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Fan Area => Roleplaying (Communitive Storywriting) => Topic started by: zanzibar on May 05, 2006, 02:32:31 am
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Shalmaneser entered the gates of Hydlaa with the enki woman close at his side. After they passed through the gates together, the woman’s eyes widened as she took in the city for the first time in years.
“Does it look very familiar to you?” Shal asked.
“Yes… yes, I know this place! But much has changed.”
They walked along the stone path until the statue of Talad came into view. Shalmaneser told her to seek the Vespers near the temple if she needed further help. She thanked him for all he had done for her, and they parted ways in the crowd.
“Cheater.”
The stranger’s voice emanated from behind Shal’s back. He turned.
“Honourless cheater.”
The speaker was another female enki, but younger, and clad entirely in fresh leather armour from head to toe. He didn’t recognize her face, but something in her tone was eerily familiar. He recognized an insignia woven into her breast covering: Dwarvesbane.
“I know your guild mate Drahlian, fenki, but I’m afraid I do not know your name nor the source of your displeasure.”
“I am Quitaa, and you are a cheater. Drahlian has told me about you… that you use potions in combat! You fight without honour!”
Shalmaneser was taken aback by Quitaa’s unprovoked rudeness, but he then remembered a time when he protected a party of dwarves from Drahlian. He used light green potions to avoid having to kill the dwarf-hater, and Drahlian never forgave him for it. He glared at Quitaa. "I will do whatever is necessary to protect my friends. Such battles are about survival."
Stone faced, Quitaa ignored him and turned her head towards the large crowd that occupied the plaza. “I don’t think that Shalmaneser would win a single fight without potions!”
Though her tone was so strikingly familiar, Shal took even more notice of being spoken of in the third person. She was not talking to him, no - she was talking to the crowd. Her taunts were for their ears as much as they were for Shalmaneser’s. He heard a snicker. This was a trick. This was a trap, and Quitaa’s clasp on the hilt of her dagger was tight.
“Quitaa, it is? Hiding behind false names and false accusations... you talk with the tongue of a coward. But did I hear you right? You wish to duel as a test of honour?”
“Sure.”
“By the fountain then? Someone is likely to be hurt if we stay in this crowded place.”
The two walked separately down the stone steps to the floor of the plaza and stopped near the feet of Talad’s likeness. Shalmaneser stared up at the crystal staff held by the stone giant. Even though his faith lay with Laanx, he was still able to appreciate the symbol for what it represented to so many: Faith, strength, forgiveness, and honour. Remembering where he was and why he was there, his attention returned to his physical reality. The Dwarvesbane enki that had showed him such a wicked tongue had moved and was now standing far from him near the other side of the plaza. His senses went into overdrive; he noticed the smell of food and ale in the air from a nearby tournament, there was the clanging of Harnquist as he tended his craft and the bellow of his furnace, and there was the scent of musk and incense from Laanx’s temple and her worshippers. And he saw his enemy, her mouth moving as she looked back at him from afar, and there was a burning pain in his shoulder. He was hit by an arrow.
Shalmaneser ran at his enemy full force as he realized that his time was running out. It seemed that arrow after arrow came at him. The short dash was a lifetime as different parts of his body exploded with fiery pain from Quitaa’s magic.
The two met. Mid-spell, Quitaa dashed at Shalmaneser even as he ran towards her. The two sliced air with their blades and moved past one another. On the verge of collapse from the toll of the arrows, Shal looked at his blades. One was bloodied. ‘Yes!’ he thought to himself. ‘At least that trickster will not get away without some pain to remember me by!’ He was pulled back into the moment as yet another arrow struck him, this one near his temple. Looking up through the haze of his injuries, he saw Quitaa’s figure even as she spoke yet another incantation through a twisted smile. Shal saw blackness, there was a warm trickle down his back, and his face rested on the stone floor of the plaza.
As Quitaa walked up to him, Shal’s thoughts were simple and fading. ‘Mongrel cheater… to use magic… in such a duel?’
