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General Discussion / Religion in PlaneShift
« on: October 14, 2011, 02:28:22 pm »
So in my English class we just finished reading The Iliad, and during the course of the book I started thinking about religion and gods in Yliakum and how people's faith would affect their everyday lives. I mean, it's been established that the gods are very real and occasionally stop in to say hello, so it seems to me like Yliakum's inhabitants would make a point of trying to please the gods through their actions - like in The Iliad when they feast and pour libations and say little prayers and whatnot. I also thought that maybe coming up with an accepted set of religious mannerisms for each specific religion would add depth to the world.
I know people already have weddings in Xiosia's garden and the Laanx temple and such, but I'm talking more general practices here, like what a typical worship service would be like, or maybe even a funeral service (if they ever have those). Like in our world - maybe followers of Dakkru fast one day of the month. Or maybe Talad's followers meditate a lot. Or even belief-wise. Maybe in the Laanx religion you aren't allowed to get a divorce, whereas Xiosia supports polygamy. It's things like that that I want to develop and clarify.
Am I making sense?
Basically I just think we should band together and (if these sorts of things haven't already been established by some dev or other and are just being kept secret right now) establish accepted practices, mannerisms and beliefs for the various religions to add to the RP in PS.
Anyway, in preparation for this I did some research in the East Hydlaa Library, the Death Realm library, and the PS wiki to gather what information I could about religious ideas that are already canon. I would also like the Brotherhood of Talad and the Daughters of Xiosia, along with any other religious guilds, to share with us any established ceremonies that they've already come up with. What happens at a Xiosian wedding or a Talad worship service? Clue us in!
Here's what I have so far:
LAANX:
Laanx is easily the most developed religion in PS. A book in Jayose's library talks about the Five Branches of Laanx and specifies each branch's duties.
- Pryam translates the Book of Names and manages the religion's finances.
- Noctar is in charge of education and runs all Laanx-affiliated colleges and schools, the teachers of which are priests.
- Vestru regulates marriage and children, manages orphanages, and specifies "proper behavior" for parents and children.
- Ogan is in charge of the arts and celebrations (excluding weddings).
- Sempetor comprises the guards and enforcers. They cannot act on their own.
The book talks about the leadership of the religion, which I don't think is relevant at this point. (Just remember - 40 Diats, eight for each level and one for each branch)
Subsequent books begin to actually specify lifestyle choices. For example, priests do not marry, and each Laanx follower is expected to have a private shrine in his or her home where worship is done. These shrines also include a fancy urn, donated by the church, where donations are made - a priest collects these donations once a month. Also, followers must attend a monthly worship service at their nearest temple.
Laanx attracts Red and Azure Way mages, inventors and scientists, politicians, lawmakers, writers, city dwellers, warriors, and the wealthy and educated.
All of that ^ is what we're given. So, what else can we come up with?
The branches provide a lot of ideas. Personally, I find the branch dedicated to regulating marriage intriguing. IS the Laanx religion a supporter of same-sex marriage? Do they allow divorce? Or are both of those not considered "proper behavior" for parents? What about interracial marriages? Are children raised strictly, with rules and limitations, or allowed to explore the boundaries of right and wrong? Does Laanx support "the death penalty" (flying murderers into the crystal)?
And that's just beliefs. When we start talking about what goes into various ceremonies, things get even stickier.
How often do followers of Laanx pray and attend service? What sort of things happen during a particular service? Is it long? Are there animal sacrifices? Communion? Libations? Singing? Dancing? Confession? Long, quiet periods of introspection?
When you read the history of Laanx/Talad/Yliakum/the Lemurs it says that they often sang during what I suppose could be called a "service," and that when the Ogan branch organizes celebrations they are "wild and chaotic". Things to consider! It also says in one book that an ancient law (now defunct) that is sometimes still practiced by very traditional Xacha and Lemurs states that followers must be married by 17 and bearing children by 20. If a spouse could not be found, the church would choose one; similarly, if kids weren't appearing, the church would "intervene." If that doesn't make for an interesting RP for somebody at some point, I don't know what will.
The branches encourage RP in other ways. Why not open a Hydlaa Vestru orphanage? Or an Ogan performing arts center?
The possibilities are endless.
TALAD
Talad is less defined than Laanx. From what I gather, the main idea behind Talad's religion is that followers of Talad love donating their money and skills to the less fortunate and practice patience. Maybe Gugrontid or Ojaveda needs a Talad homeless shelter?
I'm waiting on input from the Brotherhood of Talad here. I don't know how much you guys have already come up with. I tried to make it to a worship service you put on once, but had to log before it could really start, so please share your ideas
XIOSIA
Same with Xiosia. I'm very interested in what DoX has come up with. Xiosia is, of course, a big fan of peace and nature and harmony and not-killing-things. They're very open-minded and I believe I read into meditation. However, one discrepancy I may have found - I believe it said that warriors are attracted to the Xiosian faith, which is weird considering that whole peace thing. So maybe Xiosian warriors only kill out of necessity and pray a lot before/during/after the act?
DAKKRU
Of course I could find the least amount of information on Dakkru. She's the goddess of death and all that, and her followers attempt to combat the Black Flame and fight duels to the death in her honor, but what else? Do they take a cavalier attitude towards death because of their affiliation with her? Do HER worship services include animal sacrifices? OR! Maybe evenHUMANPERSON sacrifices, if death ISN'T a big deal? Maybe it's like an honor. "Whoops, it's Tuesday, my turn to get sacrificed to the Almighty Dakkru!"
See how much fun this is!
