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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: miadon on July 14, 2006, 10:44:13 pm

Title: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: miadon on July 14, 2006, 10:44:13 pm
Ok talking to zorbels, then we both realised OOC we had no idea where or how smoke left the cavern. IE smoke from chimey fires, furnaces etc. Only thing I can think of is there are some small tunnels at the top which let smoke escape, otherwise the top of the cavern would fill with smoke all the time, so where do you think all the smoke goes?
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Xordan on July 14, 2006, 11:23:39 pm
Maybe it rises and get destroyed when it gets close to the crystal? :)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: VMann on July 15, 2006, 12:00:21 am
Or it does the same it would also do at the surface: Fall down somewhen
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Pestilence on July 15, 2006, 12:20:27 am
Small fires the smoke will probably be scattered by the wind just as it does in here as I asume there are winds and in cities like Hydlaa where perhaps there is to much smoke to all be scattered the cavernroof might be blackened although the wind might still spread it to much to be noticable by the eye.

Would be my thought really.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: miadon on July 15, 2006, 12:49:47 am
yes smoke from small fires wont go far, but bigger fires will, which then asks surely level 1 will be getting alot of dirty air from lower levels and same for those levels, and then the levels submerged in water will surely be getting alot of soot.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: hook on July 15, 2006, 01:47:55 am
erm ...same way as fresh air comes in?
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Alfonso Knaf on July 15, 2006, 01:57:30 am
It does not really need to come fresh air in... the stalaktit is big enough... but the smoke can indeed escape through the many little holes I think
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: miadon on July 15, 2006, 02:03:23 am
Even if it does escape through tiny tunnels, holes, etc. There is still the question of higher levels having dirty air from lower levels. eg Level 2's smoke rising to level 1 which would make level 1's air not very nice to breath.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on July 15, 2006, 02:18:03 am
If you visit Yliakum city,
You will find it very pretty,
Just two things of which you must beware:
Don't drink the water and don't breathe the air.

Pollution, pollution,
they got smog and sewage and mud.
Turn on your tap,
and get hot and cold running crud.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Alfonso Knaf on July 15, 2006, 02:19:28 am
Maybe, may also be that up there the winds are stronger, or the influence of the great crystal cleans the air, as mentioned before. As I like the idea of a poluted higher area, the people there won't :-)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: zorbels on July 15, 2006, 02:21:21 am
Maybe it rises and get destroyed when it gets close to the crystal? :)

That might work, maybe the crystal somehow makes the air pure again?  ??? I don't know, it's got me stumped.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Drey on July 15, 2006, 02:30:57 am
Ok talking to zorbels, then we both realised OOC we had no idea where or how smoke left the cavern. IE smoke from chimey fires, furnaces etc. Only thing I can think of is there are some small tunnels at the top which let smoke escape, otherwise the top of the cavern would fill with smoke all the time, so where do you think all the smoke goes?


Translation: It dissipates after floating around for a bit.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: The Wandering Djinn on July 15, 2006, 04:08:25 am
If you visit Yliakum city,
You will find it very pretty,
Just two things of which you must beware:
Don't drink the water and don't breathe the air.

Pollution, pollution,
they got smog and sewage and mud.
Turn on your tap,
and get hot and cold running crud.


[Off Topic] - Well it's been quite sometime since I last saw a quote from Tom Lehrer! :)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Denerynn on July 15, 2006, 06:03:11 am
I bet it IS the crystal. Think about it. We don't know much about it, only that getting too close means being disintegrated. That must mean that even smoke must get disintegrated by it. Also, according to the history of Yliakum, Laanx studied the power of the crystal, and used it to create a race, the Lemur I believe. Talad then used it to create one of his own... and make Laanx too ugly for words... This means that the crystal possesses some magical properties, very powerful ones as well.

Finally, theres one more factor we haven't considered: Talad. If he watches over Yliakum, then surely he must do something about it...
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Zan on July 15, 2006, 08:38:50 am
*waits for ash storms, built up from all the smoke in the atmosphere, to hit Hydlaa*

(deja vu, anyone? :P)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: LigH on July 15, 2006, 10:27:20 am
IMHO: There is rain. - Need to explain more? ;)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: ramlambmoo on July 15, 2006, 12:45:48 pm
Quote
Ok talking to zorbels, then we both realised OOC we had no idea where or how smoke left the cavern. IE smoke from chimey fires, furnaces etc. Only thing I can think of is there are some small tunnels at the top which let smoke escape, otherwise the top of the cavern would fill with smoke all the time, so where do you think all the smoke goes?