“You know,” Quitaa said as she loomed over Shalmaneser’s dieing body, “You should spend the time to learn some magic.” She snickered. “Should you find a way to make my energy arrow more powerful, I would be glad to hear it.”
As Quitaa's figure faded to black, Shalmaneser waited to awake in the death realm. Even though he was killed, he felt at peace with what had happened. It was a duel to test honour, after all.
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As Quitaa walked up to him, Shal’s thoughts were simple and fading. ‘Mongrel cheater… to use magic… in such a duel?’
What's wrong with magic in duel? I don't think that magic ins't fair in a duel. It takes long to cast a spell and can put you in a bad position in a fight. Using potion in a duel isn't fair,the instantaneous effect isn't logical when you think IC. how can be used a potion while fighting with the hands occupied by weapons. Potions are for me a BIG BUG in this game til it heals immediately a wound.
[edit] : Oops sorry, I forgot, very well written story though
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The story isn't bad, have to say I didn't really expect you to let yourself die in it. One thing was extremely confusing to me though and that is "the statue of Talad" you keep mentioning. I'd take a good close look next time you're around Hydlaa plaza if I were you ... that statue doesn't look like Talad at all, if you ask me. :P
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I don't think using magic in a duel is cheating, and I also don't think using potions in combat is cheating. If you were dualwielding swords it would be unrealistic to use potions, but what if you're carrying one sword? Then it wouldn't be unrealistic to quickly grab a potion and heal yourself. And magic, well, energy arrows weren't invented to heal someone you know...
The story isn't bad, have to say I didn't really expect you to let yourself die in it
Zan, it really happened. Last night, just before Proglin's Tournament.
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Drahlian's reply needed its own thread, thus it has been created. Her story can be found here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23388.0).
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i think using 4 potions within 1 second is unrealistic no matter how many swords you don't wield.Sayin that magic in duels are cheating is just the bad loosers excuse imho
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What's wrong with magic in duel? I don't think that magic ins't fair in a duel. It takes long to cast a spell and can put you in a bad position in a fight.
No, because the spell can be aborted at any time. By using arrow spell, you force the other person to advance.
Using potion in a duel isn't fair,the instantaneous effect isn't logical when you think IC.
No one used any potions.
how can be used a potion while fighting with the hands occupied by weapons. Potions are for me a BIG BUG in this game til it heals immediately a wound.
No one used any potions.
[edit] : Oops sorry, I forgot, very well written story though
Thanks.
The story isn't bad, have to say I didn't really expect you to let yourself die in it. One thing was extremely confusing to me though and that is "the statue of Talad" you keep mentioning. I'd take a good close look next time you're around Hydlaa plaza if I were you ... that statue doesn't look like Talad at all, if you ask me. :P
Hmm? I've always thought that the fountain was a statue of Talad. I'll have to check next time I get in game. I guess my character made a mistake.:) Besides, the Gods in PS can take on whatever form they like. When I "met" Laanx, she looked like a fenki.
i think using 4 potions within 1 second is unrealistic no matter how many swords you don't wield.Sayin that magic in duels are cheating is just the bad loosers excuse imho
I don't think using magic in a duel is cheating, and I also don't think using potions in combat is cheating. If you were dualwielding swords it would be unrealistic to use potions, but what if you're carrying one sword? Then it wouldn't be unrealistic to quickly grab a potion and heal yourself. And magic, well, energy arrows weren't invented to heal someone you know...
Try to think of it IC, and what my character was expecting from the duel. Think about why the duel was happening, what its RP purpose was, and what the rules were and what all of that might suggest. Maybe it was a false impression, that's a legitimate assessment, but there are more overtones to it than just "It wasn't cheating and you're just bitter".
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Well okay it could be a statue of Talad taking on the form of Laanx but where is the logic in that ...
@ThomPhoenix: In that case I'd say this story belongs in the in-game roleplaying events forums, not here. I liked this as a story but I'm starting to dislike this as a means of badmouthing eachother's characters outside of the game. ::)
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Well okay it could be a statue of Talad taking on the form of Laanx but where is the logic in that ...
