Quitaa

[Cyl]

Hmm, am I the first one to say that Zanzibar is being a great "loser" in this dispute. I can clearly see how the duel was unfair in the point of view of Shalmaneser (the character), or better I can understand the fact that he believed this to be a duel of pure physical matter.

Zanzibar has every right to have Shalmaneser think that Quitaa cheated.

Edit: Now to add in a few things. You said that magic is legitimate if not stated otherwise, right? And that is different for potions, is it? You mean that while magic needs a dedicated restriction, potions need a special statement of allowance?

[ThomPhoenix]

Quick question: Thom, are you Quittaa?

I just almost died laughing here..
No, I am not Quittaa, why do you think??

I was just there and I have my opinion on the events, just like you. Wait, are you Quittaa, admit it!

And Cyl, about the first thing you said, that is kind of my point, but you express it better.

[Suno_Regin]

Ok, ok. =X

I couldn't tell if you were Quittaa, or just expressing what you thought, since you used "I" a lot, it was confusing. =P

EDIT: And no, I'm not Quittaa, I'm Nilachi. =/

[ThomPhoenix]

I couldn't tell if you were Quittaa, or just expressing what you thought, since you used "I" a lot, it was confusing. =P

That was because I literally typed what was said, I'm sorry that confused you

[zanzibar]

Shalmaneser, how do you explain that your health increased from about 60 to 80% while fighting?
Maybe Quittaa casted the wrong spell and shot a life infusion arrow on you.

60 to 80?  I thought it was from 40 to 60?  I did use a potion so that I could give myself time OOC to say something / yield IC, obviously it didn't work out that way.

zanzibar, this is REALLY funny...

Know what would be funny?  If you could go 24 hours on this board without showing such a severe lack of maturity.  Not only are you trying to start a flame war, but you're showing complete incomprehension of the themes that can be taken from what happened.  It isn't about who's the most "leet".

Bottom line is you got your ass kicked, and you don't like it.

Nopers.  I guess it's a good study of perspective.

Hmm, am I the first one to say that Zanzibar is being a great "loser" in this dispute. I can clearly see how the duel was unfair in the point of view of Shalmaneser (the character), or better I can understand the fact that he believed this to be a duel of pure physical matter.

Zanzibar has every right to have Shalmaneser think that Quitaa cheated.

Thankyou.

I think part of it is IC versus OOC, and the inability certain people have to seperate the two.  OOC, Quitaa didn't cheat.  IC, she did - from a certain perspective.

The thing is, if I used magic I would have won.  I could pump my strength up using the might glyph.  That would have increased my hit points, and also it would have made me kill pretty much anyone in a single hit.  Also, I have energy arrow as opposed to just missile, so I would deal much more damage than Quita and beat her at her own game very easily.  However, there were RP reasons not to do that.  It's just that some people don't understand that reasoning.

[Lilie]

I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actaully its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very simular and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.

[zanzibar]

I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actaully its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very simular and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.

It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.

[Irick]

I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actually its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very similar and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.

It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.

you have every right to your opinion. we have every right to have our opinion about your opinion. also, IC: you said you agreed to blades only. which was a lie. and started shouting in the plaza that she was dishonorable without her even there to defend herself. i wold define that as cowerdes.

[zanzibar]

I agree with Zanzibar. OOC it was not cheating, but IC it would be, actually its Less cheating and more Cheap in my eyes. They are very similar and often get mistaken for one another. Cheating is giving somone an advantage the other person does not have, which Shalmaneser could have used magic but decided not too. Cheap is what were looking at here. So actaully Zanzibar would be wrong here unless he decides to change what he meant because he had the same advantage as she did but he didn't use it, so its not cheating, sorry Zanzibar.

It's cheating from a certain point of view, and any story is about a certain point of view.

you have every right to your opinion. we have every right to have our opinion about your opinion. also, IC: you said you agreed to blades only. which was a lie. and started shouting in the plaza that she was dishonorable without her even there to defend herself. i wold define that as cowerdes.

You, we, they... speak for yourself and let others do the same.

As far as who said what and who it was said to, I did look for Quittaa after I came back to the plaza.  I didn't appreciate her tone, if you know what I mean.  She wasn't there, so I went to the arena.  She said a few less than polite things, then went OOC in public chat telling everyone that she was adding me to her ignore list.

You weren't exactly a bundle of joy either.



Is there anything really left to talk about here?

[Irick]

You, we, they... speak for yourself and let others do the same.

As far as who said what and who it was said to, I did look for Quittaa after I came back to the plaza.  I didn't appreciate her tone, if you know what I mean.  She wasn't there, so I went to the arena.  She said a few less than polite things, then went OOC in public chat telling everyone that she was adding me to her ignore list.

