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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: ylikone on January 04, 2006, 08:50:11 pm
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I am working on a site which guild owners can list their guild on. Guild owners will be able to log in and edit their info at any time. I know there are a bunch of sites that already provide guild lists, including the sticky here... but that\'s besides the point, I\'m hoping mine will remain updated (by the guild owners themselves, not by me) and the information is sortable (and in the future maybe I\'ll add search features)!
So, if some of you guild owners would like to beta test my site, please go to http://guildlisting.com and click on the \"Guild Owners\" link in the top right corner and sign up.
Please understand that this site is still under construction, although the main functions are working. I will post here again once the site is fully operational.
Thanks!
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Nice. I\'ve been looking to do something like \"featured guild\" as well. This would be where a guild is interviewed ( can be in character or out of character ) about their guild and we can post it on the main site.
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If this really hits off, it might as well just replace the stickied Guild List, since the site will be able to provide a lot more content :) Almost like Kada\'s, but... well, hopefully updated more.
Make the site as aesthetically pleasing as you can, too :D Think of all the sections (and subsections!) you may want, and then build around that. Good luck!
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I suck with graphics, so I am at a loss to make it really look better. Maybe someone would like to volunteer some design abilities? Anyway, that is better left for a later time, we\'ll see if the site actually gets used first.
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I like this idea... once I get a nice working website and someone good to manage it, I\'ll be able to get on and sign up with that :D You got my support :)
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You know it\'ll be used more if it\'s pretty ;D Eh? Eh? I could volunteer a few arting abilities (every now and then, whenever time allows), if you ever need something.
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Sound\'s good, maybe you should Interview guild\'s ask them a few question\'s.
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I\'d happily answer questions... hey, think on this site, the guilds could have their symbols shown? I know that I made one and don\'t want it to go to waste besides in my signature :P
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Guild symbols or logos are shown underneath the Guild Name. You can see the little pic I put up under my test guild.
I am just waiting for some guild owners to join so I can see some more entries in the listing.
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ylikone, if you need any help authoring the site PM me. I\'ve been building them for 8 years. I\'m not very good with graphics but I can do just about anything else with a web page.
Also, if some guilds need help authoring a webpage let me know.
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this is a good idea... since kada\'s has gone all quiet (shamefully) planeshift needs another updating guild thing
i would recomend you get some other people to help you update :)
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Originally posted by seperot
this is a good idea... since kada\'s has gone all quiet (shamefully) planeshift needs another updating guild thing
i would recomend you get some other people to help you update :)
That\'s the great thing about my site... *I* don\'t need to keep the info updated, guild owners log in and do it themselves whenever they want. Each guild owner gets an account to be able to edit their listing entry.
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Wow! Sometimes I think you have way too much time on youre hands :). Nice idea though. Ill make sure I tell Charims to put us in.
I could probably also help you with the graphics.
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Originally posted by Shadowcast
Wow! Sometimes I think you have way too much time on youre hands :). Nice idea though. Ill make sure I tell Charims to put us in.
I could probably also help you with the graphics.
Sometimes I do have too much time. Not always.
Thanks for everyone that is offering help with coding and/or graphics. I\'ve got the HTML/PHP/MySQL coding under control, but as I have no graphics skills or color scheme skills (I\'m color-blind), then whatever help or suggestions in those areas I can get, I\'ll take.
Firstly, does somebody want to suggest a better color scheme? Shades of blackness is boring. I would need suggestions for background color, text color, link color, alternating cell-row background colors, and table header background color.
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Textures are a lot more interesting :) Check Kada\'s (http://tavern.blueglyph.net/) for example. As for deciding on color schemes, some neutral brown seems a good choice. There\'s a really nifty color palette creator (http://slayeroffice.com/tools/color_palette/) you can use, a color blender (http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/color-blend/), and a color mixer (http://colormixers.com/mixers/cmr/) that will help you out tons when trying to decide on tones that will look good together ;)
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Originally posted by ylikone
That\'s the great thing about my site... *I* don\'t need to keep the info updated, guild owners log in and do it themselves whenever they want. Each guild owner gets an account to be able to edit their listing entry.
The big thing about keeping a guildlist updated, is to frequently remove the inactive guilds. That\'s one thing guild leaders often don\'t do for you, as they often simply disappear. So you should still actively check if all the guilds in your list are still alive to prevent the list from getting poluted with dead guilds.
Nice idea though. A good working guildlist is highly needed.
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EDIT:
Yeah, it won\'t hurt to have another list.
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I\'ve made a few background tiles from graphics in the game and put them up... still looks aweful I think. If anybody wants to make me some nice seamless tiling textures, I would appreciate it. Just email them to ylikone[at]gmail[dot]com
Also, any guild owners that created an account, I wouldn\'t mind feedback on if there are bugs or extra features you\'d like to see.