:P Didn't I say in my other response that my character probably made a mistake? I'll take your word for it that it's more than probably.
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Quote from: Bebel on May 05, 2006, 01:53:11 AM
Using potion in a duel isn't fair,the instantaneous effect isn't logical when you think IC.
No one used any potions.
Shalmaneser, how do you explain that your health increased from about 60 to 80% while fighting?
Maybe Quittaa casted the wrong spell and shot a life infusion arrow on you. :P
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Try to think of it IC, and what my character was expecting from the duel. Think about why the duel was happening, what its RP purpose was, and what the rules were and what all of that might suggest. Maybe it was a false impression, that's a legitimate assessment, but there are more overtones to it than just "It wasn't cheating and you're just bitter".
I was there, so I know exactly what happened. Quitaa accused you of cheating in duels because you used potions, and the she "cheated" by using magic. But! Nothing was agreed upon, there were no rules made. You just started to fight, no one said "no magic".
I do understand why you feel she cheated, but at the same time I don't think she cheated myself.
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Try to think of it IC, and what my character was expecting from the duel. Think about why the duel was happening, what its RP purpose was, and what the rules were and what all of that might suggest. Maybe it was a false impression, that's a legitimate assessment, but there are more overtones to it than just "It wasn't cheating and you're just bitter".
I was there, so I know exactly what happened. Quitaa accused you of cheating in duels because you used potions, and the she "cheated" by using magic. But! Nothing was agreed upon, there were no rules made. You just started to fight, no one said "no magic".
I do understand why you feel she cheated, but at the same time I don't think she cheated myself.
If you don't understand despite everything I've already said, then there's no way to make you.
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zanzibar, this is REALLY funny...
Guys, I didn't bother to read any replies, but whatever has or hasn't been said, I'll give you the truth. Before Proglin's tournament, Shal and Quittaa were arguing (her name is spelled with two t's, Shal), and they went to the statue of LAANX, and had a duel. She kept using magic when he got far enough, then she killed him. Then he went all the way from the Death Realm to the arena, and started calling HER a cheater. So now he's made a story about it, explaining his own point of view, which really is a load of lies. He wanted to duel, he lost, he complained.
Now, zanzibar, please stop whining over losing a duel and get on playing. You win some and lose some, simple as that.
EDIT: Just read the replies, and no one mentioned what really happened. Trust me, I was there.
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If you don't understand despite everything I've already said, then there's no way to make you.
No, you don't understand me. I do understand why from you point of view, RP reasons, etc, etc you think she cheated, but from my RP point of view, etc, etc I think she didn't cheat. Suno is pretty much right, it went like this:
- I bet Shalamaneser wouldn't win a fight without using potions
- Challenge? Let's duel at the fountain.
- <insert fighting here>
Shalmaneser was killed by Quittaa.
Later at the tournament:
Quittaa!! Where is the CHEATER!
She used magic!
(my thoughts: where during all this was there agreed no one would use magic......there wasn't)
Bottom line is you got your ass kicked, and you don't like it.
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Quick question: Thom, are you Quittaa?
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Hmm, am I the first one to say that Zanzibar is being a great "loser" in this dispute. I can clearly see how the duel was unfair in the point of view of Shalmaneser (the character), or better I can understand the fact that he believed this to be a duel of pure physical matter.
Zanzibar has every right to have Shalmaneser think that Quitaa cheated.
Edit: Now to add in a few things. You said that magic is legitimate if not stated otherwise, right? And that is different for potions, is it? You mean that while magic needs a dedicated restriction, potions need a special statement of allowance?
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Quick question: Thom, are you Quittaa?
I just almost died laughing here..
No, I am not Quittaa, why do you think??
I was just there and I have my opinion on the events, just like you. Wait, are you Quittaa, admit it!
And Cyl, about the first thing you said, that is kind of my point, but you express it better.