It dissapates into the atmosphere as carbon and is then taken in by plants to use for photosynthesis, just like in real life.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: DaveG on July 15, 2006, 04:53:53 pm
Where does the smoke go when it leaves your chimney?  It goes up into the air and comes back down in rain or just eventually settles.  The cavern is a fully self-contained system, and the same rules apply.  Nothing special happens.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Nikodemus on July 15, 2006, 06:35:43 pm
I bet it IS the crystal. Think about it. We don't know much about it, only that getting too close means being disintegrated. That must mean that even smoke must get disintegrated by it.
Ok, its the quote which i chosen as the most sesnsless of the whole thread ;P
So you are basicaly saying that when the molecule approaches crystal, it disappears? But you want only the CO2 and other waste to do so... What about Nitrogen? :P And more imortant, what about molecules of O2 ? :P I bet they disappear too !!
But what do we breath after that?
Furher, why won't the rock around crystal won't disappear too? :D
What would stop it from making the whole planet to disappear? :o
But after all this we would have evil space crystal travelling through the space and looking for other worlds to disappear \o/

On other topic. CO2 is heavier than O2 so its the bottom leavels who would be pretty sc****.

And i believe its the photosynthesis and rain which make the air breathable.
photosynthesis for CO2 and rain for dissolved in air residues.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Alfonso Knaf on July 15, 2006, 06:41:11 pm
*cough* Who said there is a principle of molecules/atoms/even our understanding of physics in the PS world?
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: LARAGORN on July 15, 2006, 06:43:05 pm
I bet it IS the crystal. Think about it. We don't know much about it, only that getting too close means being disintegrated. That must mean that even smoke must get disintegrated by it.
Ok, its the quote which i chosen as the most sesnsless of the whole thread ;P
So you are basicaly saying that when the molecule approaches crystal, it disappears? But you want only the CO2 and other waste to do so... What about Nitrogen? :P And more imortant, what about molecules of O2 ? :P I bet they disappear too !!
But what do we breath after that?
Furher, why won't the rock around crystal won't disappear too? :D
What would stop it from making the whole planet to disappear? :o
But after all this we would have evil space crystal travelling through the space and looking for other worlds to disappear \o/

On other topic. CO2 is heavier than O2 so its the bottom leavels who would be pretty sc****.

And i believe its the photosynthesis and rain which make the air breathable.
photosynthesis for CO2 and rain for dissolved in air residues.

Interesting points.....but....whos to say all things are the same in the world of PS.
Are we sure that PS has all the exact same ellements as the real world ?

Edit: Alfonso beat me to it :( but i posted anyway :p
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Alfonso Knaf on July 15, 2006, 06:52:13 pm
Sorry for going OffTopic... but hey, there are in fact gods, so matter can in fact simply be... maybe the same principles apply to some things in the PS world as in the real world, but I only want to say, do not let your imagination be limited by such boring things as physics  ;)
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Jwack on July 15, 2006, 10:53:24 pm
so the fact that the bricks and fire and grass and most things in game look exactly the same as the real world is complete coinsedence even though everything is made out of different stuff?
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Delsabor Nash on July 16, 2006, 04:01:44 am
Hmmm, i figure out of small air pockets in the stalagtite, because of the natural formation of the rock. That, your something with the Azure Crystal. I dont figure the explaination it could be too hard to explain.
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Peacer on July 16, 2006, 01:20:35 pm
yeah, the crystal eats it :P... if you touch the crystal it burns you up and suck the energy out of you
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: DaveG on July 16, 2006, 04:50:46 pm
*cough* Who said there is a principle of molecules/atoms/even our understanding of physics in the PS world?
The concept of an atom is older than the time period the world is comperable to.  I don't think it'd be likely to be too well known, however, and it's obviously missing large portions of knowledge.  That being said, this is quite a bit of over-analyzing.  Don't rack your brain trying to figure out where the smoke goes... it's spawning out of nothing.  We don't even know where it's coming from most of the time.  :P
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: dfryer on July 17, 2006, 02:21:19 am
It comes out of my computer when I try to run PlaneShift!
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: Ahriman on July 17, 2006, 07:08:39 pm
OMFG, that is the funiest post i've seen in these forums by far!!! XD Look at this! I'm cry-laughing!  :'(
Title: Re: Where does all the smoke go?
Post by: DaveG on July 23, 2006, 01:56:13 am
How are you correcting me?  o.O

I said the concept of the atom is older than the stuff we're using.  You said no, it's not, it's from ancient Greece... the "older" thing I was reffering to.  Unless some weird time travel is involved, you're saying the exact same thing I was.

My god... this weirdo can argue without squat...

Ok, time for an off-topic lock.


Where does all the smoke go?
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