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Using PlaneShift art for such stuffs is prohibited by the license if I recall. If you bug Talad for a bit he might give you special persimmons or something >.>
In the meantime, I could help with textures :] I think.
come to #ps-mc on irc.freenode.net and poke at one of the joses, or iktomis. I\'ve been thinking about making something like this for a while, but I\'m not much good with php and the like :P
josePhoenix
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I\'ve changed the listing layout slightly. Any other ideas on what other columns of data would be nice in this? I can probably fit one or two more between \"Leader\" and \"Last Updated\".
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Hum, I can\'t seem to be able to log in. I use my password and the right email (the one of my account) but it say it ain\'t right.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Hum, I can\'t seem to be able to log in. I use my password and the right email (the one of my account) but it say it ain\'t right.
The hotmail address you specified gives me an error (does not exist) when I try to send email to it. Please send me what you want as a login/email and password to ylikone[AT]gmail[DOT]com and I will adjust your account accordingly.
Just as a general comment to anyone that wants to join-up to guildlisting.com but does not want to give me an email address, just use a service like http://www.dodgeit.com which allows free temporary receive-only addresses. I doesn\'t matter to me, as I am not interested in collecting email addresses, it\'s just a way to make sure people get unique logins and I can contact you when your account has been setup.
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Originally posted by ylikone
Any other ideas on what other columns of data would be nice in this?
Yes. You could add \"active members\" next to members, because especially guilds with a large member count mostly have a lot of inactive players. ;)
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I\'m not sure if an \"active members\" can be kept updated by the leaders properly, so I am not sure if adding that column would really mean much. What do others think of adding this column? Thanks for the suggestion though.
I recently added an \"announcement\" feature for guild leaders. Now a leader can send an email to all other leaders with accounts on the site, without revealing email addresses (senders or receivers).
The site now has 13 guilds signed-up and I\'ve fixed a lot of the little bugs that were found. I think it is safe to say the site is now fully functional and out of beta testing. I still am looking for someone to volunteer making better seamless background tile images for me, but that is not urgent in my opinion.
If you are a guild leader and you haven\'t joined up yet, please do so!
Thanks!
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PM me with what you need for the backgrounds. I think I can help... maybe... ;)
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Active members would be hard to keep updated. It might be a good place to show alliances/wars. Although that may be hard to keep updated too.
What about the guilds with multiple leaders? Maybe something to have multiple people to update can help.
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Originally posted by Shadowcast
Active members would be hard to keep updated. It might be a good place to show alliances/wars. Although that may be hard to keep updated too.
What about the guilds with multiple leaders? Maybe something to have multiple people to update can help.
The multiple logins being able to edit a single entry might be a good idea.
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cool. Tell me when/how i can login. Thx
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you could add a location column. GUild leaders can say where they can be found in Planeshift.
This could help players looking for guild shops and leaders IG.
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Originally posted by ylikone
I\'m not sure if an \"active members\" can be kept updated by the leaders properly, so I am not sure if adding that column would really mean much.
Well, that might be true. (However, I\'d like to have a column on the list which indicates how active a guild is.)
Originally posted by Hellios
you could add a location column. GUild leaders can say where they can be found in Planeshift.
This could help players looking for guild shops and leaders IG.
Maybe. But I don\'t think that most guild leaders will stick to that one location they specified all the time when they are in-game. ;)
A simple /who and a /tell will probably do it, too.
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Everything\'s working. Thanks Ylikone :D
Plus, I\'ve only accounted the aproximate number of active members.
It\'s no problem for a guild like the Dark Empire to update on the number of active members. But the leaders of guilds with 100 members don\'t even know half their members, let alone know who is active or not.
Yes. This is a critic to mass recruiting guilds.
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1) fine I\'ll put the number of the ones that are active
2) yes, I DO know all of my members thank you very much
3) btw if you are criticizing us, all our members have joined in a span of 5-6 months, we do not go out actively hunting down everyone who is not in a guild and invite them...
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Hey, I just thought I\'d say that the Feline\'s Lair could be removed from the list since Ayshe has officially disbanded it. :)
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Originally posted by Father Sengus
Hey, I just thought I\'d say that the Feline\'s Lair could be removed from the list since Ayshe has officially disbanded it. :)
I was just gonna say the same thing. See, um... Ayshe volunteered me to do the updating, and um... I kinda lost the password and all... so... :rolleyes:
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Allow me to use both this (http://guildlisting.com) and the other (http://www.planeshiftguilds.com/) player created lists to further my arguments on my We Need Info On Alignment (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=21866&boardid=11&styleid=3&sid=28593446b080d5db5da7335d9d123e1a&page=1#1) thread.
Analysing these two lists we can see that they both use an alignments system. It seems to be similar to the Dungeon & Dragon one.
Anywho, why would they do that? Because PS doesn\'t inform the players about the existence or lack of a PS alignment system and so players act on their lack of information, adopting systems alien to the game.
I don\'t agree with the usage of an alignment system in any of these lists, since PS has yet to decide if such a thing exists or not.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Allow me to use both this (http://guildlisting.com) and the other (http://www.planeshiftguilds.com/) player created lists to further my arguments on my We Need Info On Alignment (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=21866&boardid=11&styleid=3&sid=28593446b080d5db5da7335d9d123e1a&page=1#1) thread.