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Ok, ok. =X
I couldn't tell if you were Quittaa, or just expressing what you thought, since you used "I" a lot, it was confusing. =P
EDIT: And no, I'm not Quittaa, I'm Nilachi. =/
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I couldn't tell if you were Quittaa, or just expressing what you thought, since you used "I" a lot, it was confusing. =P
That was because I literally typed what was said, I'm sorry that confused you :)
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Shalmaneser, how do you explain that your health increased from about 60 to 80% while fighting?
Maybe Quittaa casted the wrong spell and shot a life infusion arrow on you. :P
60 to 80? I thought it was from 40 to 60? I did use a potion so that I could give myself time OOC to say something / yield IC, obviously it didn't work out that way.
zanzibar, this is REALLY funny...
Know what would be funny? If you could go 24 hours on this board without showing such a severe lack of maturity. Not only are you trying to start a flame war, but you're showing complete incomprehension of the themes that can be taken from what happened. It isn't about who's the most "leet".
Bottom line is you got your ass kicked, and you don't like it.
Nopers. I guess it's a good study of perspective.:)
Hmm, am I the first one to say that Zanzibar is being a great "loser" in this dispute. I can clearly see how the duel was unfair in the point of view of Shalmaneser (the character), or better I can understand the fact that he believed this to be a duel of pure physical matter.
Zanzibar has every right to have Shalmaneser think that Quitaa cheated.
Thankyou.
I think part of it is IC versus OOC, and the inability certain people have to seperate the two. OOC, Quitaa didn't cheat. IC, she did - from a certain perspective.
The thing is, if I used magic I would have won. I could pump my strength up using the might glyph. That would have increased my hit points, and also it would have made me kill pretty much anyone in a single hit. Also, I have energy arrow as opposed to just missile, so I would deal much more damage than Quita and beat her at her own game very easily. However, there were RP reasons not to do that. It's just that some people don't understand that reasoning.:)
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I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actaully its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very simular and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.
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I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actaully its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very simular and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.
It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.:)
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I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actually its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very similar and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.
It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.:)
you have every right to your opinion. we have every right to have our opinion about your opinion. also, IC: you said you agreed to blades only. which was a lie. and started shouting in the plaza that she was dishonorable without her even there to defend herself. i wold define that as cowerdes.
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I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actually its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very similar and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.
It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.:)
you have every right to your opinion. we have every right to have our opinion about your opinion. also, IC: you said you agreed to blades only. which was a lie. and started shouting in the plaza that she was dishonorable without her even there to defend herself. i wold define that as cowerdes.
You, we, they... speak for yourself and let others do the same.:)
As far as who said what and who it was said to, I did look for Quittaa after I came back to the plaza. I didn't appreciate her tone, if you know what I mean. She wasn't there, so I went to the arena. She said a few less than polite things, then went OOC in public chat telling everyone that she was adding me to her ignore list.
You weren't exactly a bundle of joy either.:)
Is there anything really left to talk about here?
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You, we, they... speak for yourself and let others do the same.:)
As far as who said what and who it was said to, I did look for Quittaa after I came back to the plaza. I didn't appreciate her tone, if you know what I mean. She wasn't there, so I went to the arena. She said a few less than polite things, then went OOC in public chat telling everyone that she was adding me to her ignore list.
You weren't exactly a bundle of joy either.:)
Is there anything really left to talk about here?
I havent forgoten Shal. [ irick dislikes you shal. and he has a vary big thing on honor. sence it was you and you where , in his eyes, wrongly acusing someone of dishonorable acts hes not exactly with you, good storry wrighting by the way]
and your account is flawed you never explaned yourself. i was there incase you have forgoten. she accused you of being dishonerable and you said "shall we settel this with a duel"[or words that effect] . you disided on the fountan with not a mention of others, she dispatched you without takeing a blow and spit on your corps
you gave no expenation, you just dueld. if you want to use an event to show a point [wich i sespect was why you posted this, its not exactly a big event] give acurate dipictions. *Irick glares at Shal for his attempted trickery*
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1. It's not trickery. It's a certain point of view, like any story is.