I really can't wait to hear everyone else's ideas on this. Ready... COLLABORATE.
Sorry this is so long.
P.S. One last thing I don't understand. Being an oldbie, of course I'm aware of a time that Dakkru and Xiosia didn't exist. But is the rest of the world? Is part of the story (as I understand it) that they just sort of popped into existence and revealed themselves to Yliakum? Or is this one of those "Nod and smile, they've always been there." kind of things?
I know people already have weddings in Xiosia's garden and the Laanx temple and such, but I'm talking more general practices here, like what a typical worship service would be like, or maybe even a funeral service (if they ever have those). Like in our world - maybe followers of Dakkru fast one day of the month. Or maybe Talad's followers meditate a lot. Or even belief-wise. Maybe in the Laanx religion you aren't allowed to get a divorce, whereas Xiosia supports polygamy. It's things like that that I want to develop and clarify.
Am I making sense?
Basically I just think we should band together and (if these sorts of things haven't already been established by some dev or other and are just being kept secret right now) establish accepted practices, mannerisms and beliefs for the various religions to add to the RP in PS.
Anyway, in preparation for this I did some research in the East Hydlaa Library, the Death Realm library, and the PS wiki to gather what information I could about religious ideas that are already canon. I would also like the Brotherhood of Talad and the Daughters of Xiosia, along with any other religious guilds, to share with us any established ceremonies that they've already come up with. What happens at a Xiosian wedding or a Talad worship service? Clue us in!
Here's what I have so far:
LAANX:
Laanx is easily the most developed religion in PS. A book in Jayose's library talks about the Five Branches of Laanx and specifies each branch's duties.
- Pryam translates the Book of Names and manages the religion's finances.
- Noctar is in charge of education and runs all Laanx-affiliated colleges and schools, the teachers of which are priests.
- Vestru regulates marriage and children, manages orphanages, and specifies "proper behavior" for parents and children.
- Ogan is in charge of the arts and celebrations (excluding weddings).
- Sempetor comprises the guards and enforcers. They cannot act on their own.
The book talks about the leadership of the religion, which I don't think is relevant at this point. (Just remember - 40 Diats, eight for each level and one for each branch)
Subsequent books begin to actually specify lifestyle choices. For example, priests do not marry, and each Laanx follower is expected to have a private shrine in his or her home where worship is done. These shrines also include a fancy urn, donated by the church, where donations are made - a priest collects these donations once a month. Also, followers must attend a monthly worship service at their nearest temple.
Laanx attracts Red and Azure Way mages, inventors and scientists, politicians, lawmakers, writers, city dwellers, warriors, and the wealthy and educated.
All of that ^ is what we're given. So, what else can we come up with?
The branches provide a lot of ideas. Personally, I find the branch dedicated to regulating marriage intriguing. IS the Laanx religion a supporter of same-sex marriage? Do they allow divorce? Or are both of those not considered "proper behavior" for parents? What about interracial marriages? Are children raised strictly, with rules and limitations, or allowed to explore the boundaries of right and wrong? Does Laanx support "the death penalty" (flying murderers into the crystal)?
And that's just beliefs. When we start talking about what goes into various ceremonies, things get even stickier.
How often do followers of Laanx pray and attend service? What sort of things happen during a particular service? Is it long? Are there animal sacrifices? Communion? Libations? Singing? Dancing? Confession? Long, quiet periods of introspection?
When you read the history of Laanx/Talad/Yliakum/the Lemurs it says that they often sang during what I suppose could be called a "service," and that when the Ogan branch organizes celebrations they are "wild and chaotic". Things to consider! It also says in one book that an ancient law (now defunct) that is sometimes still practiced by very traditional Xacha and Lemurs states that followers must be married by 17 and bearing children by 20. If a spouse could not be found, the church would choose one; similarly, if kids weren't appearing, the church would "intervene." If that doesn't make for an interesting RP for somebody at some point, I don't know what will.
The branches encourage RP in other ways. Why not open a Hydlaa Vestru orphanage? Or an Ogan performing arts center?
The possibilities are endless.
TALAD
Talad is less defined than Laanx. From what I gather, the main idea behind Talad's religion is that followers of Talad love donating their money and skills to the less fortunate and practice patience. Maybe Gugrontid or Ojaveda needs a Talad homeless shelter?
I'm waiting on input from the Brotherhood of Talad here. I don't know how much you guys have already come up with. I tried to make it to a worship service you put on once, but had to log before it could really start, so please share your ideas
XIOSIA
Same with Xiosia. I'm very interested in what DoX has come up with. Xiosia is, of course, a big fan of peace and nature and harmony and not-killing-things. They're very open-minded and I believe I read into meditation. However, one discrepancy I may have found - I believe it said that warriors are attracted to the Xiosian faith, which is weird considering that whole peace thing. So maybe Xiosian warriors only kill out of necessity and pray a lot before/during/after the act?
DAKKRU
Of course I could find the least amount of information on Dakkru. She's the goddess of death and all that, and her followers attempt to combat the Black Flame and fight duels to the death in her honor, but what else? Do they take a cavalier attitude towards death because of their affiliation with her? Do HER worship services include animal sacrifices? OR! Maybe even
See how much fun this is!
I really can't wait to hear everyone else's ideas on this. Ready... COLLABORATE.
Sorry this is so long.
P.S. One last thing I don't understand. Being an oldbie, of course I'm aware of a time that Dakkru and Xiosia didn't exist. But is the rest of the world? Is part of the story (as I understand it) that they just sort of popped into existence and revealed themselves to Yliakum? Or is this one of those "Nod and smile, they've always been there." kind of things?