Analysing these two lists we can see that they both use an alignments system. It seems to be similar to the Dungeon & Dragon one.
Anywho, why would they do that? Because PS doesn\'t inform the players about the existence or lack of a PS alignment system and so players act on their lack of information, adopting systems alien to the game.
I don\'t agree with the usage of an alignment system in any of these lists, since PS has yet to decide if such a thing exists or not.
If characters in PS speak English (or \'the human tongue\') then one must know...well the words in it. Good and Evil are definitely in the language and therefore are set up for interpretation by each individual character in-game. When I was oh, say, 5 years old, and didn\'t know what \'evil\' meant, I knew of other words, \"mean\", \"nasty\", \"bullies\", \"people-who-think-they-are-the-best-at-everything-and-should-own-everything\" (didn\'t know the word egocentric then). All can fit into the definition of evil, by many people\'s interpretation at the very least. Therefore, in-game, there is good and evil, just like in every world. Though who is actually good and who is actually evil is dependent on the person\'s point of view (someone who wants to conquer the world may say democracy is evil for instance) may say they are good.
Just because the game makes no \"boundaries\", or a set division, or even an option to check off at character creation for good and evil, doesn\'t mean there is no good and evil in-game.
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My decision to allow showing your guild allignment on guildlisting.com came from looking at the many static guild listings that are already on the net. ALL OF THEM have alignments. So, I figured mine should also.
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I agree with you ylikone, plus, it gives people looking for a guild a quicker way to filter out the ones they dont want to be in.
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And shorty, you are as right as I am.
Because you are speaking about IC good and evil and I\'m speaking about being informed OOC about PS\'s choice on an alignment system.
I have to disagree on the advantage you named for the alignment system as vehemently as I once agreed with it.
Because I now think the small description does a far better work.
Plus, since Yliakum is such a new world to most, so original and creative, I think it would add to it having its inhabitants free of old tagging systems like D&Ds :P.
So don\'t take me wrong. I do agree that characters call each other good and evil (considering they have arguments, senses or mental disorders), I just don\'t agree with players tagging characters and guilds using alien systems with uncertain sources. And I understand they can do little else until the PS team itself has taken a stand on that.
*struggles to be on topic*
And Ylikone, I was thinking... Maybe you could add some lines in those tables, I think they would look prettier :D
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Hey everybody, just wanted to bump this long dead thread and say that the site still exists and is still operating. Remember to login and update your guild info sometime if you have one listed on the site.
http://www.guildlisting.com
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The guild The Way of the Hammer needs updating, we have a new leader and council, along with a new web site and many more members. to do this I would need access to edit it.
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Hey, Just found this site, and its a brilliant idea. Looks nice, and is very useful. Good Job! :thumbsup:
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If anybody has a guild that they have taken over and need access to their guild entry, just email me ylikone@gmail.com and tell me what login/pw you want and I can modify it.
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Would it be possible to add a feature where if a guild leader doesn't log in say, every month, then their listing is suspended? This is just a thought about how to keep the dead guilds out...
Also, you really need to work on the graphics...
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That's possible to do - I know Nilaya has Explorers who don't log into our forums in a couple of months go into an "Inactive" group. I've no idea how that's done, but contacting Nil about it is bound to be useful.
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it's done as a forum feature i think, it can be easily done with invisionfree's... just make an if no posts have been posted in a month then move user to group inactive.
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That's exactly the sort of thing I was suggesting. That way the website can pretty much maintain itself. I just find guild lists with dead guilds frustrating.
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That's exactly the sort of thing I was suggesting. That way the website can pretty much maintain itself. I just find guild lists with dead guilds frustrating.
Maybe an email could be sent after inactivity in a month saying something like "You haven't logged in in a month, if you haven't in a week your guild will be deleted from the list" however i haven't logged in since i haven't gotten any need to edit it, threw members out others came in...
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Ok, I will be implementing these good suggestions shortly. And once again, if anybody has graphics or different template for me to use for the site, I will gladly accept it... I suck at graphics and design being mostly a PHP coder.
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Ylikone, I sent an email regarding the changes for TWH, im just wondering if you had recived it.
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I am working on a site which guild owners can list their guild on. Guild owners will be able to log in and edit their info at any time. I know there are a bunch of sites that already provide guild lists, including the sticky here... but that\'s besides the point, I\'m hoping mine will remain updated (by the guild owners themselves, not by me) and the information is sortable (and in the future maybe I\'ll add search features)!
So, if some of you guild owners would like to beta test my site, please go to http://guildlisting.com and click on the \"Guild Owners\" link in the top right corner and sign up.
Please understand that this site is still under construction, although the main functions are working. I will post here again once the site is fully operational.
Thanks!
*oes to site and signes up :)*
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Wow, this is old. Why'd you bump it?
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Wow, this is old. Why'd you bump it?
:-\ ??? :-\ What!!? :-\ ??? :-\
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Ylikone himself posted here first to update folks on the website. Norm wasn't the one.
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Oh. =P