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Support => Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game => Topic started by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 01:04:02 pm

Title: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 01:04:02 pm: I made up my character in an honest way and you deleted it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I trained it for a long time and you know that's very boring. I won't do that again. I want my character back with all my points and objects or I won't play again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Siofra on July 12, 2006, 01:06:52 pm: /me puts all the toys back in Drakonicos cot.

You are not the only one who has a well trained character deleted. Move on, make a new one and enjoy yourself. It isn't all about training either...
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Mortan Kalimdor on July 12, 2006, 01:07:40 pm: i think you trained your char during the period with Experience points bugs, so you got it unfair fastly trained...thats why your char (and many others btw) has been deleted...

cool down, take some minutes and get back with a new char. many of us have to do so, too.
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 01:14:05 pm: if i want talk or do something different from fightin, earning money and gain exp points i should not play a roleplaying game!!!!!!i'd do any other thing such as talking in a chat or in a simple forum!!!!!!sorry but i must say that u don't know the real meaning of an RPG....... >:(So i want back all my stats or i'll play in another game called LINEAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D because it's a more serious game where i won't waste my time doing the same thing( a very long thing, i.e. training and advancing character) for 2 times!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Goldir on July 12, 2006, 01:19:29 pm: Dont know the meaning of an RPG??? The key words here are ROLE PLAYING Game. Not monster whacking. Not Training. Not power leveling. The Definition of role playing according to Merriam Webster is as follows:

Main Entry: role-play
Pronunciation: 'rOl-"plA, -'plA
Function: verb
transitive verb
1 : to act out the role of <role-play a shy person>
2 : to represent in action <students were asked to role-play the thoughts and feelings of each character -- R. G. Lambert>
intransitive verb : to play a role

I don't see anything in there about training or gaining levels.

ahh well, you can lead a horse to water...
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Zan on July 12, 2006, 01:20:49 pm: Goodbye!
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: narita on July 12, 2006, 01:24:49 pm: Quote from: Goldir on July 12, 2006, 01:19:29 pm
I don't see anything in there about training or gaining levels.
What's the point to destroy the characters if leveling is meaningless, then?
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 01:28:43 pm: please don't try to teach me the meaning of RPG, i know it much better than you
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Ganinos on July 12, 2006, 01:53:16 pm: Talad Said:
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After the last update we faced a very bad bug. Basically all newly created chars had the ability to train at no cost. This resulted in people with 150 in sword after 20 minutes of play.

Today we deleted all characters created after 2006-07-04 (yyyy-mm-dd) to fix that issue. Sorry but was necessary to be fair with other older chars.

If you started your character after the 4th, which it looks as if you did, then the above is the reason why. People where not supposed to be able to train skills that quickly. Far from it, it is supposed to take a very long time to train your skills. This game is also only in the alpha stage of developement. The devs have stated repeatedly that wipes are to bet expected. We, the players, are the testers of this game for the devs. Because of the above bug, the devs chose to delete only the characters that could have used this bug. Their only other option would have been to delete (wipe) all the characters. But since only new characters had access to this bug, they selected an option to delete only those characters. IMHO, a wise move on their part. I have been though a total character wipe before & we most likely go though another one in the future. I know this is only an alpha game & I expect wipes to happen.

As far as your opinion that one particular game is more serious than another is just that, your opinion. Other people have different opinions. People have different gaming styles & enjoy different types & styles of play. To say that one is better than the other as if that is a fact for everyone astounds me.

Making demands here or in RL generally is not a good idea. A better approach would be to try to find out & understand why something happened. Who knows you may find out that you agree with it. Anyway that is my opinion. If you have a job, try walking into your bosses office tomorrow a demand a pay raise or you will quit. My guess is your boss would say, "I hope you find a new job soon".

