a repeat spawning until they appear at the spawn point.

/pos 533371.69 -366812.44 15751.50

found some night mushrooms that are stacking at /pos 181562.80 -349987.28 12869.13. one other issue is that closing in to get a closer /pos, seems to crash the game.

Hi,

during my questing in the game, I found a book “The Derghir Menace”, located at Hydlaa’s library, which seems to have broken coding which causes the book’s text to appear together with the incorrect code tags.

See the picture in the link.
//drive.proton.me/urls/BRXAMDATTM#9ENQSvOiXOiu

Thanks!
Bohemia

The quality of items shown during mouse over is one lower then the actual quality shown in info box after right click.

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You already mentioned that the former “Dweomer detection”, which only vaguely returns a possible enchantment of a weapon, is rather useless as there are also buffs which are not at all obvious regarding stats and skills.

Not to waste the spell in general, I wonder if it was possible to implement instead that a similar one could be used to detect the presence of natural resources. Depending on some experience level, possibly in combination with another glyph (e.g. Earth, Animal, Tree), it could enable the caster to only vaguely detect presence of areas in a more or less close range where mining, fishing, harvesting, etc. (generic type) might be possible (”You feel that harvesting could be possible here.”), up to a more detailed feeling that specific resources are probably in some vague but graduated distance (”You feel that fishing for carp could be possible just next to you.”).

Of course, any new spell could be created as well.

There are reports of spells that don’t have any effect anymore (neither on you or on enemies)

Known are
- meteor
- missile shower
- dazling light
- flame burst

It has been brought to my attention that friendly AoE spells can be used to detect invisible GMs who are within the range of the spell. A check on spells cast from accounts with 0 security could be added that only allows friendly spells to be cast on targets which are ‘visible’ hereby preventing GMs from being targeted when invisible.

spells that give buffs should have their duration reset upon further castings instead of casting having no effect within the spells duration.

If I cast defensive wind, currently subsequent castings have no effect while the spell is active. Could this be changed so that the second spell restarts the duration timer?

1) For damage capped spells, sliding the power bar above the point where max damage is produced, mana cost is over-charged against the character, in addition to lowering success chance and increasing casting time more than appropriate.

2) If the kill shot (magic) produces more damage than needed to finish off the target, full mana cost is charged even if not needed.

I think it would be more appropriate if the mana cost was down-scaled to the net effect:
- if target only has 30 hit points left, a 60-point damage spell should only charge half the mana
- if target only needs 5 hit points to be fully healed, a 60-point healing spell should only charge 1/12th of the mana cost
- for area spells, calculate against sum effect on all impacted targets.
- if you’re going to cap damage, should also cap mana cost and not over-penalize in success chance and cast time when the slider is set too high

Where I’ve referenced the magic power slider above, same should be true for spell commands that explicitly have a power value
- i.e. “/cast 90 Taste of Death”

Justification: The mage should be able to determine if a “light touch” will suffice, but players have no way to turn down magic power to improve success chance and/or reduce mana cost and casting time.

Taking this a step further, practice and experience perhaps should be similarly down-scaled, with the possibility of giving none if no actual effect is the result (this would impact spam casting for power-leveling).