2. It's not an RP event. It's a story.
3. I know you have something eating you about me, because you've been consistently snarky to my character, but since we've never talked ingame or done anything together I've been completely clueless as to what it is. Have fun with that.
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1. It's not trickery. It's a certain point of view, like any story is.
yes but points of veiw in storrys shold be represented as thoughts not stated text
ie i notised a sense of snideness as i read thrugh Zanaibars's comments on me
not changeing the text of the quote
2. It's not an RP event. It's a story
it is based on a rp event. and you differed it to make your charicter look better then you are and insisting that IC magic is cheating, if i disagre thats my openeun ic ill keep it ic.
3. I know you have something eating you about me, because you've been consistently snarky to my character, but since we've never talked ingame or done anything together I've been completely clueless as to what it is. Have fun with that.
i have ic resons. i have told you them in game, you have talked to me in game, in fact you called irick a Liar and acused him of slander. i wold think you wold rememeber when you acuse some one of anything. please for future refrence keep better tabes of ic encounters. and frankly im begining to dislike you OOC
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You already dislike me. Your conduct demonstrates it. For the record, I am confused by your attitude but I do not dislike you personally. I would hope you don't give me further reason to change that.
In my mind, there is no such thing as an RP event. Everything that happens in PS is an RP event, since everything is supposed to be RP. The RP can be more organized and involve more people, it can be scheduled or spontaneous, but it is what it is.
As far as IC encounters, I try to be IC whenever I meet someone new unless they go OOC, so again I question what it means for something to be an IC encounter as oppsoed to not.
I doubt that your intention was to start a conversation on this however.
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The thing is, if I used magic I would have won. I could pump my strength up using the might glyph. That would have increased my hit points, and also it would have made me kill pretty much anyone in a single hit. Also, I have energy arrow as opposed to just missile, so I would deal much more damage than Quita and beat her at her own game very easily. However, there were RP reasons not to do that. It's just that some people don't understand that reasoning.:)
Quittaa has no arrow huh... to bad zanzibar she has and its maxed so that statement is false, ( and you already knew that so why do you pretend here differently at the forum ) also Strength is usually cast BEFORE a duel takes place, wich is unfair and cheating, if you wait with it untill AFTER the challenge is accepted then there is nothing against using it. ( My opinion, i know... )
Only you'd die trying to use it after a duel has started so you won't. Using healing potions is pretty lame aswell as the one with the most potions will always win that way ( providing that none of the participants can kill in one hit ) hence people see it as cheating. The same goes for stat improving potions. The one with the most potions will win. Eventually it will come down to the amount of cash rather then the dueling skill if you go that way.
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Owh and for the record, before you ask me. NO i'm not an alt of Quittaa :P
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There is a whole set of rules available for Proglin's tournaments, now as a normal duel doesn't specifically fit in any of the category's listed there make a mix out of it. Meaning all spells are allowed, ( unless specified otherwise ) potions are not allowed ( they give a few away but that matches out evenly ) And you are not allowed to do anything BEFORE the duel starts, read the section concerning strength and healing on that site. I think pretty much everyone finds those rules fair hence if you do something outside them it's referred to as cheating.
// SardiT
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You already dislike me. Your conduct demonstrates it. For the record, I am confused by your attitude but I do not dislike you personally. I would hope you don't give me further reason to change that.
In my mind, there is no such thing as an RP event. Everything that happens in PS is an RP event, since everything is supposed to be RP. The RP can be more organized and involve more people, it can be scheduled or spontaneous, but it is what it is.
As far as IC encounters, I try to be IC whenever I meet someone new unless they go OOC, so again I question what it means for something to be an IC encounter as oppsoed to not.
I doubt that your intention was to start a conversation on this however.
i realy hate circular logic.
yes, my intention was to comment on a storry and point out a few mistakes. you disided to involve me ferther
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Quittaa has no arrow huh... to bad zanzibar she has and its maxed so that statement is false, ( and you already knew that so why do you pretend here differently at the forum ) also Strength is usually cast BEFORE a duel takes place, wich is unfair and cheating, if you wait with it untill AFTER the challenge is accepted then there is nothing against using it. ( My opinion, i know... )
I give you permission to make sense in 2... 1... go.