Gan, "Long Beard"
Leader White Dragon Clan
Dragon High Master of the Dragon Council
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: neko kyouran on July 12, 2006, 01:56:29 pm: All I'll say is welcome to the world of Alpha testing. You don't like the fact that your charcter got wiped? Go play a game that is finished. You were warned before you began playing the game, that PS is not complete. You were also warned that during developement, wipes will happen. You are tester first, player second around here. That's just how these things are. If you really can't stand to have your character deleted, then in the words of a certain forum mod, "Have a nice day, somewhere else."
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 02:12:02 pm: Thanks for your "sympathy". however.as you said, because i've a job I can't waste my time playing a RPG since it's not that my work. PS should be only a game, a relaxing hobby to spend my spare time. Sorry but that's "my opinion" and i'm sure that many people share my opinion. I said that because i really enjoyed the game and i started playing in an honest way, though i didn't know many things about the game... but i don't like your behaviour..sorry but that's "my opinion". About work... i advise you to dismiss that "intelligent and witty" guy who analyzed the acronym RPG......what a clever guy!
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Drakonico on July 12, 2006, 02:12:43 pm: That's my last OPINION about you.bye
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Ganinos on July 12, 2006, 02:27:02 pm: Wow, eventhough you made a demanding post. Rude by anyones standards. I still tried to explain to you why things happened in a firendly way & even tried to give you some advise, again in a friendly way without trying to flame you. I didn't insult you, I didn't call you names, and now you say you don't like my behavior? Sir, I suggest you look in a mirrior an examine your own behavior before you start complaining about others.

Gan, "Long Beard"
Leader White Dragon Clan
Dragon High Master of the Dragon Council
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: Cyl on July 12, 2006, 03:04:30 pm: A typical case of e-berserk....

It's his decision if he does not want to participate in an alpha test. The developers had their valid reasons for wiping character since the 4th, and it is not their nor our responsibilty to symphatize with people who cannot put up with the fact that an open pre alpha is not a finished game, and by the gods it is not our responsibility to care wether or not he goes off to play Lineage. I dont see how his contribution to the Planeshift Community would have made any real difference, anyways.
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: scathlar on July 12, 2006, 03:50:11 pm: Heyyyyyy .. I went in and demanded that my boss give me a raise or I would quit .. funny .. he gave me one :) Too bad Ill be leaving for a new job soon anyone .. although he doesnt know it yet :)

Anyway .. my two cents worth .. love the game .. keep up the great work! and while I dont mind a wipe .. never been through one yet .. do our stats/items get wiped? or the entire character? would like to at least keep my name :)

Scathlar cheers for no more frequent crashing
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: hook on July 12, 2006, 04:02:29 pm: Quote from: scathlar on July 12, 2006, 03:50:11 pm
Heyyyyyy .. I went in and demanded that my boss give me a raise or I would quit .. funny .. he gave me one :) Too bad Ill be leaving for a new job soon anyone .. although he doesnt know it yet :)
you lucky dog :lol:

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Anyway .. my two cents worth .. love the game .. keep up the great work! and while I dont mind a wipe .. never been through one yet .. do our stats/items get wiped? or the entire character? would like to at least keep my name :)
The whole character gets wiped, but you can (=it's not automatic!) reserve your char's name though.

At least that's how it went when I was present...
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: spyke01 on July 12, 2006, 04:21:26 pm: :@#\ childish crap like this really makes me angry, i love the RPG genre, and ive played many styles from board to pc to pen and paper, and PS is by far the best of all. The people are more friendly and giving than most you will find anywhere else, this is a place to have fun and make friends, and enjoy a game that most companies would charge you $35/month for.

I too had a character that i spent days working on, i too got my character deleted, we have been warned, and it will happen again, get over, build a better character and move on. You can actually visit the arena now without the game crashing, so thats something to look foreward to, so stop whining make a character and have fun.
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
Post by: DaveG on July 12, 2006, 04:55:15 pm: Drakonico: The missunderstanding here is not the RP but the G. This isn't a finished game; don't pretend it is. A giant bug caused every new character to out-advance the maximums... Of course we're going to wipe them. It'd be insane not to. Please don't whine like a 2 year old here.
Title: Re: I WON'T PLAY
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