You weren't exactly a bundle of joy either.:)



Is there anything really left to talk about here?

I havent forgoten Shal.  [ irick dislikes you shal. and he has a vary big thing on honor. sence it was you and you where , in his eyes, wrongly acusing someone of dishonorable acts hes not exactly with you, good storry wrighting by the way]
and your account is flawed you never explaned yourself. i was there incase you have forgoten. she accused you of being dishonerable and you said "shall we settel this with a duel"[or words that effect] . you disided on the fountan with not a mention of others, she dispatched you without takeing a blow and spit on your corps
you gave no expenation, you just dueld. if you want to use an event to show a point [wich i sespect was why you posted this, its not exactly a big event] give acurate dipictions. *Irick glares at Shal for his attempted trickery*

[zanzibar]

1. It's not trickery.  It's a certain point of view, like any story is.

2. It's not an RP event.  It's a story.

3. I know you have something eating you about me, because you've been consistently snarky to my character, but since we've never talked ingame or done anything together I've been completely clueless as to what it is.  Have fun with that.

[Irick]

1. It's not trickery.  It's a certain point of view, like any story is.

yes but points of veiw in storrys shold be represented as thoughts not stated text
ie i notised a sense of snideness as i read thrugh Zanaibars's comments on me
not changeing the text of the quote

2. It's not an RP event.  It's a story

it is based on a rp event. and you differed it to make your charicter look better then you are and insisting that IC magic is cheating, if i disagre thats my openeun ic ill keep it ic.

3. I know you have something eating you about me, because you've been consistently snarky to my character, but since we've never talked ingame or done anything together I've been completely clueless as to what it is.  Have fun with that.

i have ic resons. i have told you them in game, you have talked to me in game, in fact you called irick a Liar and acused him of slander. i wold think you wold rememeber when you acuse some one of anything. please for future refrence keep better tabes of ic encounters. and frankly im begining to dislike you OOC

[zanzibar]

You already dislike me.  Your conduct demonstrates it.  For the record, I am confused by your attitude but I do not dislike you personally.  I would hope you don't give me further reason to change that.

In my mind, there is no such thing as an RP event.  Everything that happens in PS is an RP event, since everything is supposed to be RP.  The RP can be more organized and involve more people, it can be scheduled or spontaneous, but it is what it is.

As far as IC encounters, I try to be IC whenever I meet someone new unless they go OOC, so again I question what it means for something to be an IC encounter as oppsoed to not.

I doubt that your intention was to start a conversation on this however.

[sardit]

The thing is, if I used magic I would have won.  I could pump my strength up using the might glyph.  That would have increased my hit points, and also it would have made me kill pretty much anyone in a single hit.  Also, I have energy arrow as opposed to just missile, so I would deal much more damage than Quita and beat her at her own game very easily.  However, there were RP reasons not to do that.  It's just that some people don't understand that reasoning.

Quittaa has no arrow huh... to bad zanzibar she has and its maxed so that statement is false, ( and you already knew that so why do you pretend here differently at the forum ) also Strength is usually cast BEFORE a duel takes place, wich is unfair and cheating, if you wait with it untill AFTER the challenge is accepted then there is nothing against using it. ( My opinion, i know... )
Only you'd die trying to use it after a duel has started so you won't. Using healing potions is pretty lame aswell as the one with the most potions will always win that way ( providing that none of the participants can kill in one hit ) hence people see it as cheating. The same goes for stat improving potions. The one with the most potions will win. Eventually it will come down to the amount of cash rather then the dueling skill if you go that way.

=edit=
Owh and for the record, before you ask me. NO i'm not an alt of Quittaa

==edit==
There is a whole set of rules available for Proglin's tournaments, now as a normal duel doesn't specifically fit in any of the category's listed there make a mix out of it. Meaning all spells are allowed, ( unless specified otherwise ) potions are not allowed ( they give a few away but that matches out evenly ) And you are not allowed to do anything BEFORE the duel starts, read the section concerning strength and healing on that site. I think pretty much everyone finds those rules fair hence if you do something outside them it's referred to as cheating.

// SardiT

[Irick]

You already dislike me.  Your conduct demonstrates it.  For the record, I am confused by your attitude but I do not dislike you personally.  I would hope you don't give me further reason to change that.

In my mind, there is no such thing as an RP event.  Everything that happens in PS is an RP event, since everything is supposed to be RP.  The RP can be more organized and involve more people, it can be scheduled or spontaneous, but it is what it is.

As far as IC encounters, I try to be IC whenever I meet someone new unless they go OOC, so again I question what it means for something to be an IC encounter as oppsoed to not.

I doubt that your intention was to start a conversation on this however.

i realy hate circular logic.
yes, my intention was to comment on a storry and point out a few mistakes. you disided to involve me ferther