Only you'd die trying to use it after a duel has started so you won't. Using healing potions is pretty lame aswell as the one with the most potions will always win that way ( providing that none of the participants can kill in one hit ) hence people see it as cheating. The same goes for stat improving potions. The one with the most potions will win. Eventually it will come down to the amount of cash rather then the dueling skill if you go that way.
You're very much wrong. The reason why people see it as "cheating" is because it's OOC. IC, you shouldn't be using potions during a fight. It's more of a RP thing than a "lame" thing.
Owh and for the record, before you ask me. NO i'm not an alt of Quittaa :P
I wasn't going to ask, because I already know who you are - a member of the dwarvesbane guild, just like Drahilan and Quittaa.
There is a whole set of rules available for Proglin's tournaments, now as a normal duel doesn't specifically fit in any of the category's listed there make a mix out of it. Meaning all spells are allowed, ( unless specified otherwise ) potions are not allowed ( they give a few away but that matches out evenly ) And you are not allowed to do anything BEFORE the duel starts, read the section concerning strength and healing on that site. I think pretty much everyone finds those rules fair hence if you do something outside them it's referred to as cheating.
This duel was not a part of any tournament. Further, his tournaments are relatively new, and my character doesn't engage in them because it would be OOC for him.
i realy hate circular logic.
yes, my intention was to comment on a storry and point out a few mistakes. you disided to involve me ferther
I've already answered this earlier in the thread, so... done now?
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zanzi said
I wasn't going to ask, because I already know who you are - a member of the dwarvesbane guild, just like Drahilan and Quittaa.
[poke]That didn't prevent you from asking drahlian ;)[/poke]
edit: typed } in the end of quotetag
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zanzi said
I wasn't going to ask, because I already know who you are - a member of the dwarvesbane guild, just like Drahilan and Quittaa.
[poke]That didn't prevent you from asking drahlian ;)[/poke]
edit: typed } in the end of quotetag
Drahlian is a bag of fun all his own. I know a bit about Sardit and didn't have any reason to think he was involved. Drahlian on the other hand I've had nothing but grief with since he decided to roleplay an out-of-character grudge. Apparently, that also means telling his guildmates to harass my character when they have the chance.
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Shalmenacer is the real victim here, and all others are trying to disturb her in her roleplay.
This is the only message i can receive from your posts. You are such a good guy, i feel sorry for you.
You pretend to spend the whole time ingame to help people against npc-keeping players or with great duels to defend dwarves or such other "good" stuff...and of course, you are the greatest roleplayer the world has ever seen.
Unfortunally what you are talking about and how you act ingame is somewhat incoherent.
Don`t you wonder why nobody here sides with you?
Somebody have to tell you the truth, so i will do it.
Here it comes: Nobody believes your stories
And i will tell you why.
*Herleva changes to a talkative mood*
I mentioned the incoherence of your talking and acting. Humans (and surely animals) have a sense for recognizing incoherence. Even when they are not mainly aware of the acting they feel that there is something wrong.
And in your case it is obvious.
Where are the dwarves you rescued from Drahlian?
Where are all the players you helped with sharing rogues?
Where are all the people who made good rp experiences with you?
Why they don`t defend you here or ingame?
Yeah, i know your answers...they don`t read the forum...they don`t play anymore...they are illiterate...bull****
You seem to have your own style of rp which main content is that all other players have to follow this style.
*Herleva swallows while using the word "style* in context to Zanzibars behaviour after the duel*
Also true is that you didn`t write this thread to let the community take part of a good ingame-roleplay.
The only reason for starting it was to disparage Quittaa.
And why disparaging her?....because she killed your char in a duel in front of about thirty spectators after YOU requested her to fight.
Sure, she provoked you, but that is part of her roleplay...provoking dwarves and kill them...and sometimes not only dwarves.
You also admitted that you lied as you said that no potions were used in this duel.
You used potions to get the opportunity for typing "/yield" ? *Herleva laughs heartly*
There are good reasons for not posting such threads, unwritten rules.
Another thing i can`t understand is: Why you can`t let a thread rest in peace after realizing that the direction it has gone is...just bad for you?
uhps...or was that news for you? sorry then...
You became so unreliable in my eyes, please spare me and others from further "Communitive Storywriting" threads.
Greetings
Herleva, Steel Commander in Dark Empire
[by the way, the first sentence is an allusion to Zanzibars wrong spelling of names and his confusedness concerning genders]
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Let's quit this picking on each other, again.
Herleva, your post was the proverbial straw to break the mod's back. To say that no one agrees with Zanzibar or appreciates his writing is to ignore a lot of the thread. If you don't want to read someone's writing, don't read it, and "spare" yourself the future trouble all on your own.
This is a warning for the thread - if it degenerates into even further mudslinging, you won't see the "Reply" button again. Feel free to argue and disagree, but do it maturely. I know we are all capable of this.
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I beg your pardon for my straightforwardness.
Herleva, Steel Commander in Dark Empire
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Shalmenacer is the real victim here, and all others are trying to disturb her in her roleplay.
Thankyou, but my character is male, and it isn't black and white like that. In all these disagreements, I'm neither completely right nor wrong, and the same goes for most other people.
This is the only message i can receive from your posts. You are such a good guy, i feel sorry for you.
You pretend to spend the whole time ingame to help people against npc-keeping players or with great duels to defend dwarves or such other "good" stuff...and of course, you are the greatest roleplayer the world has ever seen.
Unfortunally what you are talking about and how you act ingame is somewhat incoherent.
That's a pretty silly (and innacurate) thing to say.
Don`t you wonder why nobody here sides with you?
Actually, plenty of people here do side with me. We just don't make a big public deal about it (because I'm not insecure like that).
Where are the dwarves you rescued from Drahlian?
At the time, they were a little to my left.
Yeah, i know your answers...they don`t read the forum...they don`t play anymore...they are illiterate...bull****
Probably, but it's also likely that they don't have the time or patience to deal with trolling if they don't have to.
You seem to have your own style of rp which main content is that all other players have to follow this style.
Nope. I will throw a minor stink if someone tells me the tavern blew up, but I'll try to RP it anyway.
Also true is that you didn`t write this thread to let the community take part of a good ingame-roleplay.
Correct. I wrote the story because it's a story. Besides, everything that happens in-game is supposed to be roleplaying, so the tem "ingame-roleplay" is rather redundant.
Sure, she provoked you, but that is part of her roleplay...provoking dwarves and kill them...and sometimes not only dwarves.
Actually, Drahlian has bragged about telling her guild to take pot shots at my character - based on a OOC grudge no less.
You also admitted that you lied as you said that no potions were used in this duel.
If taking a single potion just before I died, when I wasn't in an offensive stance, and when I thought I was standing far away... if that counts as using potions in a duel? Oh geeze, you sure got me!
There are good reasons for not posting such threads, unwritten rules.
And there are good reasons for not being a dick like you're being presently.:) Only those rules are written.
[by the way, the first sentence is an allusion to Zanzibars wrong spelling of names and his confusedness concerning genders]
Your entire post is OOC, so brackets are not necessary.
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*Herleva resignates and prefers to argue with her 5 and 7 years old nephews*
I`m searching for arguments in your last post, but i can`t find them.
It is more fun to have some in an argument.
Maybe i will join again when you can present at least few.
It`s just frustrating to read your answers, they underline your lack of competence.
It`s like talking with a stubborn teenager, proud and not willing or capable to express themself.
Herleva
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I`m searching for arguments in your last post, but i can`t find them.
Good! You'll be in good company with your cousins, and the forums will be that much more peaceful!
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there is something i don't understand here, why does shalmaneser protect some dwarves when he belongs to an evil guild and are evil. And afaik (correct me if i am wrong.) There are no dwarves in the DE, so that makes the whole shalmaneser rescuing dwarves thing being quite weird in my eyes.
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I think the DE is slightly misunderstood at times. Take a look at Sangwa - he doesn't go around murdering people all the time and can actually be extraordinarily helpful. Being "evil" doesn't mean one has to be obvious or blunt about it.
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there is something i don't understand here, why does shalmaneser protect some dwarves when he belongs to an evil guild and are evil. And afaik (correct me if i am wrong.) There are no dwarves in the DE, so that makes the whole shalmaneser rescuing dwarves thing being quite weird in my eyes.
Well, the Dark Empire isn't really evil. "Good" and "Evil" don't really exist except to an audience with shared definitions. So while the agenda of the Dark Empire might be called "evil" by some, to call the entire guild "evil" is not necessarily true. Basically, it depends on who you ask.
There's no particular reason why there are no dwarves in the Dark Empire guild. It's a relatively exclusive guild, so we don't have equal representation from each race - just by chance.
As far as my character being evil, again - it depends on who you ask. Further, if a character is "evil", it doesn't mean it just goes PVP all the time and shouts bad things. Just like how "Good" characters can be prone to doing wicked things, or being spiteful, or insulting others, or being evil.:)
Basically, things are more complex than "good and evil", and I can understand why the actions of that particular character I roleplay can be confusing if you just think of him as evil and don't spend much time with him.
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i never met shal/shalmaneser in game, but oocly we can say if he is good or evil, that is your descision, i don't think it takes much of a brain to figure out my characters alignment ;)
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i never met shal/shalmaneser in game, but oocly we can say if he is good or evil, that is your descision, i don't think it takes much of a brain to figure out my characters alignment ;)
It takes barely any brain at all to judge. (I find that dumber people are more judgemental, so it follows that they're just better at it.)
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This discussion serves no point. This doesn't concern most of you, and I think you're just getting back at Zanzibar (not that he doesn't deserve it).
Quitta doesn't seem concerned at all, so we should follow her example and turn an OOC pit of flames into nothingness, as it seems to have failed its purposed as a Communitive Storywritting.
Discussing your opinions about RP happenings makes no sense. In fact, it's like discussing Alice in Wonderland and how she shouldn't or should have followed the bunny.
I like the story though. I mean Shal's. Not that I dislike Alice in Wonderland, no, that was a far greater story in fact.
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This discussion serves no point. This doesn't concern most of you, and I think you're just getting back at Zanzibar (not that he doesn't deserve it).
Quitta doesn't seem concerned at all, so we should follow her example and turn an OOC pit of flames into nothingness, as it seems to have failed its purposed as a Communitive Storywritting.
Discussing your opinions about RP happenings makes no sense. In fact, it's like discussing Alice in Wonderland and how she shouldn't or should have followed the bunny.
I like the story though. I mean Shal's. Not that I dislike Alice in Wonderland, no, that was a far greater story in fact.
I disagree. I think a few interesting discussions have come from it. While certain individuals have used it as an opportunity to troll, I can hardly be held accountable for how others here choose to behave.
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zanzibar, I'm not going to try and fight with you, but...you started this post by trolling. The story wasn't done in first-person, meaning that this is you, not Shal, you're telling it, not your character, it's your view, not his. So in other words, you're trolling, because you made this post with many complaints about how Quittaa beat you. Everyone else is just criticizing you for it.
Now, I'm not posting in this thread anymore, for a few reasons I won't say.
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zanzibar, I'm not going to try and fight with you, but...you started this post by trolling. The story wasn't done in first-person, meaning that this is you, not Shal, you're telling it, not your character, it's your view, not his. So in other words, you're trolling, because you made this post with many complaints about how Quittaa beat you. Everyone else is just criticizing you for it.
Now, I'm not posting in this thread anymore, for a few reasons I won't say.
I'm trolling because I wrote the story in 3rd person instead of 1st person? That's pretty weak, even for your usual.
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Giving a character's name as tittle without permission is trolling.
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I see we have nothing else constructive to say.
Please PM me if you have further issues.